Should Canada revoke freedom of religion for Muslims?

[CDNBear]

Thats what you said...

No it isn't.

U're going outside the topic in hand''

:lol:

I'm not going to give Bible as an example because i haven't read it completely even though im pretty sure its the same but in Kuran,it is told countless times that the lives we are living now are only temporary and sort of a test,so the believers of kuran believe that also since you cannot pick any commandement you like and ignore the ones you don't,ergo it is not an opinion,it is a fact.

Sure, if the Quran was fact. Like the Bible, and Torah, it's fiction. A God created by man to make things make sense.

But besides that, you saying my comment didn't make sense, is simply your opinion. To many others it makes perfect sense. Especially when you qualify your original train of thought with the context of the Quran being absolute.

 

[Ulgundo]

No it isn't.

:lol:

Sure, if the Quran was fact. Like the Bible, and Torah, it's fiction. A God created by man to make things make sense.

But besides that, you saying my comment didn't make sense, is simply your opinion. To many others it makes perfect sense. Especially when you qualify your original train of thought with the context of the Quran being absolute.

No i did not,i said believers of kuran believe that information.I share your opinion on religions beign mans tool to explain what they were not able to and for your information,i am a deist.

 

[CDNBear]

No i did not,i said believers of kuran believe that information.I share your opinion on religions beign mans tool to explain what they couldn't have,and for your information,i am a deist.

Awesome, and I still stand by my commentary.

 

[Ulgundo]

Awesome, and I still stand by my commentary.

The one about how religious people should reevaluate their priorities?

 

[CDNBear]

The one about how religious people should reevaluate their priorities?

All of it.

 

[Ulgundo]

Well even though i don't agree,i have to respect it,and i do...

 

[CDNBear]

Well even though i don't agree,i have to respect it,and i do...

Well, then I respectfully agree to disagree with you. Thanks for the enlightening conversation. Pleased to have met you here. My name is Bear, seriously, lol.

 

[Ulgundo]

Well, then I respectfully agree to disagree with you. Thanks for the enlightening conversation. Pleased to have met you here. My name is Bear, seriously, lol.

Right back at you,my name is Baran by the way.(Really bear,i mean really?)

 

[Slim Chance]

Also, at one point profiling becomes outright harassment. I remember one friend who'd get pulled over by the same cop regularly but never get arrested.


But hey, profiling is fine, right.

I can hardly wait for the day when an APB is released detailing the next bank robbery:

"Keep on the look-out for an individual of of undetermined gender, non-specific race, possibly with or without hair of no specific colour, of unknown height and weight."

.. That'll really be a wonderful tool for the police.

 

[eh1eh]

Has anyone asked Hitler? :roll:

 

[CDNBear]

Has anyone asked Hitler? :roll:

Yes, I did. I held a seance this morning, and he told me that we were a bunch of clowns. "Muslims are great, why wouldn't they be, they helped me exterminate the Jooos."

 

[eh1eh]

Yes, I did. I held a seance this morning, and he told me that we were a bunch of clowns. "Muslims are great, why wouldn't they be, they helped me exterminate the Jooos."

I think maybe he picked the wrong target.

 

[MHz]

Yes, I did. I held a seance this morning, and he told me that we were a bunch of clowns. "Muslims are great, why wouldn't they be, they helped me exterminate the Jooos."

Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie AG was is business because of the support coming from America and Northern European countries, more or less "Christian" controlled Governments. The German who were instrumental in the camps were all given jobs in the CIA after the end of the war, first thing they did was start the same thing with the Muslim countries, Iran 1953 for example.

 

[CDNBear]

Interessen-Gemeinschaft Farbenindustrie AG was is business because of the support coming from America and Northern European countries, more or less "Christian" controlled Governments. The German who were instrumental in the camps were all given jobs in the CIA after the end of the war, first thing they did was start the same thing with the Muslim countries, Iran 1953 for example.

You aren't aren't their case mhz.

