AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Where do they come up with this crap, anyways? You realize that the volcano in Iceland that erupted this year put more carbon into the air then all of humanity, every person, vehicles, building, factory, has in the last decade.

Wrong.

[/QUOTE]
The science that claims carbon is causing problems is junk science. In Al Gore's atrocity of film he shows a graph correlating carbon and temperature increases. The map isn't over lapping. Reason being, carbon increase comes after temperature increase, not before. Temperature increases caused carbon increases not the other way around. It's all BS.[/QUOTE]

Nope, it's a little more complicated than a talking point.

I'm sure you can back up your argument with peer reviewed papers on the subject.

I can.


[/QUOTE] They are lying to us to tax us.[/QUOTE]

Scientists are lying to us for tax increases......?

That's funny.


[/QUOTE] The Rothschilds fund Al Gore.[/QUOTE]


Al Gore is a douche and not a climatologist, he's a politician and an opportunist.

I'll stick to the science, you stick to politics, junk science and bad journalism.

[/QUOTE] Fossil fuels funding science???? Name one. It's simply not true.[/QUOTE]

How does a fossil fuel fund science?

 

[Skatchie]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Again, peer reviewed science????? you mean the same a-holes that had everybody that disagreed with them fired or had their funding cut, completely? Oh, you mean the scientific ruling class dictatorship that has completely ruled out scientific method in all of it's studies? Ya, I put a lot of stock in that garbage.

People with nothing to hide, hide nothing. These people hide everything and cover everything up, and don't allow objective science. the world isn't warming.

That and look at the agendas. The reason it's obvious GW is a farce is who's behind it. Rothschilds, check. Rockefellers, check. The EU, check. The UN, check. Every globalist scum in the world, check. What is the agenda? Oh, that's right, tax everything. Okay, well where does the money go? Oh, to an international banking consortium, right, that sounds like real science to me. Apparently saving the world is pretty expensive.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Again, peer reviewed science????? you mean the same a-holes that had everybody that disagreed with them fired or had their funding cut, completely? Oh, you mean the scientific ruling class dictatorship that has completely ruled out scientific method in all of it's studies? Ya, I put a lot of stock in that garbage.

People with nothing to hide, hide nothing. These people hide everything and cover everything up, and don't allow objective science. the world isn't warming.

That and look at the agendas. The reason it's obvious GW is a farce is who's behind it. Rothschilds, check. Rockefellers, check. The EU, check. The UN, check. Every globalist scum in the world, check. What is the agenda? Oh, that's right, tax everything. Okay, well where does the money go? Oh, to an international banking consortium, right, that sounds like real science to me. Apparently saving the world is pretty expensive.

You're funny.

Get that tin foil hat on real tight.

When you want to back up anything you say and address my entire post I would be most interested in responding to you.

Until then have a wonderfully ignorant day.

Ciao.

 

[Skatchie]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

You're funny.

Get that tin foil hat on real tight.

When you want to back up anything you say and address my entire post I would be most interested in responding to you.

Until then have a wonderfully ignorant day.

Ciao.

Back it up???? That's exactly what climategate was, validation of what I'm saying. Read the emails. They cooked the numbers and bullied every scientist that disagreed with them out of the picture. There's nothing to address. You don't have anything in your post worth addressing, unfortunately. It's all based on science collected by corrupt green nazi morons.

I'm not the one that's ignorant about this. The thing is, if climate change was real, and there are very real enviro issues out there that aren't addressed by the carbon tax crowd, they need to only speak truthfully and not be so belligerent and maybe a discussion could be had. I'm not debating you about junk science though. It's not worth my time. The people that came up with that crap have been discredited. It's just the way it is.

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Back it up???? That's exactly what climategate was, validation of what I'm saying. Read the emails. They cooked the numbers and bullied every scientist that disagreed with them out of the picture. There's nothing to address. You don't have anything in your post worth addressing, unfortunately. It's all based on science collected by corrupt green nazi morons.

That's a bit harsh don't you think? Firstly, about climategate, it's already been debunked. A long time ago. Secondly, do you really think it's fair that you can assume every single skeptic scientist on this planet was bullied into believing AGW? Bullying? Really?

I mean, if we're talking about bullying power based on income - let's just entertain this hypothesis for a second here - then the oil pundits have at least 20 times more bullying power than any nazi greenies would have. Those petroleum nose drippers (take that nazi greenies!) would make Nelson look like Milhouse.

Make no mistake those FOXy bitumen goobers are the ones playing the deck here.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Back it up???? That's exactly what climategate was, validation of what I'm saying. Read the emails. They cooked the numbers and bullied every scientist that disagreed with them out of the picture. There's nothing to address. You don't have anything in your post worth addressing, unfortunately. It's all based on science collected by corrupt green nazi morons.

