Wisconsin Republicans - "No Room For Compromise"

ironsides

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Law enforcement in the United States has a rich and varied history. Although most people are familiar with the uniformed policeman who patrols the nation's neighborhoods, many are utterly ignorant of the role military police play in enforcing the laws of our nation. Military and civilian police forces around the country perform similar tasks for different constituents. However, with the advent of domestic terrorism rising in recent years, the lines differentiating the military police from the civilian police have started to blur. As civilian police forces become increasingly militarized, it is important to explore the differences and similarities between civilian and military police forces and what their goals are. In the end, both military and civilian police forces have one job: to provide for the safety and security of the citizens of the United States.
 

Cliffy

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Law enforcement in the United States has a rich and varied history. Although most people are familiar with the uniformed policeman who patrols the nation's neighborhoods, many are utterly ignorant of the role military police play in enforcing the laws of our nation. Military and civilian police forces around the country perform similar tasks for different constituents. However, with the advent of domestic terrorism rising in recent years, the lines differentiating the military police from the civilian police have started to blur. As civilian police forces become increasingly militarized, it is important to explore the differences and similarities between civilian and military police forces and what their goals are. In the end, both military and civilian police forces have one job: to provide for the safety and security of the citizens of the United States.
Yes, the corporation must protect its assets. Would make no economic sense not to. People are no more than cattle to the corporation.
 

ironsides

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You haven't seen anything yet in terms of American migration to Canada. America is the third most populace country in the world. Only China and India are larger. California by itself is more populace than Canada.

Canada and America have the longest undefended border in the world. You folks simply have no idea of the magnitude of what is coming your way. We are more numerous than the stars in the night sky. Large scale American migration will change Canada just as large scale Mexican migration has changed America.

I agree there, in a few years the Latin American community will out number the so called traditional Caucasian community. Canada wouldn't know what hit them if say 20-10 or 5 million Americans decided to move north within a year or two. I don't think that Canadian industry has enough job openings to take care of us. We will just have to do it alone as we usually do.
 

ironsides

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Almost, even I can barely understand Newfoundlandic.

The 8 million jobs are only the ones counted by unemployment insurance. The number those who are off benefits, lost their farms and self employed who lost their business aren't included

The moron in the White House didn't scam trillions from investors. It's Wall Street, London and EBIC that keep ripping us all off. He just upped the debt and hocked your great great grandchildren to the Fed Reserve.

Your right, those who don't get a new job and dropped of the unemployment rolls are just forgotten. The last figure I heard being said was there are about 17 million without jobs. Guess we may as well blame Wall Street, nice general blame. We lose money, Wall Street loses also. There is no profit taking care of 330 million people. Obama took over GM in order that the government could make some money. Now it is or soon will be put on its own again, tehre done with it.
 

BaalsTears

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I agree there, in a few years the Latin American community will out number the so called traditional Caucasian community. Canada wouldn't know what hit them if say 20-10 or 5 million Americans decided to move north within a year or two. I don't think that Canadian industry has enough job openings to take care of us. We will just have to do it alone as we usually do.

Americans will do to Canadians what Mexicans have done to Americans. Work for less. We will make ourselves attractive to Canadian employers. And our Canadian born children will demand benefits.

Five million Americans will change the character of Canada. Ten million Americans would change the face of Canada.
 

ironsides

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Yes, the corporation must protect its assets. Would make no economic sense not to. People are no more than cattle to the corporation.

Is there any other way in this time in history. Giant populations need corporations to feed and take care of them.
 

Cliffy

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Is there any other way in this time in history. Giant populations need corporations to feed and take care of them.
The US of Aggression is the corporation that owns your ass. Canada is the corporation that owns mine. We are just assets of those corporations.
 

petros

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Your right, those who don't get a new job and dropped of the unemployment rolls are just forgotten. The last figure I heard being said was there are about 17 million without jobs. Guess we may as well blame Wall Street, nice general blame. We lose money, Wall Street loses also. There is no profit taking care of 330 million people. Obama took over GM in order that the government could make some money. Now it is or soon will be put on its own again, tehre done with it.
GM did go public again. Their IPO was at $32 I think. That is 1000% more than when US Gov took over. There must have been some decent profits seen from that.

Wall Street is to blame. Was it Joe average American or George W who cooked up the scheme to back millions of unqualified credit applicants which inflated the housing market to the point a starter homes was $300K.
 

BaalsTears

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...Was it Joe average American or George W who cooked up the scheme to back millions of unqualified credit applicants which inflated the housing market to the point a starter homes was $300K.

