Latest problem with Obamacare. Too many people now have access to healthcare.


BornRuff
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In what is clearly the worst problem yet, millions of the formerly uninsured now have health insurance.

Wave Of Newly Insured Patients Strains Oregon Health Plan

Wave Of Newly Insured Patients Strains Oregon Health Plan : Shots - Health News : NPR

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Millions of Americans who didn't have health insurance last year now do because of the Affordable Care Act.

In Lane County, Oregon, Trillium Community Health Plan is struggling to deal with a huge influx of new patients looking for health care. CEO Terry Coplin says the company figured 26,000 people would sign up in the first few years. Instead, about that many signed up right off the bat.

"We weren't expecting to get such a large assignment of patients in the first two months," says Coplin. "These patients who are coming onto the program — many have not seen a physician for years. We're dealing with not just a large number of patients, but also what appears to be a much sicker population of patients."

Cheryl Stumph is one of them. She and her husband, Mike, run Green Streak Automotive, an all-service garage in Veneta, Ore.

"Cars and trucks and tractors and generators and lawn mowers and boats and motor homes, and I think the only thing I haven't done is an airplane, so far," she says.

Last November, Stumph's 27-year-old son had a stroke and died at the wheel of his tow truck. The stroke stemmed from a genetic problem, so Stumph spent the winter worrying about her six other kids.

Kyle Thompson and his family are all going to have health coverage in Oregon, thanks to the state's successful effort to enroll people in Medicaid.
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Genetic testing is expensive, and she didn't have health insurance. But now she and her family get Medicaid through Trillium Health.

"That was really relieving," Stumph says. "You know, because we can check on the other kids and maybe not lose them. Oh, my God, we're 50 and aren't there things we're supposed to do at this age of our lives? And, you know, we're doing it, and it's great. It just gives you hope."

She's thrilled to be able to get a mammogram and treatment for a stubborn infection. The kids can get genetic testing. She says her husband has a chronic medical problem that needs attention, too.

Stories like Stumph's are being repeated across Oregon. Trillium Health is overwhelmed.

Trillium's Coplin says the health plan has come up with a four-part plan to deal with this unexpected influx.

First, it will pay bonuses to doctors who accept new patients covered by Trillium.

Second, Trillium is giving Lane County $900,000 to open a new clinic in an existing building. "They have proposed ways that they can get this clinic up and running by mid-year," says Coplin.

Third, Trillium is hiring a consultant to see if existing clinics can increase efficiency, for example, by changing who fills out forms. "Having physicians do clerical work is really a waste of valuable resources," Coplin says.

And finally, Trillium is offering $500,000 to any clinic or group of physicians willing to expand their practice to take on another 5,000 adult patients.

Meanwhile, Trillium is making some short-term fixes to help new enrollees find a doctor in the area.

Coplin says if people suffer serious accidents, they can go to the emergency room. If the injuries are less serious, they can go to urgent care.

But someone suffering a minor complaint can fall through the cracks.

Lane County Public Health Officer Dr. Patrick Luedtke thinks Trillium's plans will probably work, but he's anxious about those cracks.

"We have a shrinking pool of providers, and we have a growing need, in an aging population, for health care," he said. "So we need to get creative, and that's what we're doing."

Stumph is pleased to be getting treatment, but there have been hitches. "It took a month, I think, to get the first appointment for my husband," she says.

They've been to several appointments and the doctor told Cheryl she'd have to give up smoking, get a little more exercise and follow all the usual doctor recommendations. She says she's working on it.

This story is part of a partnership with NPR, Oregon Public Broadcasting and Kaiser Health News.

 
EagleSmack
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NPR ! The mouth piece of the US Libs!

 
mentalfloss
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Like it or not, Obamers is going to be remembered for this move as his crowning achievement.
 
pgs
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Like it or not, Obamers is going to be remembered for this move as his crowning achievement.

Yup right up there with Jimmy Carter as worst president in history .
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Yup right up there with Jimmy Carter as worst president in history .

Well it depends on who you ask.

Educated people look at this more favourably.

 
EagleSmack
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Ahhhh... the white lib elite approve!



Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Yup right up there with Jimmy Carter as worst president in history .

He's already relieved old Jimmy from that spot!
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

In what is clearly the worst problem yet, millions of the formerly uninsured now have health insurance.


of course they have.

Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post


Ann Coulter ‏@AnnCoulter

Real Obamacare sign-up #s (from Rand): 1.4 million. The rest were either thrown off old insurance or got Medicaid. http://tws.io/1oK9xKr

 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

of course they have.

Twitter probably shouldn't be your primary source for information, much less a tweet from Ann Coulter.

The actual article is here: http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand...RAND_RR656.pdf

It states that 9.3 million more people had health insurance in March 2014 than in September 2013.

The majority of that was through people gaining health coverage at work, and another big chunk was through more people being covered by medicaid, but that was what the Affordable Care Act was supposed to do.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Twitter probably shouldn't be your primary source for information, much less a tweet from Ann Coulter.

