White House says AP report on 100K Nat’l Guard deportation force “100% not true”

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too many fake fakerson's trying to be the next wikileak superstar. they all goin' down. especially if this was Trump's bait to nab such a rat. :lol:

Has the White House considered a call-up of 100,000 National Guard reservists to use as a deportation force? It depends on the definition of the word “considers.” The Associated Press sent out a tweet earlier this morning that reported that plan under consideration — which would result in “unprecedented militarization” of immigration efforts:
BREAKING: Trump administration considers mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants.

— The Associated Press (@AP) February 17, 2017
The story from Garance Burke followed immediately afterward, which noted that the memo had been written by DHS Secretary John Kelly:
The Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.

The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana.

Four states that border on Mexico are included in the proposal — California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas — but it also encompasses seven states contiguous to those four — Oregon, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana.

Governors in the 11 states would have a choice whether to have their guard troops participate, according to the memo, written by U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general.
CNBC’s Steve Kopack smelled a rat. Noting briefly that this is merely a draft, he also quickly posted a denial from the White House that this plan is under consideration at all:
Regarding draft memo reported on by the AP, a senior administration official tells @NBCNews' @PeterAlexander: "This is false."

— Steve Kopack (@SteveKopack) February 17, 2017
Sean Spicer went on the record about it on Air Force One:
On Air Force One, @PressSec knocks down report that National Guard might be used to round up illegal immigrants. Says "100% not true."

— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) February 17, 2017
“There is no effort at all to round up, to utilize the National Guard to round up illegal immigrants," Spicer told press pool on AF-1.

— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) February 17, 2017
NBC reporter Benjy Sarlin also found it difficult to believe, especially since the Trump administration had asked for funding an additional 10,000 ICE agents for this task:
This sounds completely bizarre. Trump only proposed adding 10k ICE agents and there's nowhere near the infrastructure to deport this way. https://t.co/oX3aTdcrJT

— Benjy Sarlin (@BenjySarlin) February 17, 2017
Even if this was under serious consideration, the use of the National Guard for immigration enforcement wouldn’t have been entirely unprecedented. Guess who ordered it six years ago? (Via Jeryl Bier)
President Obama’s decision last year to send 1,200 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border may have been smart politics, but a growing number of skeptics say the deployment is an expensive and inefficient mission that has made little difference in homeland security.

Critics of the deployment include budget hawks, who say it is a waste of money, and residents here along the border, who say they are tired of seeing armed troops in their back yard. …

Most of the criticism of the deployment focuses on its costs and benefits. The 1,200 National Guard troops have helped Border Patrol agents apprehend 25,514 illegal immigrants at a cost of $160 million — or $6,271 for each person caught.
“As a mayor, I am not going to say we don’t want more security. But as a taxpayer? I would say something different,” said John David Franz, mayor of Hidalgo, in Texas’s Rio Grande Valley.
Could it be done? Sure, and it might have gotten some White House spitballing at some point, thanks to the precedent set before Trump. However, the same precedent shows that it’s not a terribly effective policy, and it creates more problems than it solves. The plan, as discussed in the memo, envisions leaving the National Guard under the direction of governors to avoid nationalizing the troops, which means that the governors could reject the idea altogether. That would certainly be the case in California, and maybe New Mexico too, which would put a big dent in the plan.

If Kelly did write the memo, then reporting it as “under consideration” might not be fake news, but it certainly would be out of context news. Draft memos do not provide any clear indication of administration policy, and sometimes agencies game out plans that they’re not necessarily endorsing themselves. A military leader like Kelly would have the instincts to plan for all potential contingencies, including military assaults on nations with which we have no current conflicts. This draft memo may be nothing more than ensuring that all policy options have been fleshed out and ready depending on the president’s preferences. That’s potential context about which reporters should know, especially those at the Associated Press, and should take time to check out before publication.
And, lo and behold:
DHS confirms that the memo reported by AP did exist; but they said it was "never seriously considered" https://t.co/4kB6rLfyCX

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) February 17, 2017
All in all, this certainly lends some credence to Donald Trump’s complaints about the media chasing false or misleading stories. It seems that some in the media rushed into a trap of their own making this morning. And maybe Kelly needs to start looking within DHS to see who’s leaking these spitballing efforts, too.

Update: Where did the Associated Press get the 100,000 figure? Gabriel Malor has read the order and finds it nowhere to be seen:
Alright, looking at a copy of the draft memo now. It never suggests nationalizing the Guard. It's an extension of 287(g). Here's it is: pic.twitter.com/Su8I8dQn6p

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) February 17, 2017
Also, the draft memo does not specify 100,000 NG would be mobilized. Nor that they would be "rounding up" aliens.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) February 17, 2017
No wonder AP didn't rush to release the actual memo.
— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) February 17, 2017

Starting to look a little “fakey” …

Update: James Pindell speculates that the White House didn’t respond to requests for comment to set up the Associated Press:
This marks at least the third time the White House has, according to reports, not responded to reporters and later attacked it as fake news. There appears to be a pattern, and it might be a strategy from the White House to discredit the press. …

But it’s also possible — although nearly impossible to prove — that the White House set up the AP by not responding to their inquiries and only denying the report after it came out.