I'm not the one that's ignorant about this. The thing is, if climate change was real, and there are very real enviro issues out there that aren't addressed by the carbon tax crowd, they need to only speak truthfully and not be so belligerent and maybe a discussion could be had. I'm not debating you about junk science though. It's not worth my time. The people that came up with that crap have been discredited. It's just the way it is.

Climategate proved nothing of the sort and you won't debate the science because you clearly don't know it.

That was clear in the things you just made up in your previous posts.

If your only argument is that it is a vast conspiracy by a cabal of world government socialists then you have lost.

Btw, welcome to cancon.

 

[Skatchie]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

That's a bit harsh don't you think? Firstly, about climategate, it's already been debunked. A long time ago. Secondly, do you really think it's fair that you can assume every single skeptic scientist on this planet was bullied into believing AGW? Bullying? Really?

I mean, if we're talking about bullying power based on income - let's just entertain this hypothesis for a second here - then the oil pundits have at least 20 times more bullying power than any nazi greenies would have. Those petroleum nose drippers (take that nazi greenies!) would make Nelson look like Milhouse.

Make no mistake those FOXy bitumen goobers are the ones playing the deck here.

This is all wrong though. BP is actually the biggest player in the global green markets, an obvious energy giant. They own the emerging markets that Cap and trade would be traded on. Anyways, the Oil industry is not against the scientists here, they are funding them. The illusion that it's oil vs science is all the science people base anything on, that and corrupted data, and it's simply not true. There is no fact in it.

and climategate was never debunked. The Brits threw together a panel of nimrods that claimed nothing happened. anyone that has read the emails, knows that it's not debunked. All they did was excuse themselves. There wasn't an independent person in the hearing, at all. How a panel of idiots can take emails that obviously demonstrate professors getting fired and funding cut for anybody not cooking the books to distort the data and make it, "nothing" is beyond me. it wasn't nothing. They lied, got caught, and we all know they're full of s*** and have no credibility anymore. At least, free thinking people without bias know, anyways.

Climategate proved nothing of the sort and you won't debate the science because you clearly don't know it.

That was clear in the things you just made up in your previous posts.

If your only argument is that it is a vast conspiracy by a cabal of world government socialists then you have lost.

Btw, welcome to cancon.

The guy that asks for issues to be debated, yet only throws out ridiculous arrogant condescending crap about wearing tinfoil telling me that I don't know the facts and can't debate it. Ya, sure. Lots of credibility there, bud.

You want to debate science that is admittedly, in emails they sent, corrupted. Actually NASA, that's right, NASA, is on record claiming the world has actually cooled in the last decade and stopped warming 15 years ago. Which is why the green idiot snake oil selling bone heads try to sell it as Climate Change now, instead of Global Warming. It's a farce.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

The guy that asks for issues to be debated, yet only throws out ridiculous arrogant condescending crap about wearing tinfoil telling me that I don't know the facts and can't debate it. Ya, sure. Lots of credibility there, bud.

You want to debate science that is admittedly, in emails they sent, corrupted. Actually NASA, that's right, NASA, is on record claiming the world has actually cooled in the last decade and stopped warming 15 years ago. Which is why the green idiot snake oil selling bone heads try to sell it as Climate Change now, instead of Global Warming. It's a farce.

Well, go ahead.

Address my original post on carbon lag and volcanic CO2 production.

Thanks.

While you're at it explain this...."The new finding comes on the tail of a NASA announcement that 2000 to 2009 was the warmest decade in history."

 

[Skatchie]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Well, go ahead.

Address my original post on carbon lag and volcanic CO2 production.

Thanks.

While you're at it explain this...."The new finding comes on the tail of a NASA announcement that 2000 to 2009 was the warmest decade in history."

I don't have to. You're sources have misinformation. They aren't credible. There are studies that show an increase in sea ice in the arctic since 1980. There is irrefutable evidence that crops grew on Greenland, not 1000 years ago, and there were vineyards in northern England. It was several degrees warmer than now. The whole thing's a scam. Sun Spots are the reason for the Earth warming and cooling. Not us. we aren't a pimple on an Elephant's ass when it comes to climate change.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

I don't have to. You're sources have misinformation. They aren't credible. There are studies that show an increase in sea ice in the arctic since 1980. There is irrefutable evidence that crops grew on Greenland, not 1000 years ago, and there were vineyards in northern England. It was several degrees warmer than now. The whole thing's a scam. Sun Spots are the reason for the Earth warming and cooling. Not us. we aren't a pimple on an Elephant's ass when it comes to climate change.

