"I will never leave Guantanamo"

JBeee

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By Sabin Willett
December 3, 2007
"WE HAVE important news for you!"
Chained to the floor of a cell in Camp Six, Guantanamo, Joseph said nothing. But he had some news for us, too.

The Court of Appeals had decided what record - what pieces of paper - it would examine when it considered his "Detainee Treatment Act" case. This was big. For months, we urged the Bush administration to release its exculpatory evidence about Joseph. The administration fought back hard. And we'd won - a brilliant victory!

"What do they say - these papers?" Joseph asked.

An awkward pause followed. We didn't exactly have them yet. The government had moved for reconsideration, filed affidavits, more briefs. There might be further appeals. It was complicated. The order came down in July, and now it was October. They hadn't produced a page. But it was a great victory!

Joseph listened in silence. During six years of US imprisonment he's heard this sort of thing before. All this talk from American lawyers about American courts - in Camp Six a man can't be sure that American courts exist at all, but if they do, it is certain that nothing ever comes of them but essays. No one alleges that Joseph was ever a terrorist, or a soldier, or a criminal. The military told him in 2002 he was innocent. Again in 2003. Again in 2006. He filed a habeas petition in 2005. He would be gone if the military could find a country to take him.

When Senator Joseph Lieberman and the other guardians of freedom in Congress stripped his habeas rights, he filed a Detainee Treatment Act petition. That was 11 months ago.
For two years and three months he'd been asking the federal judiciary to hear a few simple facts. No judge ever has.

"I also have something important to tell you," Joseph said. "About my wife."

What came next was deeply personal. (It is why I use "Joseph," a pseudonym for this good husband.) A Muslim, he does not like to speak to me of such personal things. But he had no choice. Camp Six is complete isolation. The men call it the dungeon above the ground. He is held alone in a metal cell, denied any contact with companions, books, news, the world - with his wife or child.

North Korea used this isolation technique against our airmen in 1952. We know a good idea when we see it, so the taxpayers paid $30 million to Dick Cheney's former company to duplicate North Korea.

The bunks had to be filled. Joseph got one. And so a message through me was the only way he could do his duty by her.
"I want you to tell her that it is time for her . . .. to move on."
"You mean . . .?"
"Yes. I will never leave Guantanamo."

His affect was flat, his voice soft. He looked up only once, when he said to me, urgently, "She must understand I am not abandoning her. That I love her. But she must move on with her life. She is getting older."

We are all getting older. Guantanamo is now far older than any World-War-II POW camp. Hope fled the sunless gloom of Camp Six long ago.

Joseph slips with the others down isolation's slope. He stands in the twilight. Beyond, the darkness of insanity beckons. He seems ready to surrender to it.

Somewhere in a file drawer in Guantanamo is a copy of the memo that clears Joseph for release. But it was written in 2006, and is as forgotten as he is. So the good husband did the last thing a man in isolation can do. He set his wife free from her husband's prison.

Not to worry, Joseph! Our federal judges are at their posts! They are making important rulings in your case - earnestly debating the important question of which pieces of paper to look at!

Sabin Willett is a partner at Bingham McCutchen, which represents prisoners at the Guantanamo prison.
 

JBeee

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Me thinks it won`t be long when that silence/indifference will be broken....hopefully sooner than later. Then stand back and watch them whine.....again, `what did we ever do to deserve this??` :roll:
 

Logic 7

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and where are Colpy, toro and ITN on those issue?


oh i see, they are too busy to find article about how muslim are bad.
 

EagleSmack

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Ahhhh... the innocent detainees. All were working for the Red Cresent building orphanages and helping the poor.
 

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Ahhhh... the innocent detainees. All were working for the Red Cresent building orphanages and helping the poor.
Smack, buddy, breakfast genius and comrade, we usually wait till the trials over and the beak has spoken a quilty or a not. Why don't we give these unfortunates thier day in court? I sn't due process whatwe expect in democracys? How can a democracy deny democratic proceedure provided under law that your countrymen fight and die for this very day? Something stinks about that does it not?:smile:
 

darkbeaver

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Ahhhh... the innocent detainees. All were working for the Red Cresent building orphanages and helping the poor.
Smack, buddy, breakfast genius and comrade, we usually wait till the trials over and the beak has spoken a quilty or a not. Why don't we give these unfortunates thier day in court? I'm perplexed that the men and women of your nation who fight and die to preserve due process under law when that due process is denied others through institutions extrajudicial rien over the planet. When will you empathise with these detainees? I hope you won't wait till your afforded the position of a cell to contemplate, the legislation is in place. Now what are you having for lunch?:smile:
 
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earth_as_one

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At least ES had the balls to respond. Unfortunately he had nothing meaningful to add.

I see no sign that the next group of people running the US will make substantive changes. These people will continue to use fear to convince us to allow them to take away basic freedoms and rights.
 

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Ahhhh... the innocent detainees. All were working for the Red Cresent building orphanages and helping the poor.

That is the stupidest argument I have ever heard! They aren't criminals! And your position that their incarceration is justifiable is based on what?
 

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That is the stupidest argument I have ever heard! They aren't criminals! And your position that their incarceration is justifiable is based on what?

They are criminals. Look who wrote the article...she represents them! Do you think she will do anything but try to get her client off. Lawyers are paid to do that whether their client is guilty or not. These guys chose to pick up a gun and fight. They got caught. It was all fun and game and glorious jihad until they ended up at GITMO. Now they are all innocent victims. Is it a stupid agrument? I think not because they have a webpage and they are all described as innocent victims that were helping the poor and helping to build orphanges.
 

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They are criminals. Look who wrote the article...she represents them! Do you think she will do anything but try to get her client off. Lawyers are paid to do that whether their client is guilty or not. These guys chose to pick up a gun and fight. They got caught. It was all fun and game and glorious jihad until they ended up at GITMO. Now they are all innocent victims. Is it a stupid agrument? I think not because they have a webpage and they are all described as innocent victims that were helping the poor and helping to build orphanges.


They are criminals? When did the trials take place? How is it everyone managed to miss that? Were they ALL found guilty? What was the sentence? What branch of the judiciary was used?
 

EagleSmack

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They are criminals? When did the trials take place? How is it everyone managed to miss that? Were they ALL found guilty? What was the sentence? What branch of the judiciary was used?

You know what Gerry...that is a great point and I will retract the "criminal" accusation. See I unlike many will admit when I made a wrong statement. I will not spin it into something else and run away for an error that I made. So I stand corrected.

With that said...they are enemy combatants and they were caught. All of the rest of the statement/post I stand by.
 

earth_as_one

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Enemy combatants. That's hilarious. Which international treaty defines that? They were captured in war. That makes them POWs. Geneva conventions should apply.
 
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EagleSmack

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So the Geneva Convention states that they should have a trial and representation? You are in a very gray area are you not?