Congratulation, President Obama!!!

Cannuck

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Took many years for the bush clan to bring the states to the level it is and you think he should have all the problems created solved in this short a time?

Nobody has said that. Perhaps if the discussion is over your head, you should refrain from engaging in it.

Thats just freaking amazing that you could even make an assumption like that.

Yes it would be if, in fact, that is what was happening.

Lets start with his commitment to not be dependant on foreign oil,if you dont think thats a step towards us getting out of the middle east then you should read the news about the saudis asking for a handout when it does happen. You did read the news this morning right? You see,the Saudi's take his promise very seriously. Haliburtons time will be short lived there soon as will lots of other American oil companies.

Blah blah blah.....nothing to do with the Nobel Peace Prize

You seem to forget this is not an "American" award to be doled out to who Americans want it to.

You seem to forget you have been asked what specifically Obama has done to merit this award. It's really no surprise you have chosen to avoid answering the question.

Must suck for some when the rest of the world actually see's something positive peace wise in someone and they cant do a thing about it.

I see something positive peacewise in lots of people. That doesn't mean they deserve the Nobel Prize.

Priceless!

Mind numbing!
 

AnnaG

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Since it's Norway giving out the prize you really dont have a say do you Anna?
No, but I can submit my opinion if that's ok with you. (not that I'd pay any attention to whether you give me permission or not.

So why does it bother you so much if this prize is so tarnished from its past?
Because it has become less noble a prize and insults Nobel's wishes. The integrity is shot. I happen to care about honesty, integrity, honor, etc. Apparently, you don't. That isn't my problem.
 
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AnnaG

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I'm sure I could find as many links from the other side but the point is your peeps werent handing out the prize so get over it allready,because of little kid mentalitys like yours I will be forced to sit through another "Obamathon" on tv this whole weekend and god only knows how long you and the rest of the sour grapes will be whining about it but if thats the only problem America has with Obama right now then I think hes doing pretty good.
What other side?

That was just the first page of links I got from the google search using "Obama" and Nobel" as tags. Some are fine with it, most aren't, all are surprised. I am sure that the second page of my search would result in the same ratio.
 

AnnaG

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Anyway, congrats, Big O. But I won't deify you, sorry. I'm not like Krak & Joke
 
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Cannuck

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You have to wonder why some people get so defensive just because somebody questions the wisdom of this award.
 

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No, but I can submit my opinion if that's ok with you. (not that I'd pay any attention to whether you give me permission or not.

Because it has become less noble a prize and detracts from Nobel's wishes. The integrity is shot. I happen to care about honesty, integrity, honor, etc. Apparently, you don't. That isn't my problem.

I'm also the most honest guy you would ever meet.
As for my integrity and honour,cheap shots just roll of my back but keep slinging. :lol:

Now lets talk about those Saudis asking for cash help for when obama stops buying their oil shall we?
One more step out of the middle east.
 

AnnaG

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I'm also the most honest guy you would ever meet.
As for my integrity and honour,cheap shots just roll of my back but keep slinging. :lol:
Wow. You wear your face on your back? Sorry, but I wasn't aiming for your back. If you turned around because you couldn't face it, it isn't my problem.

Now lets talk about those Saudis asking for cash help for when obama stops buying their oil shall we?
One more step out of the middle east.
And how's that developing world peace? It seems to me it'd be an antagonistic act.
 

Kakato

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Here,readers digest version.
You guys will obviously keep this up for months if not years so I'll bow out now,it's really a non issue.
I didnt like Obama when he got in because I am against protectionism but the last few weeks I'm starting to like the guy,not bad for a one time Bush sr and Iraq war supporter.;-)

Why did President Barack Obama win the Nobel Prize? Does it have something to do with Afghanistan? Is the Nobel meant to reward accomplishments, or encourage future actions? What will the president do with the big cash prize?
From water coolers to Twitter feeds, Americans are buzzing with questions about the Peace Prize surprise. Here are some answers.
___
Q: Is the Norwegian Nobel Committee, by giving the award to Obama, trying to discourage him from sending more troops to Afghanistan?
A: Committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland told The AP that it was not explicitly trying to influence any change in Obama's thinking about committing more troops to Afghanistan. But by getting the prize, and the status it confers, Obama may find himself with more leeway — at least abroad, if not at home — to seriously debate and decide whether such a surge is needed.
___
Q: Could the Nobel committee be trying to influence other aspects of U.S. foreign policy?
A: Yes, even if it is not trying explicitly to do so. The committee said that Obama had engaged in "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy" and singled out his effort to "work for a world without nuclear weapons."
The Nobel Prize carries a certain aura and is bound to make Obama more relevant on the world stage, particularly when it comes to scaling back nuclear weapons amid concerns that Iran may be pursuing them. Iran maintains that it wants nuclear power only for peaceful purposes.
"The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations," the committee said.
___
Q: Why did the committee say it gave the prize to Obama?
A: The committee cited "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
They wanted to encourage his efforts to reach out to other countries and the United Nations to jointly address global issues. They singled out nuclear disarmament, but also said that thanks to Obama the United States is playing a more constructive role in efforts to fight climate change.
___
Q: Does the award typically have more to do with past accomplishments or with encouraging future efforts related to peace?
A: Both. The committee often uses the award to encourage and promote a cause or campaign. The awards to Al Gore and the U.N. panel on climate change in 2007, or in 1997 to anti-land mine activists, would fall into that category. Other years it honors people with a long history of peace work. Last year's prize to longtime peace mediator Martti Ahtisaari was almost like a lifetime achievement award.

