Conservatives and Rightists... Disgrace to Canada

rd1331

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You said proof....lets see you come up with some.

And who is doing these crimes? One can't blame a provincial government for what a federal government mandates.
So are you saying one group or ethnicity is doing the crimes. Thats pretty discriminatory and racist if you as me. Not all laws are federal, not all crimes are federal, alot of the crimse that people get away with in the province are under Provincial Law.

Addiction. What more do you have to say?
...or moving those jobs to some place where the profit margin is a little better - where they don't have to pay union rate or for safety or for anti pollution measures.
Absolutely, it is there high. And what jobs have been moved over seas, we're not the US just incase you didn't know. We haven't had the outflux of jobs like in the US. So as you said Proof, where is the Proof. You're the one making allegations. Innocent until proven guilty ... remember?
And the consumers of today are to blame. I work in an industry that has been destroyed more by the greed of the Consumers than by the greed of the Corporations. Today everyone wants everything for cheap, its the new thing. Airline prices haven't risen in over 10 year and in most cases have dropped, while the cost of running an airline has more than doubled. And this goes for many many industries. Prices of Cars have dropped Huge (taking inflation into account), because the Consumers have driven it there. Consumers are too blame for more products being made overseas, they want everything for CHEAP.

If they're not working, let 'em starve...
You really like putting words in peoples mouths. Why don't you just read what I wrote instead of making stuff up for me. Once again You're the one making allegations. Innocent until proven guilty ... remember? So please prove with what I have wrote, that is what I said and meant.

What about in a time like when the government trades away good-paying industrial jobs for minimum wage ones? Volvo for Wal-Mart? Weyerhauser for McDonalds? ...or puts sawmill workers out of work in bad softwood lumber deals or in the appeasement of Quebec (Tembec) It that sound economy thinking ... or another sell-out?
Good-Paying Industrial Jobs that are going bankrupt and cannot support themselves anymore. So your saying we should basically Nationalize any business that is industrial just so the people that work for that failing business don't loose there jobs. If a business cannot support itself, then why throw good money at bad money. The Softwood lumber issue was horrible and we probably agree on that issue, it was dispicable what happened there.

When it's an emergency situation, who really wants to wait in line? We all panic in different ways. Do you know the details ... or was that just propagandized?
It wasn't an emergency, in an emergency you don't go to a clinic, you go to the emergency room, and if its that bad of an emergency you call the ambulance which is what the Clinic would have done if it was an emergency. It was not, and he even admitted it during the English Debate, watch it again if you want. But what your saying is you do agree with privatised clinics if it where a Emergency. So your saying we should privatise Emergency rooms, since you said "When its an emergency situation, who really wants to wait in line." So you are for Privatisation then?

You may have lived in those countries ... but you obviously don't live their reality so who are you to judge? It's the judgements of they who use themselves as the gauge to measure others by that are the biggest of roadblocks. In other words ... open minded is less hindrance than open-mouthed.
Actually I did live there life, I went down there with no cash to open my eyes to reality. Obviously you haven't done the same. It's the judgements of they who use themselves as the gauge to measure others by that are the biggest of roadblocks. Big words, but doesn't mean anything. The truth is people died from malnutrition, and deseases that are completely curable. So your right open minded is less hindrance than open-mouthed, you should read that again for yourself maybe it will sink in for you.

Why should anyone be rewarded for being incompetent? In the working world, they'd become unemployed. I donno, ask yourself that.
 

rd1331

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That's a line you and your civil service buddies should ALL have to stand in. You know the sign I hate the most at the stupid end of that line? The one that says WE CARE

Awesome. Same thing can be said for a lot of other unions. How do you come up with that. I just about fell off my chair.
 

rd1331

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I guess yours only goes far enough to write one liners. Considering that is all you have contributed to this. Must be horrible for you.
 

rd1331

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Well LW asked for proof too all my comments. And I have provided proof. So wouldn't say I wrote a whole page to say nothing. 17-34 Billion......etc.
 

rd1331

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So I asked you for some proof. Since I provided mine when you asked. Why don't you reply to mine, and this time provide proof.
 

rd1331

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The point is this.

