Lawyer suggests anti-Muslim speech can be punished

[tay]

A U.S. attorney in Tennessee is reportedly vowing to use federal civil rights statutes to clamp down on offensive and inflammatory speech about Islam.

Bill Killian, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Tennessee, was quoted by the Tullahoma News this week suggesting that some inflammatory material on Islam might run afoul of federal civil rights laws.

"We need to educate people about Muslims and their civil rights, and as long as we’re here, they’re going to be protected," Killian told the newspaper.

Killian, along with the FBI special agent that runs the Knoxville office, are set to speak next week to a special meeting with the local Muslim community, informing them about their rights under federal law.

"This is an educational effort with civil rights laws as they play into freedom of religion and exercising freedom of religion," Killian said about the meeting. "This is also to inform the public what federal laws are in effect and what the consequences are."


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[taxslave]

What ever happened to the law protecting free speech?

 

[Colpy]

A U.S. attorney in Tennessee is reportedly vowing to use federal civil rights statutes to clamp down on offensive and inflammatory speech about Islam.

Bill Killian, U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Tennessee, was quoted by the Tullahoma News this week suggesting that some inflammatory material on Islam might run afoul of federal civil rights laws.

"We need to educate people about Muslims and their civil rights, and as long as we’re here, they’re going to be protected," Killian told the newspaper.

Killian, along with the FBI special agent that runs the Knoxville office, are set to speak next week to a special meeting with the local Muslim community, informing them about their rights under federal law.

"This is an educational effort with civil rights laws as they play into freedom of religion and exercising freedom of religion," Killian said about the meeting. "This is also to inform the public what federal laws are in effect and what the consequences are."


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Time for all good men and women to go to their computers, their blogs, their message boards and declare:

Mohammed is a fraud. He was a meglomaniacal, genocidal mass murderer, war monger, thief, rapist, and pedophile. His followers are at best deluded, at worst evil. Islam is submission to a philosophy of war and hatred of unbelievers, Jews, and women. It is incompatible with western liberty and democracy, and our deference to Muslims in the west must end, as must mass immigration of Muslims, if we are to remain free.

**** Bill Killian.

 

[WLDB]

Down there? I doubt it. Sadly I wouldnt be surprised if it happened here though.

 

[Palindrome]

In the comments about Muslims, substitute Jews, and see how well freedom of speech works.

Plus.... look up at the red & green lettering over this box. Okay, under this box, now.

 

[Goober]

What ever happened to the law protecting free speech?

Incitement to violence is against US law.

 

[Cliffy]

Mohammed is a fraud. He was a meglomaniacal, genocidal mass murderer, war monger, thief, rapist, and pedophile. His followers are at best deluded, at worst evil. Islam is submission to a philosophy of war and hatred of unbelievers, Jews, and women. It is incompatible with western liberty and democracy, and our deference to Muslims in the west must end, as must mass immigration of Muslims, if we are to remain free.

For that matter, the Jewish and Christian religions are frauds, made up as they were from remnants of several older religious beliefs, including Sumerian, Egyptian, Babylonian and possibly Hindu. Mohammed borrowed heavily from the old testament. When it comes down to it, all religions are not compatible with freedom or democracy.

 

[Palindrome]

There are no good organized religions. There are no innocent civilizations.
And yet, not all of the persons born into, subsumed by, or participating in, religion and civilization deserve to be vilified.
Just the rulers. Hate-speech against rulers is okay.

 

[damngrumpy]

The time has come to address the issues that confront our society. This includes the
Muslim issue, the Christians and Jews and dozens of other causes that threaten the
very fabric of society. The west with its open door policy has attempted to accomodate
everyone. The problem is accommodation is impossible because some are intolerant
of each other. Why many Christians want to impose their views on the entire nation.
The Jews want advantage in society in general, and in many cases the Muslims are
even intolerant of each other let alone anyone else who does not agree with them.
We must confront the thoughts actions and feelings that grip society. This includes
not only listening but hearing what the vast majority is saying.
Its not because of discrimination that the Muslims don't fit in, its because of their over
all attitude toward everyone else that is creating problems. Yes some of the statements
made against them is bigotry. Some of it is fair comment and those criticisms should
and deserve to be heard, whether it offends some or not. Calling them names or calling
their founders frauds, is not going to add much to a dialogue but pointing out the shortcomings
individually is fair game. After all they point out the faults of everyone else.
the same goes for the other groups as well. But NA we won't do that we will instead wait
until the anger level approaches chaos and then we will decide to address the issues.
The time has come for all to stand up and be counted, and that includes moderate Muslims,
Christians, and people who believe in nothing. The slow strangulation of freedom is taking
place.

 

[petros]

Mohammed is a fraud.