On the coast of Northern California, starter homes are still priced at more than $300K. You can't buy squat out here for that.
 

damngrumpy

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I agree that the immigration from America will come and it will be a sad and
increasingly negative period in Canadian History. This will not be met with
cheers by any means as Canadians are in fact cousins with Americans but
they have an entirely different history. We are currently dealing with the
influx of third world peoples and that is starting to sour already. The politically
correct Bible is about to find its way to the trash can as people are starting to
speak up. If the American experience is next Canada will take a dim view of
it I assure you. These are the periods in history when the old thoughts of
nationalism rear their heads like it or not.
 

captain morgan

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GM did go public again. Their IPO was at $32 I think. That is 1000% more than when US Gov took over. There must have been some decent profits seen from that.

Wall Street is to blame. Was it Joe average American or George W who cooked up the scheme to back millions of unqualified credit applicants which inflated the housing market to the point a starter homes was $300K.


Jimmy Carter got the ball rolling on the easing-up of the regulations on retail mortgages.... Things spiraled from there. That said, no one person is to blame as much as everyone is to blame. On that note, lets not forget that while the Feds or the private sector made access to a mortgage easier, it still takes the signature of the buyer to get into that mortgage.
 

petros

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Jimmy Carter got the ball rolling on the easing-up of the regulations on retail mortgages.... Things spiraled from there. That said, no one person is to blame as much as everyone is to blame. On that note, lets not forget that while the Feds or the private sector made access to a mortgage easier, it still takes the signature of the buyer to get into that mortgage.

"There is a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum
 

Trotz

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Americans will do to Canadians what Mexicans have done to Americans. Work for less. We will make ourselves attractive to Canadian employers. And our Canadian born children will demand benefits.

Five million Americans will change the character of Canada. Ten million Americans would change the face of Canada.

No they would not.
Republican Americans hate socialists and refuse to "leave the best country in the world" (which is the United States according to them).


If anything it would just be reflective of current migration patterns. Mainly, the Yanks that come up here will be Democrat-Voting White people who hate the religiosity and hostility towards secularization in the United States and are fleeing reverse racism to some extent (being the last white man in Detroit or in a Black / Latino community is no picnic).


I honestly would rather have Yankees coming up here than Ontarians and Quebecers, simply because the Ontarians and Quebecers who come here tend to be social rejects in regards that most of them are either militant Communists, Queers, Dopers or are simply insane; to the extent, most of the homeless people on Douglas (Victoria) and Robson (Vancouver) are all White people from Eastern Canada.

At least the Yanks who come up here, nonwithstanding their Yankee personality, will be more "normal" compared to the morons from Eastern Canada who come to British Columbia thinking it's a doper's paradise.

I agree that the immigration from America will come and it will be a sad and
increasingly negative period in Canadian History. This will not be met with
cheers by any means as Canadians are in fact cousins with Americans but
they have an entirely different history. We are currently dealing with the
influx of third world peoples and that is starting to sour already. The politically
correct Bible is about to find its way to the trash can as people are starting to
speak up. If the American experience is next Canada will take a dim view of
it I assure you. These are the periods in history when the old thoughts of
nationalism rear their heads like it or not.

It will be different in 20-30 years when the current generation of youth Canadians are no longer on the babyboomer's teet and they find out they / we are all living in a country aswamped with foreigners, especially the Chinese who then probably own all the houses and condos in the large cities, and there are practically no jobs to speak of.

I speak with both boomers and those of my generation and trust me there is no common dialogue between the two groups, I forsee massive changes (i.e direct democracy / internet) in the future once my generation is finally allowed to express themselves but that won't be until the baby boomers are gone and baby boomers are supposedly expected to live until 90/100.
 

Cannuck

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Chances are that CUPE had to bid on the job offered by Volker ...The reference to V.S. being the middle man (and therefore unnecessary) is misleading... My question, if the contract was put out to tender (as I believe it was), how come CUPE did not win the contract and presuming that they did bid (which I suspect, but do not know for sure), clearly their bid was uncompetitive, yet, here they are doing the work.

CUPE doesn't bid on jobs. It is clear you do not understand what unions are and are not.

I don't disagree (in principle) with your comments, but the fact still remains, society has a product/service that is equal to or better than what was delivered under the union program.

That is simple not the case. In many areas, service is much worse than it was when Alberta Transportation maintained highways and that has nothing to do with union vs non union operations. As I said, you clearly have little knowledge of the nut and bolts of the issues. The product is better when the government throws money at it and it is worse when the government reduces money. The real question is how much better or worse and are tax payers getting value for the dollars spent.
 

