US Increases It`s Slaughter In Afghanistan

[darkbeaver]

Did I say "I" "objected" to the video? Wasn't me that had it removed.

No you did not say you objected to the video while you were objecting to the video. Please accept my apology.

 

[MHz]

You are a f*cking idiot...... I fail to mourn the losses of the other side? I was f*ckin near banned from here last rememberance day....and there were many on here that wanted me banned, for posting pics of the dead from the "otherside" along side the pics that were posted comemorating the deaths from "ourside" to balance it out.

A sniper is a fact of war, that's what soldiers do. Do you want the fighters in Iraq and Afghan to march with a full piece band. The Brits rtried that in America and they got sniped for their stupidity

"I" object to ALL the f*ckin useless deaths..... not JUST deaths on one side or the other......

I can agree with that, but sniping is not a war crime, intentionally targeting civilians is.

YOU on the other hand are more interested in the "otherside"...f*ck what happens to our men and women.

Just shows how little you actually know. What is your position, support them even if they are in the wrong?

Just like the one sided crying for Palistinians, you don't give a f*cking rats ass about Isrealis, you have made THAT perfectly clear.

I see, I should leave Israel out of this but you can reference them.
Does that mean you overlook their crimes against civilians, the last instance could well get many beheaded at a strict war crime trial. Do you think somebody should let them know that? You seem to support any method that keeps them out of court but still allows wanton warfare against civilians.

Killing 6 as a provocation to have them retaliate with a few rockets into the desert so they can unload for a month makes them the bad-ones in my book. Even God would bitch-slap them for their current actions.

 

[MHz]

Did I say "I" "objected" to the video?

Lets count the posts you have made that reference that link compared to your complaints about cheering on the 147 civilian deaths. I would give one condemning post for the two that were serious about increasing civilian deaths (that would apply to Afghan, Iraq and Gaza). Legit fighting (sniping) has gotten more than a few condemning posts and it is not over yet.

 

[gerryh]

A sniper is a fact of war, that's what soldiers do. Do you want the fighters in Iraq and Afghan to march with a full piece band. The Brits rtried that in America and they got sniped for their stupidity


I can agree with that, but sniping is not a war crime, intentionally targeting civilians is.


Just shows how little you actually know. What is your position, support them even if they are in the wrong?


I see, I should leave Israel out of this but you can reference them.
Does that mean you overlook their crimes against civilians, the last instance could well get many beheaded at a strict war crime trial. Do you think somebody should let them know that? You seem to support any method that keeps them out of court but still allows wanton warfare against civilians.

Killing 6 as a provocation to have them retaliate with a few rockets into the desert so they can unload for a month makes them the bad-ones in my book. Even God would bitch-slap them for their current actions.

Still missing the point eh dummy........ YOU don't give a f*ck if anyone dies on this side of the table....you only care of someone dies on THAT side of the table....don't bother bringing God into this, hypocrite......

 

[darkbeaver]

A sniper is a fact of war, that's what soldiers do. Do you want the fighters in Iraq and Afghan to march with a full piece band. The Brits rtried that in America and they got sniped for their stupidity


I can agree with that, but sniping is not a war crime, intentionally targeting civilians is.


Just shows how little you actually know. What is your position, support them even if they are in the wrong?


I see, I should leave Israel out of this but you can reference them.
Does that mean you overlook their crimes against civilians, the last instance could well get many beheaded at a strict war crime trial. Do you think somebody should let them know that? You seem to support any method that keeps them out of court but still allows wanton warfare against civilians.

Killing 6 as a provocation to have them retaliate with a few rockets into the desert so they can unload for a month makes them the bad-ones in my book. Even God would bitch-slap them for their current actions.

What's she waiting for do you suppose?

 

[gerryh]

Lets count the posts you have made that reference that link compared to your complaints about cheering on the 147 civilian deaths. I would give one condemning post for the two that were serious about increasing civilian deaths (that would apply to Afghan, Iraq and Gaza). Legit fighting (sniping) has gotten more than a few condemning posts and it is not over yet.

There's "legit" fighting is there....

 

[MHz]

What's she waiting for do you suppose?

Because mercy says God can send them to hell for the shortest period of time.

