How about them Canucks!

JLM

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....If you don't take into account their rosters maybe. Only a fool would say that the Wings and the Leaves have an equal chance at the cup.

Perhaps you missed the words I was careful to include - "statistically speaking".

Are "the Leaves" the Leaf's farm team?
 

talloola

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Didn't the Canucks miss the playoffs in 2008?

I think they missed the playoffs 2007/08 last year naslund was on the team.
I've been trying to find 'where' to look thru the history of how they finished, can't
find it, maybe someone else knows. It seems all of the stats on the canuck site are just
for individuals, correct me if i'm wrong please, because I want to know where those stats are.

Perhaps you missed the words I was careful to include - "statistically speaking".

Are "the Leaves" the Leaf's farm team?

I think it's short for 'leftovers'. lol
 

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There are lots of positive things about the Vancouver Canucks right now:

They are on a six game winning streak. They have the league's best powerplay. Most of the team is healthy and the team has more depth than it has had in years. I understand Tambelini is on wavers. If we don't need Tambelini we must be in pretty good shape.
 

JLM

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I think they missed the playoffs 2007/08 last year naslund was on the team.
I've been trying to find 'where' to look thru the history of how they finished, can't
find it, maybe someone else knows. It seems all of the stats on the canuck site are just
for individuals, correct me if i'm wrong please, because I want to know where those stats are.

Yep, I'm pretty sure in 06/07 they got knocked out in the 2nd round after edging Dallas in the first round in 7 games.
 

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If we don't need Tambelini we must be in pretty good shape.

Actually, it appears you need him on your top line. I guess his 20 goal and 29 assist in his 7 year NHL career makes him an attractive player for the top line......yup...those 'nucks sure are deep
 

JLM

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Actually, it appears you need him on your top line. I guess his 20 goal and 29 assist in his 7 year NHL career makes him an attractive player for the top line......yup...those 'nucks sure are deep

Just deep enough to beat the sh*t out of any team from Alberta. :lol:
 

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I think they missed the playoffs 2007/08 last year naslund was on the team.
I've been trying to find 'where' to look thru the history of how they finished, can't
find it, maybe someone else knows. It seems all of the stats on the canuck site are just
for individuals, correct me if i'm wrong please, because I want to know where those stats are.



I think it's short for 'leftovers'. lol
Probably at wikipedia.
 

Cannuck

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Just deep enough to beat the sh*t out of any team from Alberta. :lol:

Do you think that, because I live in Alberta, I'm a fan of Alberta teams? That's the only reason I can think of for such a silly comment.

News flash....beating the Flames or the Oilers means nothing. They are two of the weaker teams in the league and that is why the 'nucks will finish higher than they should. I'm sure every other team in the league would love to have Vancouver's luck and get to play Calgary and Edmonton a dozen times.

Winning the cup requires Vancouver to beat more than Edmonton and Calgary. As I've said, they are only 500 against teams that are better than 500....not a particularly impressive stat.
 
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JLM

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Do you think that, because I live in Alberta, I'm a fan of Alberta teams? That's the only reason I can think of for such a silly comment.

News flash....beating the Flames or the Oilers means nothing. They are two of the weaker teams in the league and that is why the 'nucks will finish higher than they should. I'm sure every other team in the league would love to have Vancouver's luck and get to play Calgary and Edmonton a dozen times.

Winning the cup requires Vancouver to beat more than Edmonton and Calgary. As I've said, they are only 500 against teams that are better than 500....not a particularly impressive stat.

They get to play Toronto, N.J. and the Islanders a dozen times, what's the difference?
 

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different divisions change from time to time and become stronger or weaker, depending on
performance from season to season, up until last season the north west division was
probably the strongest in the league, according to how competetive they were within
their division against each other, none of them either went to the finals or won the cup, recently.

Pittsburg won the stanely cup after having not played in a strong division

detroit won the stanley cup before that having not played in a strong division

doesn't matter much after the dust settles. those stats change and different
teams win divisions because of it, just the way it goes for everyone.

it is an interesting comment, but doesn't mean much, other than the strongest team in the
division will probably win 'that' division, and it ends there.
 

