What Americans really think.

[SirJosephPorter]

"clique"

The rest of us aren't that clueless

that's an opinion, not a fact

Tyr, I did wonder what Cannuck was getting at, what he said didn’t make sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

Cannuck, I don’t mean to teach you English or anything like that, but 'cliché' means something that has become overly familiar or commonplace.

Reminds me of the time when a poster on Canada.com forum used the word ‘sparse’, when he actually meant ‘parse’.

 

[L Gilbert]

Sure we think. We think you Canadians are the embodiment of Officer Carl Levitt played by Ron Carey in the 1970's American TV sitcom 'Barney Miller'. An urbane version of Barney Fife.

*guffaws* That's an awesome depiction!
How about a combination of Pat Robertson, Donald Trump, and a fat, illiterate version of Jeff Foxworthy?

 

[L Gilbert]

.........

that's an opinion, not a fact

Oh, how cliche. lol

 

[Cannuck]

Cannuck, I don’t mean to teach you English or anything like that, but 'cliché' means something that has become overly familiar or commonplace.

There is no need to teach me English as I know the difference between a cliche and a clique. I'm not surprised that Tyr would be so pedantic as to start criticizing spelling mistakes but I expected a little more from you. From my perspective though, pointing out misspelled words simply means one cannot refute the ideas presented and as you can see, nobody has.

 

[lone wolf]

Sure we think. We think you Canadians are the embodiment of Officer Carl Levitt played by Ron Carey in the 1970's American TV sitcom 'Barney Miller'. An urbane version of Barney Fife.

Barney Miller.... Try as I might, I could never get that bass lick down....

 

[ironsides]

Jindal has to do some major rehabilitation of his image, after his disastrous performance opposite Obama. If Jindal is the Republican candidate in 2012, Obama will eat him for lunch during the debates, at least on style if not on substance.

Jindal needs to do major rebuilding before he is ready to leave the backwaters of Louisiana and make it to prime time.

I never really paid much attention to Jindal till I heard his Republican rebuttal speech. He does need some polishing up, but to quote him " Republicans need to worry less about fixing the party and more about what we can do to fix our country. Every chance we can agree with the President and new Congress we should. But where we disagree with spending, with tax increases, with stimulus plan, we need to stand up on principle and say what we would do differently." Not just disagree for the sake of disagreeing. I also respect him for turning down the stimulus money because he did not want to create a permanent state spending obligation.

Bobby Jindal has a ways to go before he can take on the establishment, but one he is a new face, and has time to learn.

 

[normbc9]

There are some American's who are now wondering if the correct name of our new President is George W. Obama. The change they were looking for hasn't really showed up yet.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

There is no need to teach me English as I know the difference between a cliche and a clique. I'm not surprised that Tyr would be so pedantic as to start criticizing spelling mistakes but I expected a little more from you. From my perspective though, pointing out misspelled words simply means one cannot refute the ideas presented and as you can see, nobody has.

Cannuck, it is not a question of correcting spelling mistakes. I for one, never correct anybody’s spelling mistakes.

So if in place of ‘clique’ you had written ‘cliqae’, that would be a spelling mistake. However, when you write ‘cliché’ instead of ‘clique’, the reasonable conclusion is that you didn’t know the difference between the two.

You can hardly blame tyr and me for concluding that you didn’t know the difference between ‘clique’ and ‘cliché’. If you say that you misspelt ‘clique’ and wrote ‘cliché’ instead, that is one Hell of a spelling mistake.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

There are some American's who are now wondering if the correct name of our new President is George W. Obama. The change they were looking for hasn't really showed up yet.

On the other hand, there are some who are saying that Obama is converting USA into a Socialist, Communist state, that Democracy will be at an end in USA shortly, and that Obama is governing from far left, much further left than he let on during the election campaign.

So different people will have a different perspective on the new regime. It depends upon what the majority of people think at the next election.

 

[ironsides]

"Anyone earning over 200 thou a year is the target for the increased taxes,and the weeping asnd wailing of these wealthy is filling the airwaves[must all be republicans!]"

This little group you have highlighted are the people already supporting everyone else. You don't think that those making $75,000 per less support any part of our goverment do you. They pay minimal taxes. Our countries are supported by the middle class, and unless your not making $200K+ you are not part of it. Of course the goverment likes to make people feel good by saying you are middle class if you make less than 200K, but you are only at various levels of poor.