Just like Darby?

 

[Machjo]

What ever happened to the law protecting free speech?

Including inciting hate? There must be some kind of limit.

 

[Walter]

When it comes down to it, all religions are not compatible with freedom or democracy.

Whoever taught you should give you your money back.

 

[Machjo]

Time for all good men and women to go to their computers, their blogs, their message boards and declare:

Mohammed is a fraud. He was a meglomaniacal, genocidal mass murderer, war monger, thief, rapist, and pedophile. His followers are at best deluded, at worst evil. Islam is submission to a philosophy of war and hatred of unbelievers, Jews, and women. It is incompatible with western liberty and democracy, and our deference to Muslims in the west must end, as must mass immigration of Muslims, if we are to remain free.

**** Bill Killian.

And what about conferted Muslims? Deport them?

I remember a story in Victoria BC. A protestant woman adopted Islam, but it seems her protestant education influenced her on some level. She was at a funeral one day, and men stood on one side and women on the other. She decided to stand by her husband on the men's side. Some Muslims challenged her, and her response? 'Where does it say in the Qur'an or Ahadith that the sexes must be separated at a funeral?' They left her alone for the rest of the funeral.

Another problem I see is that many Muslims and Christians and Jews etc. seem to never have read their own scriptures, or at most read passages out of context. A religious litterature course that includes quotes co0ncerning expected behaviour that is often overlooked might make them rethink the politicization of their respective religions.

 

[Colpy]

For that matter, the Jewish and Christian religions are frauds, made up as they were from remnants of several older religious beliefs, including Sumerian, Egyptian, Babylonian and possibly Hindu. Mohammed borrowed heavily from the old testament. When it comes down to it, all religions are not compatible with freedom or democracy.

In that Cliffy, you are 180 degrees off target.

Modern democracy sprang from Christian, Deist philosophy.

Not only is Christianity compatible with modern democracy, it is the very foundation of modern democracy.

 

[Machjo]

1 corinthians 14:34-40:

34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36 What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
40 Let all things be done decently and in order.

This is not to say the Christian Faith was not a progressive, even revolutionary, religion ahead of its time, but that was about 2,000 years ago. It's spiritual teachings have not aged one bit, but the same cannot be said for its social teachings as the example above indicates.

Certainly its spiritual teachings, which are identical to those of Islam, undoubtedly contributed to the foundation of democracy. What I can say though is that in general it woudl appear that Christians did a better job of putting the teachings of the gospel into practice than Muslims did the Qur'an and the Ahadith.

 

[taxslave]

Including inciting hate? There must be some kind of limit.

THERE IS. When a person promotes violence. Saying I hate muslims is not hate speech but saying all muslims must be killed is.

 

[lone wolf]

Lawyers will clamp down on anything they think they can suck a dollar from

 

[Cliffy]

In that Cliffy, you are 180 degrees off target.

Modern democracy sprang from Christian, Deist philosophy.

Not only is Christianity compatible with modern democracy, it is the very foundation of modern democracy.

Christian democracy sprung from the dark ages but did not get far beyond that. They fought anybody who was not white, male Christian from participating in democracy. Aboriginals only got the vote in the 1960s or 70s. Women less than 100 years ago. Progressive Christian males may have started democracy but they certainly stood in the way of everybody else.Christianity is only about 50 years ahead of Muslims in their attitudes toward women, blacks and Abos, but many are still in the dark ages about gays.

 

[Colpy]

Christian democracy sprung from the dark ages but did not get far beyond that. They fought anybody who was not white, male Christian from participating in democracy. Aboriginals only got the vote in the 1960s or 70s. Women less than 100 years ago. Progressive Christian males may have started democracy but they certainly stood in the way of everybody else.Christianity is only about 50 years ahead of Muslims in their attitudes toward women, blacks and Abos, but many are still in the dark ages about gays.

Cliffy, that is so far off the mark................."Christianity is only about 50 years ahead of Muslims in their attitudes toward women......"

Really????

 

[Machjo]

Christian democracy sprung from the dark ages but did not get far beyond that. They fought anybody who was not white, male Christian from participating in democracy. Aboriginals only got the vote in the 1960s or 70s. Women less than 100 years ago. Progressive Christian males may have started democracy but they certainly stood in the way of everybody else.Christianity is only about 50 years ahead of Muslims in their attitudes toward women, blacks and Abos, but many are still in the dark ages about gays.

Let's not confuse a few things here. where does the New Testament approve of racism, imperialism, or Indian residential Schools. Yes, musch of this was doen in teh name of Christ, just as much terrorism is committed in the name of God, but you can't blame the founder for the acts of his followers. Judge Jesus on his own words and actions.

And just to clarify, I don't profess the Christian Faith myself.