JLM

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different divisions change from time to time and become stronger or weaker, depending on
performance from season to season, up until last season the north west division was
probably the strongest in the league, according to how competetive they were within
their division against each other, none of them either went to the finals or won the cup, recently.

Pittsburg won the stanely cup after having not played in a strong division

detroit won the stanley cup before that having not played in a strong division

doesn't matter much after the dust settles. those stats change and different
teams win divisions because of it, just the way it goes for everyone.

it is an interesting comment, but doesn't mean much, other than the strongest team in the
division will probably win 'that' division, and it ends there.

As usual you are absolutely correct. Minnesota is a good example of change of strength, you never know at the start of a season what they are going to be like. Look at Philly just a year or two ago and New Jersey at the other extreme. St. Louis is another perfect example just a year or so ago right at the bottom of the league, Phoenix has gone from a nobody (since Gretzky left) to a power house. There is a lot more to winning the Stanley Cup than being the best team, including schedules, injuries, lucky breaks, unlucky breaks for the opponents, the goal tender's mood.
 

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Do you think that, because I live in Alberta, I'm a fan of Alberta teams? That's the only reason I can think of for such a silly comment.

News flash....beating the Flames or the Oilers means nothing. They are two of the weaker teams in the league and that is why the 'nucks will finish higher than they should. I'm sure every other team in the league would love to have Vancouver's luck and get to play Calgary and Edmonton a dozen times.

Winning the cup requires Vancouver to beat more than Edmonton and Calgary. As I've said, they are only 500 against teams that are better than 500....not a particularly impressive stat.

Cannuck you came on this topic with a bee up your bloomers like you usually do. Negative comments and trolling seem to be your fort. The forums are not a competition and you don't win if you get in the last sarcastic reply.
 

talloola

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Cannuck you came on this topic with a bee up your bloomers like you usually do. Negative comments and trolling seem to be your fort. The forums are not a competition and you don't win if you get in the last sarcastic reply.

you read my mind juan, as it seemed just like that. it goes from constructive comments and staying
on subject to sarcastic one liners, that some feel gives them the one upa on the other. not so.
 

JLM

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Cannuck you came on this topic with a bee up your bloomers like you usually do. Negative comments and trolling seem to be your fort. The forums are not a competition and you don't win if you get in the last sarcastic reply.

Weird, #Juan- you read my mind exactly.
 

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They get to play Toronto, N.J. and the Islanders a dozen times, what's the difference?

Who gets to play TOR, NJD and NYI a dozen times?

different divisions change from time to time and become stronger or weaker, depending on
performance from season to season, up until last season the north west division was
probably the strongest in the league, according to how competetive they were within
their division against each other, none of them either went to the finals or won the cup, recently.

Pittsburg won the stanely cup after having not played in a strong division

detroit won the stanley cup before that having not played in a strong division

doesn't matter much after the dust settles. those stats change and different
teams win divisions because of it, just the way it goes for everyone.

it is an interesting comment, but doesn't mean much, other than the strongest team in the
division will probably win 'that' division, and it ends there.

You really don't get it do you? Winning the Stanley Cup has nothing to do with playing in a strong or weak division. Regular season points and position in the standings have to do with playing in a strong or weak division. It's why the regular season standings have little to do with whether a team has a realistic shot at the cup.
 

JLM

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Who gets to play TOR, NJD and NYI a dozen times?

Who plays Calgary a dozen times?



You really don't get it do you? Winning the Stanley Cup has nothing to do with playing in a strong or weak division. Regular season points and position in the standings have to do with playing in a strong or weak division. It's why the regular season standings have little to do with whether a team has a realistic shot at the cup.

You may want to check the Oilers' reg. season stats during the mid 80s.
 

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Cannuck you came on this topic with a bee up your bloomers like you usually do. Negative comments and trolling seem to be your fort. The forums are not a competition and you don't win if you get in the last sarcastic reply.

I'm sorry that you feel questioning the strength of the 'nucks is trolling. I'm not surprised really. You've never struck me as somebody who could discuss issues without throwing labels around.

Perhaps you could talk to the mods and have the rules changed so that only die hard 'nucks fans are allowed to come to this thread.