So it's an invention that we have hundreds of thousands of immigrants living in poverty and that the cost of all these low income immigrants is $30 billion per year to government?Immigration is fine. It doesn't need reforming. We need politicians to focus on real problems, not invented ones.
Catholic Mass on Sunday is as ethnically and racially diverse as shopping at Superstore on a Saturday.There aren't as many schools of Islamic thought since Islam didn't break into as many sects as Christianity did. But Catholic law is pretty much consistent wherever you go.
Why don't you tell me the difference. For example, does a Muslim believe in Sharia law. Sharia law calls for women to be stoned to death for adultery. It calls for apostates and blasphemers to be executed, along with homosexuals, and institutionalizes severe misogyny. Is that Islam or Islamism?
So it's an invention that we have hundreds of thousands of immigrants living in poverty and that the cost of all these low income immigrants is $30 billion per year to government?
So you're saying Muhammed didn't say that and that every school of Islamic jurisprudence does not believe the appropriate punishment for leaving Islam is death?Your lack of understanding regarding Islam is quite humerous. You and Cliffy should get together on a thread and discuss the differences and similarities of Islam and Christianity. Andem could sell tickets
Poverty in Canada is not a significant issue. Let's focus on real problems instead of childish fears.
We're talking about Catholic law not mass. Can you tell me which version of Catholicism allows for divorce and remarriage, for example?Catholic Mass on Sunday is as ethnically and racially diverse as shopping at Superstore on a Saturday.
We're talking about Catholic law not mass. Can you tell me which version of Catholicism allows for divorce and remarriage, for example?
So you're saying Muhammed didn't say
Poverty has always been a major issue.
Do you seriously believe that Calgary's mayor supports killing people that convert to Christianity? Seriously? I mean seriously?
There aren't as many schools of Islamic thought since Islam didn't break into as many sects as Christianity did. But Catholic law is pretty much consistent wherever you go.
The Tunisian government did not write its constitution to adhere to Islamic thought or Sharia. If it did it would have put the death penalty in place for apostasy, which, so far as I am aware, is a literal interpretation of Muhammed's words “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57) and considered law by every stream of Islamic theology and jurisprudence.
The Koran does not guarantee freedom of worship. It accepts the freedom of the other two Abrahamic religions, Christianity and Judaism but only within a society where Islam holds primacy, and where Christians and Jews are forbidden rulership, have restricted rights, and pay a special tax.
Right. It's just my interpretation, because I can't read the actual words, and see the laws and behaviour in place throughout the Muslim world. Because like, that's impossible.
I find it interesting that although my OP only mentioned Islam in passing, that's all that progressives care about. I dared to diss their favourite religion and they're fulminating with rage over it. Never mind the fact that this topic is about immigration, not Islam, and that it clearly makes no economic sense to bring over tens of thousands of low-income earners from the middle east every year.
It doesn't matter what the Quran says. What matters is how people choose to interpret it. That's why some Christians are fine with homosexuality and some find it an abomination.
It's simply laughable to lump all Muslins together in terms of what they believe. Actually, laughable doesn't even begin to describe it.
Christians do not read the Bible to decide if they are fine with homosexuality or not.That's why some Christians are fine with homosexuality and some find it an abomination.
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Try again.Roman Catholic
It's irrelevant what Muhammad said, didn't say, is believed to have said. There are many interpretations of the Quran and the Bible.
To suggest that all Muslims believe in the same things is like saying Catholics and JWs agree with Anders Breivik
Try again.
There are very, very few interpretations of the bible from reputable Muslim scholars which differ significantly on social values.
Not all Muslims agree on the same things. I never said they do. I said that there are fairly universally recognized laws of Islam - recognized by Muslim scholars, and we see these laws come into play in Muslim states which base their legal code on the Koran. Which is why there is no Muslim state which treats women equally, no Muslim state which treats other religions with the same respect as Islam, and why you aren't going to see gay pride parades in Cairo or Kuala Lumpur, much less Tehran or Riyadh.
It's too bad there wasn't someone smart who could convince me. Know anyone smart?Unfortunately, it appears he/she is serious. That's the major problem with people like this. They really don't know what the hell they are talking about and just repeat, ad nauseam, what they have been told or heard on the subject with no regard as to the truth.
Religious freedom in Islam. No punishment for apostasy.
Plenty of quotes from the Qur'an on religious freedom there.
ISLAM IS PRO MONOGAMY | Sheikh Muhammad Abduh
It's too bad there wasn't someone smart who could convince me. Know anyone smart?
You are linking to an Amhadi Islam page. The Ahmadis are considered heretics by mainstream Islam, a cult by others. They're based in India, and hunted like dogs anywhere else in the Muslim world they go.
But... you knew that, right? I mean, you're one of the world's foremost experts on Islam... right?
{quote]It would seem that the Quer'an prescribes monogamy too.