 

[MHz]

Still missing the point eh dummy........ YOU don't give a f*ck if anyone dies on this side of the table....you only care of someone dies on THAT side of the table....don't bother bringing God into this, hypocrite......

Over 1,000,000 civilians killed via US influence and weapons of war since '91 in Iraq. A similar number (smaller due to less time there) That is not counting refugees (war crime).
How many Americans lives lost, 5,000 or so. They were sent there by their Gov on false pretenses and they intend on staying even though all original claims have been proved as being lies. How about the American public stop their deaths via retreat rather than every country they care to invade bow down and accept total defeat without any attempt to drive them away.

There's "legit" fighting is there....

Does the US and Israeli military employ the use of snipers or not? Have they been known to shoot children and women. Isn't Israels cartoon about a sniper targeting a very pregnant woman indicative of who their snipers can and do target?
hypocrite to condemn men fighting men using the means of war. My solution would include a long and lasting retreat, go home stay in your own yard for the next 100 years.

 

[gerryh]

Over 1,000,000 civilians killed via US influence and weapons of war since '91 in Iraq. A similar number (smaller due to less time there) That is not counting refugees (war crime).
How many Americans lives lost, 5,000 or so. They were sent there by their Gov on false pretenses and they intend on staying even though all original claims have been proved as being lies. How about the American public stop their deaths via retreat rather than every country they care to invade bow down and accept total defeat without any attempt to drive them away.

Why don't you look at all the numbers.... actually, the only thing it will prove is that mankind has no limit to the evil that it can bring against itself. Supporting one over the other does not give you the moral high ground.

Does the US and Israeli military employ the use of snipers or not? Have they been known to shoot children and women. Isn't Israels cartoon about a sniper targeting a very pregnant woman indicative of who their snipers can and do target?
hypocrite to condemn men fighting men using the means of war. My solution would include a long and lasting retreat, go home stay in your own yard for the next 100 years.

:roll:

 

[darkbeaver]

Because mercy says God can send them to hell for the shortest period of time.

Could that be any worse than the self-imposed hell they endure now I wonder?

 

[MHz]

Why don't you look at all the numbers.... actually, the only thing it will prove is that mankind has no limit to the evil that it can bring against itself. Supporting one over the other does not give you the moral high ground.

I actually started to do that, crunch numbers as far back as AD goes. A lot of general data can only be considered random averages since there is nothing to show it any closer. Today we can look up stats on a country and it will give details down to city and village. A deliberate flaw made in the data will still stand out because of all the various search qualities and for some a picture is worth more than 1,000 spreadsheets of only numbers.
I'm not claiming moral high ground, I can back the wrong horse if my info is flawed or if I ignore some point. Just because a horse named thursday was a good horse back in time does not mean a horse called thursday today is going to have the same fine qualities, he could be quite different.

Do you ever see both sides as being victims, being intentionally set up for the wealth of others? A lot is broadcast about the cost of war, what is left out is the interest. Even in a war of words both sides spend enormous amounts of money @ interest. In the end more money has to be borrowed to build up something for the survivors @ interest. The more wars the West is involved in the better our internal economies are, that is a perverted Nation right there. Where it become absolutely immoral is that it is by choice. Bankers finance wars with a bottomless purse @interest. Public work projects (salty James Bay water to Arizona as tap water) are absolutely forbidden as far as the banks are concerned. A depression is their way of starving off a few million here, a few more over there. Africa can become a free kill zone so they can manufacture more dollars and more weapons. A whole continent kept in perpetual poverty and bloodshed all the while just managing to export the cobalt and such that is imperative to the west's machine. All that is by choice, substitute money for the arms and the cobalt will flow the same. No extra money for the makers of the war machine if everybody is getting along. Paying off the top 10% is the usual american style. That isn't in the best interest of the people living there, those are the ones whose needs and views are the most important.

When the UN 181 was drafted it was people sitting around (luxury) in the US. Something like that has to be drafted in the place it is meant to impact, modified via the feedback from the people who are the 'voters'. Those 33 Nations do not hold more authority over that ground 1,000's of miles away that the ones who live there. No doubt the voters would outnumber the actual number of people who forced this on them. So much for our high moral ground (not that it was ever there). That only means we shouldn't be quick to comment on other Nation's violations.

