Christianity and the Birth of Science

petros

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I got curious. Most of the time it takes more than that to get me to look into history.
It would have been impossible to create what they did as long ago as they did without science (applied gnosis) be it sphyxsters or making dye for clothing. Dye making is mixing minerals to make a compound. That is gnosis (science) at work. The recipes for dyes wee worth crazy wealth and respect in those days.

Small things like that easily get looked over.
 

L Gilbert

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It would have been impossible to create what they did as long ago as they did without science (applied gnosis) be it sphyxsters or making dye for clothing. Dye making is mixing minerals to make a compound. That is gnosis (science) at work. The recipes for dyes wee worth crazy wealth and respect in those days.

Small things like that easily get looked over.
I did mention the Chinese, you know: as in manufacturing paper, gunpowder, printing, compasses, acupuncture, etc. I didn't say I was ignorant of history; just not terribly interested in most of it.
 

Dexter Sinister

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These fell from the sky with no explanation because science didn't exist?
I'd have thought somebody trained in the sciences would know better than to try on that particular logical fallacy. Actually it's two fallacies: ridicule rather than argument, and it attacks something I didn't say. It wasn't science that built those anyway, it was just good rule of thumb engineering, but that's irrelevant to what I wrote. My point was, in response to the OP, that Christianity and the rise of science are unrelated, Christianity has in fact done its best to suppress free inquiry for most of its history. I'll try it again with emphasis on the key point: "Christianity was around for about 1500 years before real science reared its head anywhere in Christendom..." Apparently you missed those last three words.

Christianity was several millennia in the future when those monuments were built, so whatever the ancient Egyptians knew about science and engineering, Christianity had nothing to do with it. The material at the link in the OP tries to argue that Christianity was an essential prerequisite for modern science to develop, I'm saying that argument is wrong.
 

L Gilbert

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........Christianity has in fact done its best to suppress free inquiry for most of its history. ........
And is still trying with gusto sometimes.
........The material at the link in the OP tries to argue that Christianity was an essential prerequisite for modern science to develop, I'm saying that argument is wrong.
You're right.