I said biggest debt. you said prove. I did.
I said letting criminals free. you said prove. I did.
I said Using privatised health care. you said prove. I did.

You haven't yet proved one of your comments. Not one.

So the point is this...your a lot of talk, but thats about all. When it comes to proving your point, you can't.
 

scratch

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The point is this.

I said biggest debt. you said prove. I did.
I said letting criminals free. you said prove. I did.
I said Using privatised health care. you said prove. I did.

You haven't yet proved one of your comments. Not one.

So the point is this...your a lot of talk, but thats about all. When it comes to proving your point, you can't.

Still haven't a clue.
 

lone wolf

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You said proof....lets see you come up with some.

And who is doing these crimes? One can't blame a provincial government for what a federal government mandates.
So are you saying one group or ethnicity is doing the crimes. Thats pretty discriminatory and racist if you as me. Not all laws are federal, not all crimes are federal, alot of the crimse that people get away with in the province are under Provincial Law.

Ahh! The old "Racist!" rhetort. Throw the shame and play the game. Damn the truth and facts.... No ... I asked "Who?..." You interpreted it. You said it. If you want to believe something else, go ahead. I should expect nothing less if you've no better answer. Whatever makes you comfortable...

Addiction. What more do you have to say?
...or moving those jobs to some place where the profit margin is a little better - where they don't have to pay union rate or for safety or for anti pollution measures.
Absolutely, it is there high.

Win at any cost.... What's your worth to them?

And what jobs have been moved over seas,

Do they have the TV news in your world? It's easy. Look for a place called Google Keywords: sourcing out, offshore venture, factory closure.

we're not the US just incase you didn't know. We haven't had the outflux of jobs like in the US.

And how do you spell Free Trade?

So as you said Proof, where is the Proof. You're the one making allegations. Innocent until proven guilty ... remember?
And the consumers of today are to blame. I work in an industry that has been destroyed more by the greed of the Consumers than by the greed of the Corporations. Today everyone wants everything for cheap, its the new thing. Airline prices haven't risen in over 10 year and in most cases have dropped, while the cost of running an airline has more than doubled. And this goes for many many industries. Prices of Cars have dropped Huge (taking inflation into account), because the Consumers have driven it there. Consumers are too blame for more products being made overseas, they want everything for CHEAP.

If they're not working, let 'em starve...
You really like putting words in peoples mouths. Why don't you just read what I wrote instead of making stuff up for me. Once again You're the one making allegations. Innocent until proven guilty ... remember? So please prove with what I have wrote, that is what I said and meant.

What about in a time like when the government trades away good-paying industrial jobs for minimum wage ones? Volvo for Wal-Mart? Weyerhauser for McDonalds? ...or puts sawmill workers out of work in bad softwood lumber deals or in the appeasement of Quebec (Tembec) It that sound economy thinking ... or another sell-out?
Good-Paying Industrial Jobs that are going bankrupt and cannot support themselves anymore. So your saying we should basically Nationalize any business that is industrial just so the people that work for that failing business don't loose there jobs.

No ... YOU said that....

If a business cannot support itself, then why throw good money at bad money.

If the business is failing, you ask why. You remember there are people in the community who depend on you. You remember your own reputation will be determined by all the bad PR you're going to piddle on that image when you close the doors and steal the machinery. You cut costs where you have to. You cut contracts for they who'll cut deals. You break even or break.

The Softwood lumber issue was horrible and we probably agree on that issue, it was dispicable what happened there.


