Monsanto GM Seed Ban is Overturned by US Supreme Court

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I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, Stretch, but this food labelling impasse makes me wonder how many MEPs got hand-outs from Monsanto to vote they way they did. It is like hitting your head against a brick wall when trying to reign in this monstrous company. People have the right to know what they are eating and what has been fed to what they are eating. Shame on the MEPs.
A recent public poll of American citizens asking them what they thought was the most evil American corporation had the majority pointing their fingers at Monsanto, so even Americans are aware of the monster (unlike some US corporations whose affects can only be felt by foreigners).

What was interesting was how universal the hate was across both Blue and Red states.

Blue-staters hate the company because they don't like the idea of genetically modified food being shoved down their throats without them at least having the option of knowing what they're eating.

Red-staters hate the company because those states tend to be agricultural, and Monsanto has been systematically suing into the ground any farmer who doesn't buy their seed.

That's done by sending agents to inspect non-Monsanto crops growing next to crops that had been Monsanto the year before.

If the non-Monsanto farmer is of the traditional type who saves some of his harvest to be next year's seed, and if some of his seeds got pollinated by the Monsanto crop next door, he gets sued out of existence for growing plants containing Monsanto patented genes without a license.

Consequently, traditional farmers are terrified of Monsanto.

The ACLU has been trying to counter with an argument that, since pollen-carrying winds are an act of God, the farmer who gets his crops dusted with Monsanto pollen from next door shouldn't be held responsible for the cross-pollenization, such that if Monsanto wants to protect their monopoly on specific plant genes, then they should use some of the standard, old plant-genetics tricks used by plant-geneticists with other species to stop them from pollinating (think seedless grapes).

The fact that Monsanto is so opposed to this idea when it's a relatively easy-and-standard process to make strains that won't pollinate has some people in the ACLU scratching their heads, given how it would be the most straightforward way to protect one's monopoly on various genes, which is leading some to think that Monsanto deliberately *wants* their crops to cross-pollinate in order to give them legal leverage to wipe out competition.

Political Geographers will be the first to tell you it's a known historical fact that ample production of a stable food supply is the number-one key factor to the establishment and maintenance of a first-world industrial society. No nation has ever become wealthy and industrial unless it was first able to feed itself on a regular and affordable basis, such that even Japan, with so little cultivatable land, maintains self-sufficiency in rice because they know that.

If there's *anything* the Canadian border should be used for, it's protection against the tyranny of something like a Monsanto, yet the current government has been amazingly passive about surrendering it's job of governing over to corporate-rule, and it's starting to hurt what used to be Canada's greatest power: food production.

80% of Saskatchewan family-farmers are having to find supplementary work in part-time jobs to keep their farms running against the corporate-farms seeding nutritionally vacuous mono-culture crops... the kind of crops where consumers are forced to buy vitamin-supplements to live on.

What's weird is, all those boards (wheat board, dairy board, etc.) were originally set up to protect consumers from erratic supply and to protect family-farmers from unfair competition, all of which was done to secure citizens from hunger, yet, somehow, corporate-agriculture has found a way around all that, and the elected reps who's job it is to watch out for and stop dangerous situations like that have been looking the other way.

Corporate competition for monopolistic domination in things like portable media players is one thing, because items like that aren't vital to survival, but when it comes to food... if there's *anything* one should never allow corporate-monopoly control of, it's food.
 
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A recent public poll of American citizens asking them what they thought was the most evil American corporation had the majority pointing their fingers at Monsanto, so even Americans are aware of the monster (unlike some US corporations whose affects can only be felt by foreigners).

What was interesting was how universal the hate was across both Blue and Red states.

Blue-staters hate the company because they don't like the idea of genetically modified food being shoved down their throats without them at least having the option of knowing what they're eating.

Red-staters hate the company because those states tend to be agricultural, and Monsanto has been systematically suing into the ground any farmer who doesn't buy their seed.

That's done by sending agents to inspect non-Monsanto crops growing next to crops that had been Monsanto the year before.

If the non-Monsanto farmer is of the traditional type who saves some of his harvest to be next year's seed, and if some of his seeds got pollinated by the Monsanto crop next door, he gets sued out of existence for growing plants containing Monsanto patented genes without a license.

Consequently, traditional farmers are terrified of Monsanto.

The ACLU has been trying to counter with an argument that, since pollen-carrying winds are an act of God, the farmer who gets his crops dusted with Monsanto pollen from next door shouldn't be held responsible for the cross-pollenization, such that if Monsanto wants to protect their monopoly on specific plant genes, then they should use some of the standard, old plant-genetics tricks used by plant-geneticists with other species to stop them from pollinating (think seedless grapes).

The fact that Monsanto is so opposed to this idea when it's a relatively easy-and-standard process to make strains that won't pollinate has some people in the ACLU scratching their heads, given how it would be the most straightforward way to protect one's monopoly on various genes, which is leading some to think that Monsanto deliberately *wants* their crops to cross-pollinate in order to give them legal leverage to wipe out competition.

