Think we can print enough
real money to stay solvent by 2012?
Thought you would like to see this, at least we know one of the sources to the rumor.
Here is a right wing assumption about Obama.
LaRouche: Obama Has Adopted Hitler's Program
May 14, 2009 (LPAC)--The evidence is overwhelming and conclusive. Obama has adopted Hitler's program. On Wednesday, Obama emerged from a meeting with Democratic leaders to say that "the stars are aligned" in support of passage by the House of his Nazi medical reform by the end of July. At a town meeting in New Mexico Obama insisted that "it's going to require some tough choices" to cut entitlement programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but that is what he is committed to doing.
At the National Socialist Party congress in 1934, Dr. Wagner declared: "The economic burden represented by people suffering from hereditary diseases is a danger for the State and for society. In all, it is necessary to spend 301 million Reichsmarks per year for treatment, without counting the expenditures for 200,000 drunkards and about 400,000 psychopaths."
In October 1939 Hitler issued an order, which he wrote in his own hand, backdated to the first day of the war, in September. In preparing it, he had stated that he "considered it to be proper that the 'life unworthy to life' of severely mentally ill persons be eliminated by actions that bring about death." Hitler later noted: "In this way, a certain saving in hospitals, doctors, and nursing personnel could be brought about." The title of Hitler's order was "The Destruction of Lives Unworthy of Life."
http://www.larouchepac.com/node/10241/pdf
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I haven't followed this thread in awhile and dont intend to go back and read every post. But just dropping in I saw this and would like to comment on it.
I see a few major flaw in the rhetoric comparing Obama's health care proposal with the Mazi health care model. Now I still don't know all the details of Obama's plan, and sinse it will likely involve collaboration between many parties, I'm guessing it will continue to change and mutate over the months too. So my criticism here has nothing to do with the details of Obama's plan or whether and in which way it compares to Hitler's model, but rather in the rehtoric itself, on the following fronts:
1. The idea that something is bad because Hitler did is is fundamentally flawed. To take but a few examples:
a) The Nazi Party was the first to pull his economy out of the Great Depression. Inasmuch as we can dispute the details of how he did that, we can't dispute that at least some principles of his policy would be worth borrowing on that front.
b) The Nazi Party placed a high value on public cleanliness and caring for the local environment as a sign of patriotism, something that would make the green parties of today proud.
c) Hitler was a teetotaller and a vegan, which shows that he did care for his health and wellbeing.
d) The German Autobahnen, developed under the Nazi regime, laid the groundwork for the modern highway systems of today!
e) Hitler and the Nazi Party placed a high emphasis on the physical wellbeing of German children.
To say that an idea is flawed just because the Nazis borrowed it is itself a fundamentally flawed idea.
2. The motive behind the reason Obama wants certain reforms is not nearly as evil as the behind Hitler's reforms. So even if the claim is true (I'll give the benefit of the doubt here) that Obama were developing a health care model similar to that of the Nazis (of which I know little), I don't see how that in and of itself is necessarily a bad thing. The more important question would be the motive behind Obama's desire to adopt such a model. There are plenty of examples in life of the same system being used for either good or evil.
So in the end, that rhetoric is quite meaningless.
By the way, I'm vegan and a teetotaller too, so would that make me a Nazi according to the same logic?