Just as I thought.

The rest of what you just said isn't true either.

 

[Skatchie]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Just as I thought.

The rest of what you just said isn't true either.

Just as you thought, eh. Did you read your climate nazi youth propaganda pamphlet before deciding that everything you say is true, and everything I say is false? Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. Information to the contrary of what you say can be found with little to no effort at all.

It all comes down to agenda. Scientists need funding. They only get it with pro climate change nonsense. That's not debatable. The solutions presented by the green movement are all carbon based. Again, not debatable. Nothing any of them have ever presented curtails deforestation or the production of plastic, which are the only real environmental issues around today. The agenda is for us to give money, in tax form, to a global authority. This is straight out of their own mouths. At the Copenhagen retardfest.

And as has been said before, when the envirotards stop being belligerent about everything and allow a civil discussion, it will take place. They are actually the ones preventing it from happening. No amount name calling and tinfoil hats and FOX references can change the fact that the people claiming the Earth was warming were caught for lying about it. The cat's out of the bag.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Just as you thought, eh. Did you read your climate nazi youth propaganda pamphlet before deciding that everything you say is true, and everything I say is false? Just because you say it, doesn't make it true. Information to the contrary of what you say can be found with little to no effort at all.

It all comes down to agenda. Scientists need funding. They only get it with pro climate change nonsense. That's not debatable. The solutions presented by the green movement are all carbon based. Again, not debatable. Nothing any of them have ever presented curtails deforestation or the production of plastic, which are the only real environmental issues around today. The agenda is for us to give money, in tax form, to a global authority. This is straight out of their own mouths. At the Copenhagen retardfest.

And as has been said before, when the envirotards stop being belligerent about everything and allow a civil discussion, it will take place. They are actually the ones preventing it from happening. No amount name calling and tinfoil hats and FOX references can change the fact that the people claiming the Earth was warming were caught for lying about it. The cat's out of the bag.

Yeah, I get it.

You think it's a vast conspiracy.

Sorry, I don't believe in conspiracies.

Have a good one.

 

[Skatchie]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Yeah, I get it.

You think it's a vast conspiracy.

Sorry, I don't believe in conspiracies.

Have a good one.

Correction, I don't "think" it's a vast conspiracy. upon examining the details I came to the conclusion, as did virtually every sane person on the planet that read the emails, that it most definitely is a vast conspiracy. The information came from them, the perpetrators. They have never denied that the emails, in question, were real and came from whom they are said to have come from. Read them. It's obvious. Take your head out of the sand.

 

[captain morgan]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Did you read your climate nazi youth propaganda pamphlet before deciding that everything you say is true, and everything I say is false? Just because you say it, doesn't make it true.

Great reference...

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Correction, I don't "think" it's a vast conspiracy. upon examining the details I came to the conclusion, as did virtually every sane person on the planet that read the emails, that it most definitely is a vast conspiracy. The information came from them, the perpetrators. They have never denied that the emails, in question, were real and came from whom they are said to have come from. Read them. It's obvious. Take your head out of the sand.

Like I said.

I don't believe in vast conspiracies.

 

[captain morgan]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Well, fair warning. I'm moving the posts that don't pertain to coral reefs to:
AGW Denial, The Greatest Scam in History?

This entire thread should be in one of the GW areas.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

This entire thread should be in one of the GW areas.

Umm, where is it then?

 

[captain morgan]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

Like I said.

I don't believe in vast conspiracies.

It wasn't that vast Avro... But it was centered on a small group that the IPCC deemed as the leader in the field. That is what makes it even more appalling

 

[JLM]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

I don't have to. You're sources have misinformation. They aren't credible. There are studies that show an increase in sea ice in the arctic since 1980. There is irrefutable evidence that crops grew on Greenland, not 1000 years ago, and there were vineyards in northern England. It was several degrees warmer than now. The whole thing's a scam. Sun Spots are the reason for the Earth warming and cooling. Not us. we aren't a pimple on an Elephant's ass when it comes to climate change.

I think you just may be onto somethng, there Skatch.

 

[Avro]

Re: 2010, another year of extreme coral bleaching

It wasn't that vast Avro... But it was centered on a small group that the IPCC deemed as the leader in the field. That is what makes it even more appalling

It would have to be vast to include 97% of the climatologists to be involved and btw climategate is not proof of fraud....it's not even a "gate".

You'll like Satchie, he makes stuff up as well like the volcano in Iceland that blew it's top this past year produced more carbon than man in the last 10 years. The grounded planes probally produce more carbon....funny stuff though.

Wait a tick, look what google just found....I was right...unless google and world geologists are part of this vast conspiracy as well.