When it's an emergency situation, who really wants to wait in line? We all panic in different ways. Do you know the details ... or was that just propagandized?
It wasn't an emergency, in an emergency you don't go to a clinic, you go to the emergency room, and if its that bad of an emergency you call the ambulance which is what the Clinic would have done if it was an emergency. It was not, and he even admitted it during the English Debate, watch it again if you want. But what your saying is you do agree with privatised clinics if it where a Emergency.

Where is your dentist?

So your saying we should privatise Emergency rooms, since you said "When its an emergency situation, who really wants to wait in line."

Again ... YOU said that.

So you are for Privatisation then?

Don't quit your day job....

Actually I did live there life, I went down there with no cash to open my eyes to reality. Obviously you haven't done the same.

Do you walk to school or take a lunch?

Big words, but doesn't mean anything. The truth is people died from malnutrition, and deseases that are completely curable. So your right open minded is less hindrance than open-mouthed, you should read that again for yourself maybe it will sink in for you.

Actually, it means you don't know what lays beyond your own nose. near a half dozen times in this very post, you have assumed to know my thoughts by assuming my response would be yours. I am not you. You are not me. Can ye see where we're headed here?...

I donno, ask yourself that.

In case you hadn't noticed ... I have - many times.
 

rd1331

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And who is doing these crimes?
Ok i bite. Who do you mean by saying "WHO" then? These aren't my words they are yours. You divided the conversation into "Who" not me. So if you don't mean a specific group what do you mean by "Who?"

...or moving those jobs to some place where the profit margin is a little better - where they don't have to pay union rate or for safety or for anti pollution measures.
How many products are made in Canada and shipped to other countries. Remember we export more than we import. Isn't that like outsourcing jobs to Canada from other countries? Think globaly.

Do they have the TV news in your world? It's easy. Look for a place called Google Keywords: sourcing out, offshore venture, factory closure.
Name some. You still haven't proved it, you just wrote a sentance.

And how do you spell Free Trade?
Good concept but not one of our governments has had the balls to stand up for what it actually means. As I said we probably have the same oppinion on this. Stand up for Canada or get out. Canada has the high ground on this one now, the US needs it more than we do. Although there are lots of jobs in Canada that do depend on it. There is still room for MUCH improvement.

What about in a time like when the government trades away good-paying industrial jobs for minimum wage ones? Volvo for Wal-Mart? Weyerhauser for McDonalds? ...or puts sawmill workers out of work in bad softwood lumber deals or in the appeasement of Quebec (Tembec) It that sound economy thinking ... or another sell-out?
You seem to forget what you wrote. These are your words NOT mine. If the good paying industry is going bankrupt, then let it go bankrupt. AC has been bailed out by the government so many times its not even funny. People think they bought Canadian to help out. They didn't, they had to otherwise they where going bankrupt. And they still can't make money, WJ is making heaps. Let the free market decide the winners and loosers, proping up failing industries does nothing, you continually will have to prop them up year after year.

Where is your dentist?
What does this have to do with the fact Jack Layton went to a privitised clinic for care and says he is against privatisation.

"When its an emergency situation, who really wants to wait in line."
Once again, these are your words not mine. So what do you mean by "Who really wants to wait in line" if you don't mean lets go to the private clinic next door?

Actually, it means you don't know what lays beyond your own nose. near a half dozen times in this very post, you have assumed to know my thoughts by assuming my response would be yours. I am not you. You are not me. Can ye see where we're headed here?...
Actually these are your words.
You may have lived in those countries ... but you obviously don't live their reality so who are you to judge? It's the judgements of they who use themselves as the gauge to measure others by that are the biggest of roadblocks. In other words ... open minded is less hindrance than open-mouthed
So once again read what you said and maybe let it sink in. You have assumed things of me, but you obviously don't live their reality so who are you to judge?. So get off your high horse and come back to reality. Out of that experience I give just over 10% of my Gross income to charities, how much do you give. I am much closer to reality than you most likely are when it comes to the 3rd world. How much work have you done in the 3rd world, direct hands on hands work. How many years have you worked in 3rd world countries on your own dime to do what you can for people. So don't even assume you know what I have done in the 3rd world to do my part. I have done more than most, and will continue to do so for as long as I live. It's the judgements of they who use themselves as the gauge to measure others by that are the biggest of roadblocks. So read this to yourself a couple times, as many as it takes to get over your roadblocks.
 

lone wolf

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Ok i bite. Who do you mean by saying "WHO" then? These aren't my words they are yours. You divided the conversation into "Who" not me. So if you don't mean a specific group what do you mean by "Who?"