 

[Machjo]

WHOA- hang on- seems the situation is changing as we go along. The O.P. mentioned Muslim not Islam - Muslim is a bastardized version. No form of the word "criminal" was in the O.P. or referring to the poll. So I suggest the results of the poll are invalid.

Here's what the OP says (with some parts put in bold for emphasis):

Seeing that some seem to insist on blaming all Muslims for 911, I'd like to know how many here would actually support revoking freedom of religion for all Muslims.

This would include freedom of Muslim association, establishing and maintaining Muslim religious organizations, building mosques, establishing and maintaining Muslim schools, and revealing one's Muslim identity. This could also extend to publishing companies, book shops and libraries being prohibited from supplying Muslim sacred texts. Anyone who should openly identify as a Muslim would go to prison labour (or be deported if he's not born in Canada or is not a convert) until such a time as he denounces his faith. And anyone married to a Muslim would legally be required to divorce that Muslim, and anyone with Muslim parents or children would have to renounce them too.

From comments I've read here and in other forums, I get the impression that some would likely support this and I just want to know how rampant this feeling is.

Clearly nothing's changed. The poll clarifies that it's based on what is in the OP, and that's the OP after all. Since when had we deviated from that?

The whole time in this thread until now, I'd assumed the people who'd voted yes had read the OP before voting. To make it a a criminal offense (implied by the reference to prison) to even do so much as reveal your identity essentially amounts to criminalizing Islam. It would mean that if a person asks you what you're religion is, you'd legally be required to refuse to answer if you were a Muslim. To answer that you are a Muslim would e a criminal offence, and that was clear within the context of the OP.

 

[Machjo]

WHOA- hang on- seems the situation is changing as we go along. The O.P. mentioned Muslim not Islam - Muslim is a bastardized version. No form of the word "criminal" was in the O.P. or referring to the poll. So I suggest the results of the poll are invalid.

Muslim is a adherent of Islam. Essentially, 'a Muslim' is to 'a Christian' what Islam is to Christianity. One is an adherent of the religion.

I don't see how any to this has to do with bastardization. One who bastardizes Is;am is not a true Muslim.

 

[Machjo]

I can hardly wait for the day when an APB is released detailing the next bank robbery:

"Keep on the look-out for an individual of of undetermined gender, non-specific race, possibly with or without hair of no specific colour, of unknown height and weight."

.. That'll really be a wonderful tool for the police.

There's a difference. In your example, a person of a particular appearance has indeed robbed a bank.

In the case of profiling at the airport, a religious extremist has no particular physical appearance. Bryant Vinas was a Hispanic member of the Taliban. And that woman (I forget her name) who was planning a bombing in Europe had Nordic features.

So a more exact analogy would be:

"Keep on the look-out for ten individuals, mostly black males but one tanned white man and one woman with blond hair, etc."

 

[JLM]

Muslim is a adherent of Islam. Essentially, 'a Muslim' is to 'a Christian' what Islam is to Christianity. One is an adherent of the religion.

I don't see how any to this has to do with bastardization. One who bastardizes Is;am is not a true Muslim.

Oooooooooh that is contrary to my understanding, I've been told a Muslim doesn't practice pure Islam. I guess the guy who told me that was wrong. :smile:

 

[Machjo]

There's a difference. In your example, a person of a particular appearance has indeed robbed a bank.

In the case of profiling at the airport, a religious extremist has no particular physical appearance. Bryant Vinas was a Hispanic member of the Taliban. And that woman (I forget her name) who was planning a bombing in Europe had Nordic features.

So a more exact analogy would be:

"Keep on the look-out for ten individuals, mostly black males but one tanned white man and one woman with blond hair, etc."

Now if the report said that the bank robber were all black males, then the Hispanic man and the woman would have the perfect opportunity to escape. That's what's happening with profiling.

 

[Machjo]

Oooooooooh that is contrary to my understanding, I've been told a Muslim doesn't practice pure Islam. I guess the guy who told me that was wrong. :smile:

It gives the OP a whole new meaning, doesn't it:lol: