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Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

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Liberalman
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#1Oct 20th, 2012
Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

In the first American presidential debate Mitt Romney promised a two trillion dollar gift to the military so world regime change could continue because the American way is the best lifestyle people can live.

In war soldiers die and get injured where they cannot be effective soldiers and in a war the motivation to be a volunteer soldier decreases dramatically.

In order to sustain wars for the next four years forced conscription or the draft will have to become a reality again to make sure America’s military can be an effective fighting machine.

What do you think?
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Last edited by Liberalman; Oct 20th, 2012 at 11:26 AM..Reason: some
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
He'd spend the cash on drones, warships, tech and missiles.

There's no reason to have a big conventional army any more, other than to be the UN's police force
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
If the economy sucks, and people are hungry, is a Draft necessary?
MIlitary service is employment.
 
TeddyBallgame
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

He'd spend the cash on drones, warships, tech and missiles.

There's no reason to have a big conventional army any more, other than to be the UN's police force

- CM ... Isn't it amusing and amazing to read such uninformed crapolla from someone who calls himself Liberalman and boasts a picture of Peter Waterhole, the Godfather of public debt in Canada, as his avatar?

- Yes, you are correct about the different kind of military needed these days with the emphasis on high tech weaponry rather than low tech boots on the ground.

- I should also add that the US draft was ended by a Republican president (Nixon around 1970), that no president from either party would commit political suicide by reinstituting the draft, and that the purpose of maintaining the US's military superiority is not so as to engage in more wars but to prevent or at least reduce the likelihood of more wars by what Ronald Reagan called peace through strength. Weakness is more provocative militarily than strength and it is instructive that every major war involving the US in the past 100 years has been initiated while the Democrats were in power. But Liberalman like his idol Peter Waterhole has contempt for the military, would like to weaken it even more and faster than Obama is doing in the US, thinks that a strong military (e.g. Switzerland) always means more wars and so is spreading left wing misinformation about Romney's military policy.
 
B00Mer
Libertarian
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
I would like to see a mandatory military stint as they have in South Korea and Israel, for the USA.

Mandatory Military Service Would Benefit the U.S.

Quote:

Would you like to see your son, daughter, niece, nephew or teenage neighbor become hard-working, respectful, disciplined, honorable and prepared for life? Would you like to see crime, teenage pregnancy and substance abuse rates decline? No, this is not an advertisement for a magic pill; this is an argument for mandatory military service. more.

 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
What's really amazing is that you don't hear the population at large b*tch and moan about entitlements and handouts in those nations (or some Euro nations) like you do in Canada and the States.
 
Liberalman
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Teddy Ballgame you like Trudeau too?
 
petros
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

I would like to see a mandatory military stint as they have in South Korea and Israel, for the USA.

Mandatory Military Service Would Benefit the U.S.

Sounds Commie to me.
 
Highball
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Right now all of the military branches have volunteer enlistee waiting lines. There aren't many decent paying jobs out there and with the benefits and living arrangements like they are it won't become a problem soon. It was mentioned early on in the start up of the Obama presidency but it became a non-issue as enlistees came forward. The new US Naval vessels are being designed to be operated with reduced crew sizing. The new Carriers will be staffed with less than 4,000 as compared the the 5,000+ they now require.
 
Kreskin
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

What's really amazing is that you don't hear the population at large b*tch and moan about entitlements and handouts in those nations (or some Euro nations) like you do in Canada and the States.

The only people I hear bitching and moaning about entitlements are rightwingers. Just what entitlements are you speaking of?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
The only draft with Romney is the one passing through his ears!
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The only people I hear bitching and moaning about entitlements are rightwingers. Just what entitlements are you speaking of?


Yeah sure.. The recent Occupy Movement wasn't comprised of right wingers, was it?

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The only draft with Romney is the one passing through his ears!

Lemme help you on this:

Welcome to Instant Rimshot
 
Kreskin
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Yeah sure.. The recent Occupy Movement wasn't comprised of right wingers, was it?



Lemme help you on this:

Welcome to Instant Rimshot

The list of entitlements?
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
The standard, ideological rantings and ravings on developing a full-service nanny state wherein no one has to assume responsibility for themselves and those that are crazy enough to attempt to advance and succeed are punished and penalized for that style of atrocity
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 20th, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

The only people I hear bitching and moaning about entitlements are rightwingers. Just what entitlements are you speaking of?


Those same right wingers love their bailouts and other forms of corporate welfare.
 
Kreskin
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The standard, ideological rantings and ravings on developing a full-service nanny state wherein no one has to assume responsibility for themselves and those that are crazy enough to attempt to advance and succeed are punished and penalized for that style of atrocity

That is an invented fantasy state by rightwingers. They would rather the entire country pay twice as much for things like healthcare because rightwing politicians and their cronies put more money in their pockets. Public healthcare is cheaper, it has nothing to do with nanny state. It means not having a freeloader cronie state.
 