BaalsTears

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I agree that the immigration from America will come and it will be a sad and
increasingly negative period in Canadian History. This will not be met with
cheers by any means as Canadians are in fact cousins with Americans but
they have an entirely different history. We are currently dealing with the
influx of third world peoples and that is starting to sour already. The politically
correct Bible is about to find its way to the trash can as people are starting to
speak up. If the American experience is next Canada will take a dim view of
it I assure you. These are the periods in history when the old thoughts of
nationalism rear their heads like it or not.

Agreed.

No they would not.
Republican Americans hate socialists and refuse to "leave the best country in the world" (which is the United States according to them).


If anything it would just be reflective of current migration patterns. Mainly, the Yanks that come up here will be Democrat-Voting White people who hate the religiosity and hostility towards secularization in the United States and are fleeing reverse racism to some extent (being the last white man in Detroit or in a Black / Latino community is no picnic).


I honestly would rather have Yankees coming up here than Ontarians and Quebecers, simply because the Ontarians and Quebecers who come here tend to be social rejects in regards that most of them are either militant Communists, Queers, Dopers or are simply insane; to the extent, most of the homeless people on Douglas (Victoria) and Robson (Vancouver) are all White people from Eastern Canada.

At least the Yanks who come up here, nonwithstanding their Yankee personality, will be more "normal" compared to the morons from Eastern Canada who come to British Columbia thinking it's a doper's paradise....

My friend, hope springs eternal does it not? The first cohort of Mexicans who came here were hard working, nose to the grindstone types. But they were impoverished, ignorant and unskilled. When they got to old to work they were thrown away by their employers and were forced to rely on the dole in its many forms.

The were followed by subsequent cohorts from Mexico over the years. And I notice a change in the types of people who came here. At this point in time in my community we are not getting illegal aliens with the same attitude as the earlier cohorts.

We are now getting large numbers of pistoleros who come here to live La Vida Loco, the gangster lifestyle, while they peddle dope. These folks are muy malo. They are the greatest source of crime in my hometown. As a result my hometown has changed. It has become dangerous. Surenos and Nortenos from Mexico, and MS-13 from El Salvador. Stone cold killers.

They bring their families here so we even have their retirees. An entire cross-section of Mexican society has come to America over the years. At least fifteen percent of all Mexican citizens reside illegally in America. In time some of them or their American born children will find their way to Canada. And they will report back that Canada is the land of milk and honey.

I write the above paragraphs to tell you that you can't reasonably anticipate what is coming your way. You must remember that for two full generations the American public school system has produced k-12 graduating classes in which the students are more ignorant than the classes before it. These are the type of people who have no future in America. These are the folks who imo will come your way. They are largely ignorant and unskilled, and will be increasingly impoverished.

The Yanks coming to Canada will not be mechanical engineers, certified public accountants, or attorneys. They will be people who drift through life because no one has ever taken the time to give them direction. They will hear that there are opportunities in Canada. Some of them will hard working, but a cross-section of Americans will ultimately make their way north.

You should also be aware that the Yanks who settle in Canada will still retain sympathy for their former brothers and sisters who want to head to the North. Some Americans will be white, but many will be black or latino. Some will come to work, some to commit crimes, and others to live off the dole.

The Canadian educational system will then face the greatest crisis it has ever encountered in that it will have to try to make up for inferior parenting. The Canadian Left will embrace these New Canadians.
 

Glenfilthie

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I am truly at a loss at the sheer ignorance.

Is this the level of understanding of the average 'Canadian'? It would be funny if it were some other country . It's amazing that people that can read and write, access all the major news networks at the click of a mouse, plus dozens of specialized economic media - and think that Canada will sail through the impending economic chit storm unscathed without a care in the world. How many of you really think that your biggest problem in the days ahead will be American trash flooding over the border?

Kids. Europe is on its last swirl around the toilet bowl. Socialism has it collapsing under its own weight. Africa? They can't even feed themselves. China and India will collapse too without a market. It should be intuitively obvious even to the dimmest bulbs that if enough of your neighbours lose their jobs, eventually you will lose yours too. Sheesh! How clueless can people be? Your largest economic trading partner is tanking. You won't find any replacement customers in Europe because they are too. That leaves the third world - and their labour markets will do a better job than ours will at one quarter the cost!

I would suggest that while the mentally challenged among us worry themselves sick about immigrant Americans, the rest of us stock up on food and commodities. Canada is in a bubble and when it pops there will be no denying the truth of it - regardless of how offensive that truth is.