The American pilot should have appeared before a Canadian Military Tribunal for trial. For the 147 nobody will even go to trial. Think how different their conduct would be if they had to appear before the survivors for trial before the graves are filled. That's getting along in the community isn't it?

 

[MHz]

Could that be any worse than the self-imposed hell they endure now I wonder?

Think of it this way, some are scrambling and clawing to get into Israel and some are making it. (the real bad ones are given sanctuary as they do not extradite anybody to anywhere), when hell is there everybody is trying much harder to go the other way and not a single one makes it. Blindness plays a roll in current events, in hell you will be missing your eye-lids and it gets worse every time you turn your head.

Other than that they are somewhat similar in some respects. LOL They still get a 'shorter sentence' than evil Gentiles.

 

[ironsides]

They weren't our men and women they were Yankees.

I suppose your a Met fan.
.

 

[ironsides]

Think of it this way, some are scrambling and clawing to get into Israel and some are making it. (the real bad ones are given sanctuary as they do not extradite anybody to anywhere), when hell is there everybody is trying much harder to go the other way and not a single one makes it. Blindness plays a roll in current events, in hell you will be missing your eye-lids and it gets worse every time you turn your head.

Other than that they are somewhat similar in some respects. LOL They still get a 'shorter sentence' than evil Gentiles.

And sick puppies.

 

[darkbeaver]

I suppose your a Met fan.
.

No I isn't.

 

[CDNBear]

I wonder if you would be viewed as a traitor to your people?

Absolutely. I've been called an "Apple" more then once. Been harassed, threatend and assaulted for speaking out against corruption, waste, theft and criminality in the leadership of many Native communities.

What have you done?

The way you cheer on the similar treatment going in other lands would certainly make you their enemy.

Make who my enemy? Criminals and Nazi's? I can live with that.

I would have loved to have seen the CND GVT stuck with the whole $100M court costs, after all it was their original document and since full knowledge was never passed on this was just getting clarity, they shouldn't have had to pay a dime.

You do know that the First Nations aren't one big 'tribe' eh?

So if they won a court battle tomorrow that made all the reservations Government institutions, and the People the rulers of the land I would try to get them to read and re-read the Geneva convention and then sign it, the current population would do the same thing they did in the last weeks.

And that has to do what with what?

What was the final remedy to the last mass 'accidental' killing, $250/head or some other trivial monetary gain (if ever actually ever paid).

8O

Did you know the pilot who let loose on those CND soldiers actually attempted to sue his own gov for 'mistreatment'' or something close?

And that has what to do with the post you quoted?

That doesn't exempt me from the crimes of the white-eyes though. That's doesn't mean I accept any decision Bear can dream up.

You can't 'accept'? You mean you can't grasp.

He's just proof that every segment of society can produce a walking talking contradiction. lol

Absolutely true, I'm self supportive, hard working, I hold my self accountable and responsible for my actions. Yet I'm Native, go figure. There's many more like me too.

How is saying women and kids are sent in to do the fighting justified when clearly there are other methods being employed to harass the invaders.

So you're saying using kids is ok?

How bout you go look at some snuffed out lives cause by american service men, what age do you want to start at, 3? 5? how about 12, certainly that age is shoot on sight in certain situations.

I don't care if it's fresh out of the box, if it's holding a weapon, three to the face, period.

So which point would you like more clarity on?

Since you haven't answered anything until now, clarity isn't an issue...but wait for it.

"Oh, so you bare no responsibility in the reaping and raping of my lands and my people?"

They were pretty much fuked over by the time I arrived. Adding a pile of whiskeys to the rodeo events didn't do much for the riding but the dance after was sure interesting. I didn't teach them to drink.

So what have you done to fix the problem?

"Who's land does YOUR house reside on?"

I pay taxes to somebody already so I am not the 'owner' of the land, I might have claim to the wood on the land though. I'd by just as happy to make the cheques payable to them.

The Gov't doesn't tell you who you can give your profits to. So how much of that timber profit is going the local Native community?

"Who's water is being poluted by the companies you purchase goods from?"

I don't think my pissing in a river in Alberta is making the fish go belly up in the Great Lakes.

I didn't say you did I? I asked if you bare any responsiblity for purchasing goods from companies that contribute to polution of Native lands.

"Who's forests have been decimated by logging companies to build your home, fill your books, bleach you printer paper?"

