Tory G8 abortion stance

TenPenny

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Developed countries help undeveloped countries, in this instance Harper has been labelled as a self-righteous hypocrite fool. As I said before if Harper has the balls to tell the Canadian people we will not support abortion here in Canada, then the world would not look at Canada as a country that preach compassion when in fact they only preach to get votes. Does that get through to you? or you want to sit here labelling me as the idol when in fact I am talking of a problem that requires human compassion not partisan bullsh!t politics in an effort to stay in power .

You can't just blame Harper, what about those Liberals that voted the same way?
 

lone wolf

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I didn't ask for propaganda. I asked some questions ... that you are avoiding answering.

Since when was "Harper" (seeing as how he is the excuse for this rant) responsible for changing laws and enforcing Canadian morals in a foreign country?

Do you understand the concept of earmarking funds for specific projects?

Is abortion even legal THERE?

Are you suggesting Canada should be counselling rape victims to commit the crime of having an abortion?

You would be one of the first to nag in Uncle Sam was imposing his will on a soverign nation, Why do you think it's okay for Canada to do the same?
 

Slim Chance

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Hey LW who will set the example abroad having compassion for defenceless women?.


What are you, personally doing about setting an example to aid these poor victims, SoC? You do realize that it's isn't illegal for you to kick in your own cash and pay for these abortions yourself, right?

All I see is a lot of hot air and accusations from you, but that doesn't help these women, does it?
 

Socrates the Greek

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The Opposition blasted Harper for pandering to a socially conservative agenda that they said diminished Canada on the world stage and left it in lockstep with the values of the departed Republican administration of George W. Bush.

Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff accused the Conservatives of embarrassing Canada on the international stage by not funding abortions as part of the G8 plan. Ignatieff said Harper has reopened the abortion debate after it was settled in Canada two decades ago, when the law outlawing abortions was struck down.

"Why is the prime minister denying the fact that maternal health must include access to safe and legal abortions be it in Canada, or be it outside of Canada?" asked Ignatieff.
"The government is reversing a 25-year-old position of consensus on this issue in Canada on this question."
Canada hosts the G8 summit this summer in Huntsville, Ont. and has championed the plan to bring basic health services to the poorest of pregnant women and children, mostly in Africa.
An estimated 350,000 to 500,000 women die in childbirth each year, while another nine million children never live to see their fifth birthday. An estimated 13 per cent of deaths are due to complications related to abortion.
Harper Defends Tories' G8 Abortion Stand, Says Canada Can Fund Other Projects - CityNews
 

YukonJack

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No better indication of a nation being on self-destructing suicidal path than the unconditional support of killing of its unborn citizens by unrestricted and publicly funded abortions.
 

Socrates the Greek

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What are you, personally doing about setting an example to aid these poor victims, SoC? You do realize that it's isn't illegal for you to kick in your own cash and pay for these abortions yourself, right?

All I see is a lot of hot air and accusations from you, but that doesn't help these women, does it?
:roll::roll:
 

TenPenny

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Doesn't play well with friends.
Short attention span.
Doesn't listen to teacher's instructions.
Has trouble following written instructions / arguments.
 

Socrates the Greek

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Nor do you live up to the standard that you demand of others.......
What about the rest of the G7 calling him a hypocrite? are they hypocrites too?, or you at any cost will through rocks at me when in fact I did not start this debate abroad, and I have every right as a citizen of this world as you do to protest, against hypocrites that work both sides to stay in power.
 
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CDNBear

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What about the rest of the G7 calling him a hypocrite? are they hypocrites too?, or you at any cost will through rocks at me when in fact I did not start this debate abroad, and I have every right as a citizen of this world as you do to protest, against hypocrites that work both sides to stay in power.
Work both sides?

It is law in Canada, that abortion is a right. But I can guarantee you, there are no laws that say we as a nation have to fund them internationally.

The only hypocrites, are the ones making a political football out of this.
 

Socrates the Greek

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How is the world a better place if a woman who has already given birth seven times in seven years dies in pregnancy or childbirth, leaving those children without a mother to care for them?
Or if a 12-year-old child-bride dies because she's too tiny to survive delivery?
 

CDNBear

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How is the world a better place if a woman who has already given birth seven times in seven years dies in pregnancy or childbirth, leaving those children without a mother to care for them?
Or if a 12-year-old child-bride dies because she's too tiny to survive delivery?
Given the fact that most of these places are war torn, famine ridden, and over populated. Raising the mortality rate is a humane course of action.