Political Geographers will be the first to tell you it's a known historical fact that ample production of a stable food supply is the number-one key factor to the establishment and maintenance of a first-world industrial society. No nation has ever become wealthy and industrial unless it was first able to feed itself on a regular and affordable basis, such that even Japan, with so little cultivatable land, maintains self-sufficiency in rice because they know that.

If there's *anything* the Canadian border should be used for, it's protection against the tyranny of something like a Monsanto, yet the current government has been amazingly passive about surrendering it's job of governing over to corporate-rule, and it's starting to hurt what used to be Canada's greatest power: food production.

80% of Saskatchewan family-farmers are having to find supplementary work in part-time jobs to keep their farms running against the corporate-farms seeding nutritionally vacuous mono-culture crops... the kind of crops where consumers are forced to buy vitamin-supplements to live on.

What's weird is, all those boards (wheat board, dairy board, etc.) were originally set up to protect consumers from erratic supply and to protect family-farmers from unfair competition, all of which was done to secure citizens from hunger, yet, somehow, corporate-agriculture has found a way around all that, and the elected reps who's job it is to watch out for and stop dangerous situations like that have been looking the other way.

Corporate competition for monopolistic domination in things like portable media players is one thing, because items like that aren't vital to survival, but when it comes to food... if there's *anything* one should never allow corporate-monopoly control of, it's food.
If you can control the food supply, you can control the population........
 

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GMO Crop Catastrophe in USA a Lesson for EU


Friday, 27 August 2010 07:51



'As the European Union moves closer to approving the cultivation of GMOs despite stiff widespread opposition, it ought to be paying urgent attention to the agricultural arms race unfolding in the United States. The gospel of high-tech genetically modified (GM) crops is no longer sounding quite so sweet. Roundup-resistant “superweeds” are plaguing Monsanto crops across southern US states, driving farmers to use more herbicides, abandon their farms or .... return to conventional crops.'
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Okee dokee... http://tunes.digitalock.com/Damien_Robitaille-Metres_De_Mon_Etre.mp3 <-- soundtrack for this thought

What do you think would happen if one were to fiddle some plant genes such that dandelions were to grow carrot root?

What if one were to fiddle plant genes such that blackberries were to grow coffee beans?

How would you like if it lawn-grass where to grow one inch tall before sprouting a head of wheat-seeds which you harvest upon each mowing?

What if plant genetics were manipulated for weeds to grow foodfull, such that at worst a hungry person would go out and pick weeds to eat?

Would it lead to another level of overpopulation?

Would Monstanto freak out and invent toxins to kill them and get license to use everywhere in the name of some lawyer deeking the Bush Supreme Court into saying that if they are not natural then they are weeds?

Would there be an ACLU lawyer there to stump them on how their own plants are not natural?

I know how plant genetics works, and if retardevil-Monsanto wants to get silly about it, in fact no chromosome sets on the planet were ever set up for manipulation like plant genetics - they can swap genes between species without going cancerous, which they do all the time, unlike animal genes - and as far as we're concerned all they have to do is keep photosynthesizing, produce oxygen, look happy, and keep resulting in digestible food.

If Monsanto wants to be dicks about it and go all the way, science knows how to turn all weeds into food... in fact it's rather old technology (again, it's an issue of some extremely important differences between how plant chromosomes work versus animal chromosomes) and it's only been held in check by Food Inc. and the need of plant geneticists to have jobs and the need of farmers to be able to sell crops... Hmm... if I were Saskatchewan I'd play Monsanto's game and make sure only Saskatchewan farmers are licensed for the new strains; and sue the nuts off Monsanto if any of the Saskatchewan genes are found in any Monsanto crops.

As non-photosynthetic creatures, we have to draw the line at food. That's where it stops, and Monsanto is @#$%ing around with that.

Of your Australian weeds, which ones do you think would be most well suited to growing which foods?

For starters: Where I live it would be having dandelions grow carrot roots.

Which of your weeds would be best spliced with which vegetables?

http://tunes.digitalock.com/Handel_Messiah_Chorus.mp3 <-- click here to think about it.
 
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Blood on Our Farms: Is Monsanto Responsible for One Suicide Every 30 Minutes?


Friday, 03 September 2010 09:38



'India is in the midst of a flood of suicides among farmers. A new feature film written and directed by Anusha Rizwi and produced by Bollywood megastar Aamir Khan, called Peepli Live, takes a look at this grim topic.
The vast majority of people in India still farm for a living, but are caught between deep debt and the erratic nature of seasonal change. Indian farmers are pressured into mortgaging their farms to purchase genetically modified seeds, pesticides, and fertilizer from American companies like Monsanto.'
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Report Finds Regulators Knew Monsanto's Roundup Caused Birth Defects


Thursday, 09 June 2011 09:15


'Industry regulators have known for years that Roundup, the world's best-selling herbicide produced by U.S. company Monsanto, causes birth defects, according to a new report released Tuesday.

The report, "Roundup and birth defects: Is the public being kept in the dark?" found regulators knew as long ago as 1980 that glyphosate, the chemical on which Roundup is based, can cause birth defects in laboratory animals.

But despite such warnings, and although the European Commission has known that glyphosate causes malformations since at least 2002, the information was not made public.'
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