___
Q: Did Obama accomplish anything prior to becoming president that may have contributed to his nomination?
A: It's hard to know if members of the committee were thinking about Obama's earlier accomplishments when they decided to award him the prize. But a lot of what they praised about him — like his calls for more international cooperation, a smaller world stock of nuclear arms, better U.S. relations with Muslim nations and stepped-up efforts to combat climate change — was prominent in his campaign speeches, long before he took the oath of office.
___
Q: Is the award likely to help Obama politically at home? Or could it hurt him?
A: The prize is not necessarily a big plus for Obama in the tricky U.S. political arena.
He won election last year in part because voters weary with the nation's battered image abroad were attracted to his promise of a new start. But Republicans have been criticizing Obama as being too much celebrity and too little action, and they immediately seized on this new praise to try to bring him down a peg.
From Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, for instance: "It is unfortunate that the president's star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements."
___
Q: Will Obama collect the prize in person?
A: Yes, the president plans to travel to Oslo, Norway, in December to accept the award.
___
Q: What is Obama going to do with the $1.4 million in prize money?
A: White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the president will donate the cash award to charity. He said more than one charity will likely share the windfall, though Obama hasn't yet chosen specific ones.
___
Q: A lot of people — including some in the Obama administration — were surprised that the president won the award. Have past Nobel Peace Prize decisions been similarly surprising?
A: In 1995, the prize was shared by Joseph Rotblat and the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs. The two were cited for the work aimed at eliminating nuclear weapons by diminishing the role they played in international politics. Though it came on the 50th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the decision brought surprise and, in some cases, utter confusion, because not many people had heard of them.
Geir Lundestad, the nonvoting secretary of the committee, still chuckles about the absolute look of shock and confusion on the faces of reporters who gathered for the announcement. "Pugwhat?" was the buzz in the room.
___
Q: Who's on the committee that chooses the winner of the prize?
A: The committee has five members appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. The current members are Jagland, Sissel Roenbeck, Aagot Valle, Kaci Kullman Five and Inger-Marie Ytterhorn. The first three have backgrounds in Norway's political left, while Five and Ytterhorn are from the right.
Usually only Jagland speaks to the press, but AP was able to speak to all of them except Roenbeck. They all said the decision to honor Obama was unanimous.
___
Q: Who can nominate candidates for the award? And when were nominations due?
A: The committee accepts nominations from former peace prize winners; current and former members of the committee and their staff; members of national governments and parliaments; professors of law, theology, social sciences, history and philosophy; leaders of peace research and foreign affairs institutes; and members of international courts of law. The deadline for nominations was Feb. 1.
 
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AnnaG

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Here,readers digest version.
You guys will obviously keep this up for months if not years so I'll bow out now,it's really a non issue.
I didnt like Obama when he got in because I am against protectionism but the last few weeks I'm starting to like the guy,not bad for a one time Bush sr and Iraq war supporter.;-)
Link, or are you claiming to be the author?
 