Machjo
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?
In the first American presidential debate Mitt Romney promised a two trillion dollar gift to the military so world regime change could continue because the American way is the best lifestyle people can live.
In war soldiers die and get injured where they cannot be effective soldiers and in a war the motivation to be a volunteer soldier decreases dramatically.
In order to sustain wars for the next four years forced conscription or the draft will have to become a reality again to make sure America’s military...

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Keep it up and that two trillion dollars won't be worth the paper it's printed on. Where is the US going to get that money? Print it? Hello Weimar republic. Get out your wheelbarrow to carry your money.



Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The standard, ideological rantings and ravings on developing a full-service nanny state wherein no one has to assume responsibility for themselves and those that are crazy enough to attempt to advance and succeed are punished and penalized for that style of atrocity

Isn't having a bigger military than you need not part of a nanny state guaranteeing jobs to the unemployed?
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

That is an invented fantasy state by rightwingers. They would rather the entire country pay twice as much for things like healthcare because rightwing politicians and their cronies put more money in their pockets. Public healthcare is cheaper, it has nothing to do with nanny state. It means not having a freeloader cronie state.

Exactly who is doing the freeloading in your eyes?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post


Isn't having a bigger military than you need not part of a nanny state guaranteeing jobs to the unemployed?

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Yep, but not necessarily a bad thing. They could be doing jobs that need doing!

 
Machjo
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Yep, but not necessarily a bad thing. They could be doing jobs that need doing!

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Perhaps. but then why waste money training them for a job they're not likely to do and then put them to work doing something else? In that case, wouldn't a peace corps actually trained to do civilian work, whether natural disaster relief, etc. not make more sense and save money on military training for cilivian jobs?
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The standard, ideological rantings and ravings on developing a full-service nanny state wherein no one has to assume responsibility for themselves and those that are crazy enough to attempt to advance and succeed are punished and penalized for that style of atrocity

Sounds like Canada.

Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post


Keep it up and that two trillion dollars won't be worth the paper it's printed on. Where is the US going to get that money? Print it? Hello Weimar republic. Get out your wheelbarrow to carry your money.
...

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That is why everyone must have a debit card or credit card. Easy to just print the zeros rather than packing a bunch of paper around.
I like paper money cause it helps keep pulp prices up.
 
Machjo
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

That is why everyone must have a debit card or credit card. Easy to just print the zeros rather than packing a bunch of paper around.
I like paper money cause it helps keep pulp prices up.

Well, I was using the word "printing" in a more general sense, not just applying to paper money but also in adding zeros to the electronic money the central bank will give out. The result is the same. Before you know it, that 2 trillion dollars will buy you a rifle if you can find one at a good price.

The US has major debt problems and they want to increase US military spending by 2 trillion dollars? No wonder people are getting poorer in the US. The value of their hard-earned money is being eradicated.
 
Kreskin
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Exactly who is doing the freeloading in your eyes?

Who do you think has been profitting for a healthcare system that is twice as expensive as other nations, and no more effective?
 
gopher
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Who do you think has been profitting for a healthcare system that is twice as expensive as other nations, and no more effective?


Correction: less effective.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

Who do you think has been profitting for a healthcare system that is twice as expensive as other nations, and no more effective?


Ummm, the 50+% of Americans that don't pay federal income taxes?
 
taxslave
No Party Affiliation
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 21st, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Ummm, the 50+% of Americans that don't pay federal income taxes?

I'm thinking he is referring to the companies and their shareholders that run their rather piss poor health care system
 
Just the Facts
Free Thinker
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 22nd, 2012
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure the 2 trillion is derived from not going through with the planned cut in 2013. You know, the one as a result of Obama not being able to work with congress. The one that was specifically timed to not occur until after the election. You know the one?

So it's not actually a new 2 trillion. Anyhoo, the way things are going, they're gonna need a lot more than 2 trillion soon.
 
Nuggler
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

If the economy sucks, and people are hungry, is a Draft necessary?
MIlitary service is employment.


I guess that the economy doesn't suck enough and people aren't hungry enough to fill the military's needs, Or perhaps they can count body bags and have decided they don't want to be in one in the event of yet another war on terrra, or something/someone else.

That still is no reason for a draft............just so the war department can have fun.

Close the window. Put on storm windows. no draft.

BTW; Romney might be nuts.
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

I'm thinking he is referring to the companies and their shareholders that run their rather piss poor health care system


I did get that suggestion. My point is that there is also a net benefit to society at large
 
Machjo
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Re: Will The Draft Come With Mitt Romney’s Two Trillion Dollar Military Promise?

Oct 22nd, 2012
Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

So it's not actually a new 2 trillion. Anyhoo, the way things are going, they're gonna need a lot more than 2 trillion soon.

Of course. As the dollar declines in value, 2 trillion is what they'll pay for a new car in the US soon enough.
 

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