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karrie

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Karrie - I completely agree with a comment I heard last night about this issue: Educate according to the individual needs of the student, not the gender.

Wow, whoever said that is BRILLIANT! lol.
 

gerryh

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haha - I'll let her know. :p

For some reason I can't multiple quote with my iPhone.

I have no problem with segregated schools for boys and girls when it is a choice.

As for the "brilliant" comment, make sure she doesn't hurt herself when she pats herself on the back, Zan. lol
 

karrie

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For some reason I can't multiple quote with my iPhone.

I have no problem with segregated schools for boys and girls when it is a choice.

As for the "brilliant" comment, make sure she doesn't hurt herself when she pats herself on the back, Zan. lol

I don't mind the idea of segregated schools IF, firstly, they have made sure that within the existing systems, it is possible for a girl who learns like a boy, or a boy who learns like a girl, to get a decent education. Segregating the genders into separate schools, to my way of thinking, is a response to the failure within the system to provide some individuals with what they need (enough science, enough arts, enough physical activity, etc.). It's an attempt to accomodate for a short coming. But, before they go ahead and make a change, they need to make sure that it actually solves the problem for as many students as possible, and in my opinion, it doesn't necessarily.
 

Bcool

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I don't mind the idea of segregated schools IF, firstly, they have made sure that within the existing systems, it is possible for a girl who learns like a boy, or a boy who learns like a girl, to get a decent education. Segregating the genders into separate schools, to my way of thinking, is a response to the failure within the system to provide some individuals with what they need (enough science, enough arts, enough physical activity, etc.). It's an attempt to accomodate for a short coming. But, before they go ahead and make a change, they need to make sure that it actually solves the problem for as many students as possible, and in my opinion, it doesn't necessarily.
Having been schooled in the UK when most schools were gender specific & having discussed our schooling system with male Brits in later years, I'd not be too keen on such a system. Bullying is far more prevalent in gender separated schools, we all experienced that & studies done in the sixties & seventies in the UK showed bullying to be more than halved in co-ed schools; one of the reasons they made the whole system co-ed I believe. And I do question the Board's statement: "promote math and science skills where boys typically excel." if it's saying boys excel moreso than girls? Not sure if that's what they're saying but, if so, I think there are many studies now showing that girls actually do much better in the sciences than boys as long as they're taught that they can do well, the 'dumb girls' message gets absorbed pretty early apparently. It well may be that boys do better in the sciences in an all boys environment though.

I think what may be useful is a report or statistical study comparing the before & after grades of the girls who went from co-ed to the all girls school in the district. And studies from the Board showing an improvement in grades of boys in other school districts who switched from co-ed to all boys, they must have done extensive research that showed enough improvement to make the project worthwhile and better academically for the students. Making that info available to parents would be very helpful IMO.
 

Walter

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Karrie - I completely agree with a comment I heard last night about this issue: Educate according to the individual needs of the student, not the gender.
Then home-schooling is best because as soon as you get more than 2 or 3 students in a class individuality goes out the window.
 

wired

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Studies have shown that girls typically liked to study in quieter work areas while boys typically in louder ones, etc, etc. You can educate according to the student but who the student is is also defined (if partly) by their gender.
 

Josephia

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We have found in New Zealand that the boys do better if they don't have to compete with girls or be distracted by the girls. Our most outstanding academic school is Auckland Grammar which is an all boys school. It is not private, takes all comers living in the school zone, streams them according to their abilty and challenges the boys with excellent teachers and frequent exams. Their natural tendencies to competition and rank within the school makes the boys excel by themselves. The local all girls High School also is academically advanced. The two school cooperate in theatre events, artistic events, and dances throughout the school year. I am now strongly in favour of separate but equal schools, having been in a co-ed school myself while growing up.