The actual article is here: http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand...RAND_RR656.pdf

It states that 9.3 million more people had health insurance in March 2014 than in September 2013.

The majority of that was through people gaining health coverage at work, and another big chunk was through more people being covered by medicaid, but that was what the Affordable Care Act was supposed to do.

Of course such a tard like you would never dream of checking on how they came about those ridiculous numbers. You just want to swallow more and more! HO!
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Of course such a tard like you would never dream of checking on how they came about those ridiculous numbers. You just want to swallow more and more! HO!

Did you read the article?
 
Locutus
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Of course such a tard like you would never dream of checking on how they came about those ridiculous numbers. You just want to swallow more and more! HO!

It is sad ain't it.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Did you read the article?

why bother, if it is pro obama it is kool aid stuff...just let them all die, they would be better off...
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Well it depends on who you ask.

Educated people look at this more favourably.

There is a vast difference between being educated and having credentials. Most educated people don't understand the laws of economics and unintended consequences.

Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

...Wave Of Newly Insured Patients Strains Oregon Health Plan...

I have the utmost respect for you. So let me ask you a question. What happens when a finite resource like quality health care is overwhelmed by new demand?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Did you read the article?


The Rand "survey" that is being shredded by everyone? Why would I read that BS. Even Rand admits there is a huge margin of error.




But go ahead and swallow it all... rub it all over.
 
BaalsTears
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I'm getting butthurt by the tenor of this thread. I need some of Dr. TB's famous butthurt cream.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

I'm getting butthurt by the tenor of this thread. I need some of Dr. TB's famous butthurt cream.


Maybe BR has some leftover
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

I'm getting butthurt by the tenor of this thread. I need some of Dr. TB's famous butthurt cream.

I don't know, he doesn't swing one way or the other, only what is logical at the moment...that is contrary to human nature for most.
 
BaalsTears
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Maybe BR has some leftover

Maybe so, but I have a huge order in with TB. He's working night and day to sooth the afflicted.

Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

I don't know, he doesn't swing one way or the other, only what is logical at the moment...that is contrary to human nature for most.

TB is a man of moderation in an era that doesn't appreciate it.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

TB is a man of moderation in an era that doesn't appreciate it.

nor understand it
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

The Rand "survey" that is being shredded by everyone? Why would I read that BS. Even Rand admits there is a huge margin of error.

But go ahead and swallow it all... rub it all over.

Lol, why are you complaining about this to me and not Locust, who actually brought this article up in the first place? Do you have a thing for me?

If you can find a better report on this, I would genuinely be interested in seeing what it says. We could go with the White House Numbers if you want, but they are much higher, so I don't know if that would please you.
 
BaalsTears
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Isn't it true that more than half of the newly insured are going to get Medicaid, for the poor who don't qualify for Medicare or subsidized Obamacare? Who's going to pay for that?
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Ahhhh... the white lib elite approve!

So what you're saying is that there are no educated conservatives.

Huh.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

So what you're saying is that there are no educated conservatives.

Huh.

To the New American Right, being ignorant and ill-educated is a virtue.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

Isn't it true that more than half of the newly insured are going to get Medicaid, for the poor who don't qualify for Medicare or subsidized Obamacare? Who's going to pay for that?

The feds are paying to expand medicare, at least where the states are letting them.

Pretty much every state with a Republican governor turned down federal money to pay for expanded medicaid, and I don't know if any of them have done anything to replace it. They are simply letting millions of people be left without access to medicaid or subsidies through the exchanges just to prove a political point.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

There is a vast difference between being educated and having credentials. Most educated people don't understand the laws of economics and unintended consequences.



I have the utmost respect for you. So let me ask you a question. What happens when a finite resource like quality health care is overwhelmed by new demand?

The dumbest person I know has a PHD . Maybe dumbest is to kind , stupidest would be more appropriate . .
 
taxslave
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Must be a terible thing when the masses can get afordable health care. Takes a lot of the fun out of being rich.
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by BaalsTearsView Post

I have the utmost respect for you. So let me ask you a question. What happens when a finite resource like quality health care is overwhelmed by new demand?

Good quality healthcare is not a finite resource. There will obviously have to be adjustments, which the story in the OP is all about, but they will eventually scale things appropriately.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

Good quality healthcare is not a finite resource. There will obviously have to be adjustments, which the story in the OP is all about, but they will eventually scale things appropriately.

Do adjustments mean death panels ?
 
BornRuff
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Quote: Originally Posted by pgsView Post

Do adjustments mean death panels ?

Lol, yeah, just "adjust" the population to a manageable size.

Seriously though, they hire more staff, buy more physical resources, or and use what they have more efficiently.

It is like any other business, you scale based on the supply and demand.
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by BornRuffView Post

In what is clearly the worst problem yet, millions of the formerly uninsured now have health insurance.

Wave Of Newly Insured Patients Strains Oregon Health Plan

Wave Of Newly Insured Patients Strains Oregon Health Plan : Shots - Health News : NPR


That would be a good thing. You don't restrict people, if you have to, you restrict the conditions and procedures you cover.
 
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