Obama reforms USA's nuclear weapons policy

Icarus27k

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Again...do you need a history lesson?

Of course not. Everything I say about the US's nuclear weapons is based upon history. My rhetorical question is still there: Who in their right mind would use nukes on non-nuclear states? It's just common sense that one wouldn't.
 

EagleSmack

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Of course not. Everything I saw about the US's nuclear weapons is based upon history. What rhetorical question is still there: Who is their right would use nukes on non-nuclear states? It's just common sense that one wouldn't.

Ok. I will cut to the chase.

You are familiar with the final days of WWII I should hope. Do you remember the US dropping two Atomic Bombs on Japan? Did Japan have atomic bombs?
 

theconqueror

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Do you have an idea of how nuclear propulsion works? The nuclear reactor heats the water and creates propulsion and the turbines spin in lieu of oil and gas.

Anything else is Sci Fi at this time.

Unless you are kicking me in the leg, a nuclear reactor is just a big battery with a positive pool and a negative pool as shown.

All you have to do is shrink them into rocket size.

 

EagleSmack

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What part of a giant magnet sitting in water have to do with heat? Maybe your thinking of the old coal powered power plants?

A Nuclear reactor is not a giant magnet. It is, as Wolf said, a heat source. The nuclear reactor heats the water in lieu of a fossil fuel. Heat water, cause steam, turbines spin...power is created... lots of power.
 

theconqueror

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Maybe you're thinking of Star Trek. Reality is a wee bit different.

A link to support your tale may be helpful.

I live right next to the San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant that I showed a picture of, it is our right to know how it works and what lets say, "battery acid" can do to you if it leaked.

You can almost build one at home it's that simple of technology...
 

EagleSmack

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I live right next to the San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant that I showed a picture of, it is our right to know how it works and what lets say, "battery acid" can do to you if it leaked.

You can almost build one at home it's that simple of technology...

So if the core at San Onofre Nuclear Power Plant has a melt down it will just leak battery acid?
 

theconqueror

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A Nuclear reactor is not a giant magnet. It is, as Wolf said, a heat source. The nuclear reactor heats the water in lieu of a fossil fuel. Heat water, cause steam, turbines spin...power is created... lots of power.


Wrong. You can stick your hand in the water and find it room temperature. The only moving part and heat "If any" is the reactor, which looks like a high tech copper engine starter collecting energy which is connected to a transformer that sends your power down the power lines to your home.
 

Icarus27k

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Ok. I will cut to the chase.

You are familiar with the final days of WWII I should hope. Do you remember the US dropping two Atomic Bombs on Japan? Did Japan have atomic bombs?

I was intentionally trying to avoid a debate on the 1945 US atomic bombings of Japan because it's such a touchy subject. But yeah, even then it was a crazy thing to do.

I know of two US Presidents (Hoover and Eisenhower) who, at the very least, had negative feelings about the bombings of Japan as well. There's probably more recent Presidents that disagree with Truman's decision to use nukes then, but they are like me: they just don't want to talk about it.

I'm secure in saying that it was a crazy thing to do.
 

lone wolf

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I was intentionally trying to avoid a debate on the 1945 US atomic bombings of Japan because it's such a touchy subject. But yeah, even then it was a crazy thing to do.

I know of two US Presidents (Hoover and Eisenhower) who, at the very least, had negative feelings about the bombings of Japan as well. There's probably more recent Presidents that disagree with Truman's decision to use nukes then, but they are like me: they just don't want to talk about it.

I'm secure in saying that it was a crazy thing to do.

So was invading Manchuria....
 

Icarus27k

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I think if you tried to get an answer out of Obama about whether he agrees or disagrees with the US atomic bombings, he would probably be evasive at first, but then eventually admit that he wouldn't of done it if he were in the same situation as Truman.