Anthem ban 'political correctness run wild': Conservative MP

Should Schools be able to:

  • Choose if they Play the Anthem

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Always play the Anthem

    Votes: 18 62.1%
  • Never play the Anthem

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Total voters
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Machjo

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May peace forever be our lot,
And plenteous store abound:
And may those ties of love be ours
Which discord cannot sever,

Certainly more peaceful than:

Ô Canada!
Terre de nos aïeux,
Ton front est ceint de fleurons glorieux!
Car ton bras sait porter l'épée,
Il sait porter la croix!
Ton histoire est une épopée
Des plus brillants exploits.
Et ta valeur, de foi trempée,
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits
Protégera nos foyers et nos droits.

For those who don't know French, trust me, the English version is quite peaceful compared to this. Here's the English translation of the French version of O Canada:

O Canada!
Land of our forefathers
Thy brow is wreathed with a glorious garland of flowers.
As in thy arm ready to wield the sword,
So also is it ready to carry the cross.
Thy history is an epic of the most brilliant exploits.
Thy valour steeped in faith
Will protect our homes and our rights
Will protect our homes and our rights.

This is a tame translation, as 'steeped' could just as easily be translated as 'soaked', whiich can give an impression of equating faith with bloody sacrifice on the field of battle.
 

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First time I read the lyrics to Maple Leaf forever. One issue I see with it is that it has a certain imperial slant to it, but at least parts of the song aren't so bad.
 

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And, the French version of O Canada is much more powerful than the English. But, it has a slight Catholic flavour to it; but, hey, Canada is a Catholic country. Statistics Canada info provided on request.
 

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First time I read the lyrics to Maple Leaf forever. One issue I see with it is that it has a certain imperial slant to it, but at least parts of the song aren't so bad.

"As in thy arm ready to wield the sword,
So also is it ready to carry the cross."

Sounds like a throwback to the Crusades. Bear in mind though that the French version has undergone less revision than the English, which might explain its outdated ideas. The English version has undergone more revision, and even today continues to have a tradition of proposed revisions, which is much less existent in the French version possibly owing to less care for it among many sovereignists.
 

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lol Most federal workers are French or French speaking. By far, the most common faith among the French people is Catholicism.

True.And among English-pseakers, Anglicanism. So what's the big deal? Both are Christian, just different branches. I'm both French-speaking and English-speaking. My mother is Franco-Ontarian and my father British. My father is Anglican and my mother Catholic. I profess neither. Not even the Christian Faith in the broadest sense.
 

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Many French-speakers in Montreal have adopted alternative Faiths such as Islam and the Baha'i Faiths too, both of which are growing not only through high birth rates, but through conversion too. So it's not so easy to just generalize even though there is some legitimate truth to it in a general sense.
 

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True.And among English-pseakers, Anglicanism. So what's the big deal? Both are Christian, just different branches. I'm both French-speaking and English-speaking. My mother is Franco-Ontarian and my father British. My father is Anglican and my mother Catholic. I profess neither. Not even the Christian Faith in the broadest sense.
What's the big deal? Nothing. But, you asked me how StatsCan is Catholic. So I replied. But the topic of this thread is about the anthem and being politically correct, not language.
 

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True.And among English-pseakers, Anglicanism. So what's the big deal? Both are Christian, just different branches. I'm both French-speaking and English-speaking. My mother is Franco-Ontarian and my father British. My father is Anglican and my mother Catholic. I profess neither. Not even the Christian Faith in the broadest sense.


I am hesitant to correct you, but the largest denomination in English Canada is Catholicism by a country league. The Anglican Church has all but disappeared. Pity, you say?
 

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In Edmonton, for example, Catholicism is at 40%.
Quick Canadian fact
"Over the period of 1961 to 2001 the Canadian region of the worldwide Anglican Church has lost 53% of its members, with numbers declining from 1.36 million to just 642,000." Anglican Church Statistics That's 1.9% of the Canadian population.
 

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lol Another funny thing is that Anglicanism is non-traditional Catholicism. It stemmed from people back then being progressive and the RC church insisting on remaining archaic. (or at least that's what I understand).
 
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lol Most federal workers are French or French speaking. By far, the most common faith among the French people is Catholicism.

I guess you must live in Quebec. There are very few French people employed in the Federal Gov't outside of Quebec, Northern NB and Eastern Ontario