All the while not supporting hemp, fukers. Don't own, don't need printed material, brown or green is fine with me.

Cool, so you don't know that brown paper comes from trees to? I added the bleached part just to stump you, thanx for playing along...:lol:

"Who's people have been oppressed and sequestered so you could wander with out having to look at us?"

Actually they were my closest neighbors on more than one occasion. Mob mentality kept us apart at the bars but in the wild the forest was a common love so the times were more than just pleasant.

Really? How bigoted of you to say, thanx for clarifying your racism.

The ones your size, but muscle rather that fat,

Wow, you really seem ficsated on my size. How mature of you.

Funny how me at my size spends more time in the bush and on the lakes and rivers then you do. I guess size doesn't matter after all.

The ones your size, but muscle rather that fat, were used to keep the forestry away from 'their kills'. After two times they just starting to phone him at home asking when he was going to get that deer that must have dropped off his hood at such and such a spot. LOL

Why do you continuously type out fractured sentences? All I got from this is, you condone illegal hunting. How nice of you. Theft of wildlife and resourses is a crime against humaity, no matter the colour of ones skin. Period.

"Oh ya, you are low down on the ladder of responsibility...in your own eyes I guess."

DOH, look who I'm talking with. That is a fundamental difference between us, I know chatting with you makes me appear to be stupid, you think you appear as smart to be chatting up somebody you see as your inferior. lol

Incorrect, you are just fundamentally stupid, where I am just simple smarter then you, hence why you revert to insults and comments about my weight how that must somehow make me slower and not capable of living life to its fullest. How bigited and ignorant of you to admit.

That would appear to mathematically make you twice as stipid.

If you say so. With every post you make, you expose more and more of your bigotry, subtle racism and ignorance. I think I'ld rather be considered 'stupid' by someone like you then a friend.

Congradulations, that reminds me, I'm almost straight.:smile:

Really? I couldn't tell.

 

[MHz]

I don't care if it's fresh out of the box, if it's holding a weapon, three to the face, period.

Got a magic trick for you....poof and you become a bag of dung.........poof..

 

[Socrates the Greek]

War sucks........ killing sucks....

 

[CDNBear]

Got a magic trick for you....poof and you become a bag of dung.........poof..

And of course, you can't reply with anything of substance, so just resort to insults alone...

And again, thanx for coming out and allowing me the pleasure of watching you make yourself look stupid.

War sucks........

Yes it does.

killing sucks....

Yes it does. Though I've never actually taken a human life. I have inflicted serious injury to several people of the years Soc. At one point I had a life altering experience, I took my St. John's First Aid and up graded it continuously, used it several times to promote healing and even once saved a life. Call it making amends for the hurt I have caused.

 

[MHz]

"Absolutely. I've been called an "Apple" more then once. Been harassed, threatend and assaulted for speaking out against corruption, waste, theft and criminality in the leadership of many Native communities.

What have you done?"
Re-read my post. Let me guess you got almost nowhere. How deeply did you investigate the Federal Division of the Canadian Govt? What you got is an example of what us white-eyes have been using on minorities for a very long time. Reservations or total anniliation was a matter of fact when the men with boats first discovered there were already some people in the Americas (First Nation People) Fur Traders were as much a victim as the Natives (the poorest people in Europe are who they brought over to fight their proxy war and some got very rich ding it. The real bitches were the ones buying and selling, money-changers. So the corruption down at the community level is most likely inspired by the 'not so noble' bankers, that's who owns the boats. Nor did we fight your warriors, we killed off your food supply so your old and very young would starve and freeze in the winter.
I don't have to be Native to see they were shafted since day one and it isn't going to end for the Natives left anytime soon. Reservations should be showcases to the world on how well people do from doing business with us white-eyes, instead we hid them from ourselves and certainly from international Human Rights Groups.
Reservations are not governed by Natives, they are a creation of Ottawa. Ottawa is a creation of Britain. Look at their treatment of 'foreign minorities' over the last 1,000 years, that is who the model was for the things you just describes.

If things were run that way between tribes before white-men's ways then disregard the above, if it can be considered partly true then get them some recent videos that challenge the media version of truth and what others say is the actual truth. Money Masters covers banking, the History of the CIA might be another program the leaders might find. Course it helps if you can see things that way.

Don't reply cause it won't be answered.