What percentages? I'm in Ontario. What do I know of specifics in Manitoba? We had an NDP government here too ... but there was no increase in crime because of it. If you want to turn it into a racial thing, that's your issue.



How many products are made in Canada and shipped to other countries. Remember we export more than we import. Isn't that like outsourcing jobs to Canada from other countries? Think globaly.

With foreign ownership, high cost and poorer quality product, it's getting fewer all the time

Why is it so much cheaper to mine iron and coal in Canada, ship the raw materials to Japan where it can be processed and manufactured, then shipped back as finished product than it is to process our own steel here?


Name some. You still haven't proved it, you just wrote a sentance.

Volvo, John Deere, Weherhauser.... A lot of Ford and GM. Do the words Hencho in Mexico mean your F-150 or Silverando came from Oakville or Oshawa?


Where is your dentist?
What does this have to do with the fact Jack Layton went to a privitised clinic for care and says he is against privatisation.

"When its an emergency situation, who really wants to wait in line."
Once again, these are your words not mine. So what do you mean by "Who really wants to wait in line" if you don't mean lets go to the private clinic next door?

Actually, it means you don't know what lays beyond your own nose. near a half dozen times in this very post, you have assumed to know my thoughts by assuming my response would be yours. I am not you. You are not me. Can ye see where we're headed here?...
Actually these are your words.
You may have lived in those countries ... but you obviously don't live their reality so who are you to judge? It's the judgements of they who use themselves as the gauge to measure others by that are the biggest of roadblocks. In other words ... open minded is less hindrance than open-mouthed
So once again read what you said and maybe let it sink in. You have assumed things of me, but you obviously don't live their reality so who are you to judge?. So get off your high horse and come back to reality. Out of that experience I give just over 10% of my Gross income to charities, how much do you give. I am much closer to reality than you most likely are when it comes to the 3rd world. How much work have you done in the 3rd world, direct hands on hands work. How many years have you worked in 3rd world countries on your own dime to do what you can for people. So don't even assume you know what I have done in the 3rd world to do my part. I have done more than most, and will continue to do so for as long as I live. It's the judgements of they who use themselves as the gauge to measure others by that are the biggest of roadblocks. So read this to yourself a couple times, as many as it takes to get over your roadblocks.

The simple fact you were free to leave that third world country and return to the land of the all night Instant Teller tells me you have not LIVED their reality ... only seen it from the perspective of someone who has means of escape.


Okay ... I get the message. "It's my way or the highway". Name calling means you have no answer because you don't like to be questioned. Conversation ended.

Bye bye...
 
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rd1331

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The simple fact was that I stayed there for over 2 years, I didn't go tomorrow I can leave so everything i'm doing is a waste of time. You don't know where I came from, where my family is from, and how I got here. You are assuming I was born here.

You keep saying that I'm putting words in your mouth, read your posts its completely the opposite.

Its not my way or the highway, you have continuously put words in My mouth. When i asked a question such as you saying "WHO" when it came to crime in manitoba. You come back saying i'm racist. You are the one who said "Who" divided the conversation into the WHO relm, I simply asked what you meant by it and you still have not given a responce. You did say percentages....percentages of what? Of Who?

When I came back with a question about something you just completely ignored it or said I was putting words in your mouth. Why don't you start answering the questions instead of making things up to get around answering them.
 
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