 

[ironsides]

Liberal/Socialist to be more precise. Communist would become bloody. What ever the title, he will be judged in 2, then 4 years.

 

[ironsides]

We know one thing we (the U.S.) will not get a better medical system if we copy Canada's health system.


Report: Injured Natasha Richardson on flight to US.

So much for where the best doctors are.
Report: Injured Richardson on flight to US - Yahoo! News

 

[ironsides]

"WASHINGTON – Guaranteeing health insurance for all Americans may cost about $1.5 trillion over the next decade, health experts say. That's more than double the $634 billion 'down payment' President Barack Obama set aside for health reform in his budget.

Is this really worth the cost to insure roughly 44 million Americans, the other 280 million or so have insurance. What this will do is cause employers to drop insurance they already pay for now.

Health care overhaul may cost about $1.5 trillion

 

[SirJosephPorter]

We know one thing we (the U.S.) will not get a better medical system if we copy Canada's health system.


Report: Injured Natasha Richardson on flight to US.

So much for where the best doctors are.
Report: Injured Richardson on flight to US - Yahoo! News

Ironsides, the far right in USA likes to tout such ‘horror’ stories from other countries, such as Canada and Britain. I think USA has many more horror stories like this than Canada does; it is just that they are taken for granted, regarded as a matter of course.

By all indications, Canadian health care system is better than US system. Canada spends less (per person) on health care and gets more bang for the buck. Canadians have a greater life expectancy, less infant mortality compared to USA. Mothers receive more pre and post natal care compared to USA. Health care is more readily accessible for the vast majority of Canadians (the horror stories you cite notwithstanding).

However, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. I have seen opinion polls which show that a greet majority of Canadians are satisfied with their medical system, while a great majority of Americans are not.

I don’t know if there will be any health care reform in USA, the drug industry, the Republican smear machine (remember Thelma and Louise?) and the doctor’s lobby may be too strong for any reform to take place. They may well kill this attempt at reform, same as they killed the Clinton attempt. However, USA sorely needs health care reform. By all accounts, USA spends more than any other developed country (per person) and Americans enjoy the poorest health in just about the whole developed world. And incidentally, USA is the only country in the developed world to have a totally private system.

 

[ironsides]

Yes, our health system is expensive but it is the employers who pay for it. (health is mainly part of a employment package) The majority of U.S. working people have some sort of health plan, and when they retire they are taken care of by Medicare and usually a secondary plan that picks up what Medicare does not. Only about 44 million (I agree, to high a figure) have no medical at all (which I agree is wrong), but why should the rest lose what they now have now for something less in order to help cover those who have nothing. It is just to expensive a burden to put on those who have coverage. We are a country that is based upon private enterprise. Yes it needs improvement, but fix what we have, don't reinvent the wheel.

 

[Spade]

Good morning, ironsides,
You're an American. What do you think of astronaut Edgar Mitchell's contention?
edgar mitchell - Google Video

 

[Cannuck]

By all indications, Canadian health care system is better than US system.

No. By some indications Canada's is better than the US system and by some the US system is better than ours. The biggest problem we have in Canada is too many people try and paint health care debates as a US vs Canada argument. There are things that the US system does better than ours. We should try to understand why and copy them.

 

[YukonJack]

Reply to #5.

SirJosephPorter, I always said that despite you loud protestations to the contrary, you ARE, indeed, anti-American. You could NEVER resist an opportunity to denigrate America and Americans (unless, of course, they are flaming left-wingers, in which case you admire them). And now we have the proof by your own words.

You may have lived in the States - as you claim - but obviously you learned everything you know about America and Americans from Rick Mercer.

 

[YukonJack]

Reply to #11.

When a neighbour I know was deep in debt, his four-year-old daughter advised: "Pay with your VISA, dad!" And her five-year-old brother thought that she had a good "grasp on the mechanics of money".

 

[petros]

When a neighbour I know was deep in debt, his four-year-old daughter advised: "Pay with your VISA, dad!" And her five-year-old brother thought that she had a good "grasp on the mechanics of money".

The problem there is that adults think the same way.