AnnaG

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Quote: Why did President Barack Obama win the Nobel Prize? Does it have something to do with Afghanistan? Is the Nobel meant to reward accomplishments, or encourage future actions? What will the president do with the big cash prize?
From water coolers to Twitter feeds, Americans are buzzing with questions about the Peace Prize surprise. Here are some answers.
___
Q: Is the Norwegian Nobel Committee, by giving the award to Obama, trying to discourage him from sending more troops to Afghanistan?
A: Committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland told The AP that it was not explicitly trying to influence any change in Obama's thinking about committing more troops to Afghanistan. But by getting the prize, and the status it confers, Obama may find himself with more leeway — at least abroad, if not at home — to seriously debate and decide whether such a surge is needed.
___
Q: Could the Nobel committee be trying to influence other aspects of U.S. foreign policy?
A: Yes, even if it is not trying explicitly to do so. The committee said that Obama had engaged in "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy" and singled out his effort to "work for a world without nuclear weapons."
The Nobel Prize carries a certain aura and is bound to make Obama more relevant on the world stage, particularly when it comes to scaling back nuclear weapons amid concerns that Iran may be pursuing them. Iran maintains that it wants nuclear power only for peaceful purposes.
"The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations," the committee said.
___
Q: Why did the committee say it gave the prize to Obama?
A: The committee cited "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
They wanted to encourage his efforts to reach out to other countries and the United Nations to jointly address global issues. They singled out nuclear disarmament, but also said that thanks to Obama the United States is playing a more constructive role in efforts to fight climate change.
___
Q: Does the award typically have more to do with past accomplishments or with encouraging future efforts related to peace?
A: Both. The committee often uses the award to encourage and promote a cause or campaign. The awards to Al Gore and the U.N. panel on climate change in 2007, or in 1997 to anti-land mine activists, would fall into that category. Other years it honors people with a long history of peace work. Last year's prize to longtime peace mediator Martti Ahtisaari was almost like a lifetime achievement award.

___
Q: Did Obama accomplish anything prior to becoming president that may have contributed to his nomination?
A: It's hard to know if members of the committee were thinking about Obama's earlier accomplishments when they decided to award him the prize. But a lot of what they praised about him — like his calls for more international cooperation, a smaller world stock of nuclear arms, better U.S. relations with Muslim nations and stepped-up efforts to combat climate change — was prominent in his campaign speeches, long before he took the oath of office.
___
Q: Is the award likely to help Obama politically at home? Or could it hurt him?
A: The prize is not necessarily a big plus for Obama in the tricky U.S. political arena.
He won election last year in part because voters weary with the nation's battered image abroad were attracted to his promise of a new start. But Republicans have been criticizing Obama as being too much celebrity and too little action, and they immediately seized on this new praise to try to bring him down a peg.
From Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, for instance: "It is unfortunate that the president's star power has outshined tireless advocates who have made real achievements."
___
Q: Will Obama collect the prize in person?
A: Yes, the president plans to travel to Oslo, Norway, in December to accept the award.
___
Q: What is Obama going to do with the $1.4 million in prize money?
A: White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said the president will donate the cash award to charity. He said more than one charity will likely share the windfall, though Obama hasn't yet chosen specific ones.
___
Q: A lot of people — including some in the Obama administration — were surprised that the president won the award. Have past Nobel Peace Prize decisions been similarly surprising?
A: In 1995, the prize was shared by Joseph Rotblat and the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs. The two were cited for the work aimed at eliminating nuclear weapons by diminishing the role they played in international politics. Though it came on the 50th anniversary of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the decision brought surprise and, in some cases, utter confusion, because not many people had heard of them.
Geir Lundestad, the nonvoting secretary of the committee, still chuckles about the absolute look of shock and confusion on the faces of reporters who gathered for the announcement. "Pugwhat?" was the buzz in the room.
___
Q: Who's on the committee that chooses the winner of the prize?
A: The committee has five members appointed by the Norwegian Parliament. The current members are Jagland, Sissel Roenbeck, Aagot Valle, Kaci Kullman Five and Inger-Marie Ytterhorn. The first three have backgrounds in Norway's political left, while Five and Ytterhorn are from the right.
Usually only Jagland speaks to the press, but AP was able to speak to all of them except Roenbeck. They all said the decision to honor Obama was unanimous.
___
Q: Who can nominate candidates for the award? And when were nominations due?
A: The committee accepts nominations from former peace prize winners; current and former members of the committee and their staff; members of national governments and parliaments; professors of law, theology, social sciences, history and philosophy; leaders of peace research and foreign affairs institutes; and members of international courts of law. The deadline for nominations was Feb. 1.
That's an awful lot of prestige and money to pin on hopes.
 

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Re: President’s Nobel Peace Prize

I don’t understand why conservatives would be so upset by the president’s award; considering the fact that His Excellency openly considered that the award belonged to every United States citizen, the vitriol being directed toward the president is a cause for concern. Shouldn’t there be at least some sense of pride at the fact that an annual award, one where people are considered across the globe for the honour, was bestowed to an American. Where is the national pride and patriotism? Is pride, patriotism and the recognition of excellence only permissable during a Republican Party of the United States presidency?
 

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''Is pride, patriotism and the recognition of excellence only permissable during a Republican Party of the United States presidency? ''

The Republicans like to think so. But we patriots know better. :)