It is also possible that the AP got the story; the White House declined to respond; the story was published; and only then did the administration realize an immigration deportation force was a bad idea.

All of this plays perfeectly into Trump’s efforts — on full display during his Thursday press conference — to make the press his foil.
Nothing in the first four weeks of White House messaging makes me believe that they’re this organized; it’s a lot easier to explain that the disorganization on display was why the White House and DHS didn’t respond quickly to those requests. But even if one wants to entertain the notion, how does that explain the 100,000-troops figure? It’s not in the memo.


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Are you sure that they're not going to go door-to-door, banging each one down with rifle butts ...
"RAUS! RAUS! RAUS!" ...

Come to think of it, wasn't that Obama's exact same plan to go door-to-door taking freedom lovin' Americans guns away?
 

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whatever.

the fact is the pissed-off media is jumping on rumors, innuendo and speculation and looking more and more foolish. makes Trump and his team that much more powerful. his base deeper and stronger.

keep up the good work. :lol:
 

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whatever.

the fact is the pissed-off media is jumping on rumors, innuendo and speculation and looking more and more foolish. makes Trump and his team that much more powerful. his base deeper and stronger.

keep up the good work. :lol:

So, the fake news like that above makes him stronger? Or was it the fake news about the Fake News that makes his base love him?
 

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too many fake fakerson's trying to be the next wikileak superstar. they all goin' down. especially if this was Trump's bait to nab such a rat. :lol:

I agree that there are too many fake news stories floating around, Loc but I can't see them 'goin' down' anytime soon. The internet is a very big place.

There is so much coverage of what Trump is up to lately - both fake and real - that many important news stories are slipping by the wayside. One such story concern's Bannon's latest triumph as his boy, Scott Pruitt won approval to head the EPA.

"But what if the President-elect nominates someone whose career has been dedicated to undermining the agency he has been chosen to lead, and opposing the laws he would be asked to enforce?

That is the situation now that President-elect Donald Trump announced his intention to nominate Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt to lead the Environmental Protection Agency. Pruitt has a record of opposing many of the clean air, clean water and environmental health protections that Americans overwhelmingly support.

These protections are the bedrock of this country’s environmental legacy. Protecting them is EPA’s job. Since its creation almost 50 years ago under Republican President Richard Nixon, EPA has focused on improving the lives of American families. And it has been very good at its job. As the U.S. economy has expanded, our air and water has become dramatically cleaner — and the economic benefits have outweighed the costs by as much as 30 to 1. This is an American success story.


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Effective and efficient environmental rules, however, have not been Pruitt’s focus. Instead, he has made attacking environmental protection the cornerstone of his political career. Since becoming Oklahoma’s attorney general five years ago, Pruitt has tried to stop national efforts to reduce soot and smog pollution that crosses interstate lines. He has sued EPA to stop limits on emissions of toxic mercury, arsenic, acid gases and other toxic pollutants from power plants. He has sought to block efforts to improve air quality in national parks and wilderness areas. Each time, he has failed, with courts dismissing his arguments and confirming EPA’s legal and scientific views.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/scott-pruitt-threat-article-1.2902332

Oh, and if anyone baited a trap, it sure wasn't Donald - not with his obsessive cleanliness routine.
 

Locutus

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I agree that there are too many fake news stories floating around, Loc but I can't see them 'goin' down' anytime soon. The internet is a very big place.


when a schmuck like Trump can out-poll the mainstream media as far as trust is concerned, they sure as hell aren't raising their stock.

they doth protest too much.

and yes, the internet (multiple sources) is where people should get their information from, not the cookie-cutter bleached teeth, millionaire elite talking network heads reading their sloppy copy to you at dinner time. they work for ratings, for ego, for vanity and arrogance.

in my opinion, each and every time they fukk up now, their stock will flounder more and more.

their base may remain but nobody is gonna trust these created-news, biased organizations financed by a handful of global billionaires. surprised the left is even ok with that bit.

anyway...

Trump wouldn’t be first president to mobilize National Guard for immigration enforcement

In 2010, former President Barack Obama said he would deploy 1,200 National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border. They were sent to Arizona, Texas, California and New Mexico. While National Guard troops were not authorized to arrest people found to be crossing the border illegally, they helped staff observation posts, monitor surveillance footage and build fences.


In 2006, former President George W. Bush called up 6,000 National Guard troops to California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. They were commissioned to help install border barriers, provide training and assist with border surveillance. The deployment was designed to support Customs and Border Protection agents in “executing logistical and administrative support, operating detection systems, providing mobile communications, augmenting border-related intelligence analysis efforts, and building and installing border security infrastructure.” Operation Jump Start, as the project was called, hoped to relieve Border Patrol agents from administrative duties so they could instead focus on border security.


AP reports Trump considers deploying National Guard as immigration enforcement | McClatchy DC