OK, now that Blackleaf has proven so comprehensively that he doesn't know what a "blue-water navy" is any more than he knows what the word "decimate" means, what's next?
USS Roosevelt Visits the UK. Brits In Awe
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And that these other blue water navies were designated as such by the brits themselves... for what it is worth.
And when they put to sea with a US Fleet the US Admiral sticks them on Port Quarter watch.
Look up T-Bones word... "decimated"
did they bring their own escort ships with it as we dont have any of those to spare either.this might become a permanant solution to britains defence until the americans get fed up of funding our defence ~ realist, Cardiff
You're a bigger fool than I thought if you think the Russians aren't out there. They are doing donuts off your coast.
A blue water navy is something which the Chinese and Russians don't have. Or, if they have, they still do not possess the capabilities that the Royal Navy has.
And it's not just the navy. Russia and China may possess larger militaries as a whole than Britain (but they have much larger populations) but their militaries as a whole still do not possess the capabilities and the strength of the British military.
Decimated... diminished
In my time, we had a proper Navy. Now, it diminishes on a daily basis.~ Retired Navy, Merseyside
Within my lifetime we had an Army, Navy and Air Force worthy of the names. Now they are but shadows of they're former selves. But we have a Benefits bill that other countries are very envious of; only kidding. What a pathetic state this country has been reduced to.~ MPV, Portsmouth
In need of protection...
I think this is a response to Putin's recent 'sabre rattling' by sending Russian planes and ships close to our shores recently. The USA is showing that we have 'back up' if needed!~ Kate, Knottingley
Even Kate knows. lol
In my time, we had a proper Navy. Now, it diminishes on a daily basis.~ Retired Navy, Merseyside
Within my lifetime we had an Army, Navy and Air Force worthy of the names. Now they are but shadows of they're former selves. But we have a Benefits bill that other countries are very envious of; only kidding. What a pathetic state this country has been reduced to.~ MPV, Portsmouth
In need of protection...
I think this is a response to Putin's recent 'sabre rattling' by sending Russian planes and ships close to our shores recently. The USA is showing that we have 'back up' if needed!~ Kate, Knottingley
Even Kate knows. lol
Russia and China do not possess the global military reach that the UK possesses, not just in naval terms but in total military terms full stop. Now let that be the end of the matter.
Do the Yanks REALLY allow Russian and Chinese warships to sail with a US fleet?
I have listened to anything T-Bone steak has said for years now.
And you're an even bigger fool if you think the Russian Navy has a global military footprint, when it most clearly hasn't. They might be able to send a few of their rusting hulks into the English Channel but, when you look on a map (which would be something for a Yank), Britain isn't really that far away from Russia.
good thread for a laugh at blackleaf, but otherwise drooling mindless jingoism by regular citizenry unable to connect the irony of praising an inane budget for "defense" which directly impacts their own standard of living.
They are blue water navies and they are growing.
meanwhile we have not got one.....and no reconnasance nimrods...and harriers.....all gone.for scrap... and a micky mouse army after redundances..and more cuts every year..while RUSSIA grows stronger every day along with ISIS....We are a nation led by fools who risk our lives and freedom to save money.....then give it away to dictators in foriegn aid..~ Roy, Cheshire
Meanwhile you have computer drawings. You're lucky you have us to defend you.
psst... this is a real photo.
da faq?
I am sure he appreciates your attention.
They send them and your nation shudders.
As long as there is enough left over for your welfare check......what do you care?
Which is why you don't know what "decimated" means. Or, for that matter, "blue-water navy."
Well I wouldn't say they are. They're still way behind the RN for capability and do not have a global reach.
That's because we're building loads of hi-tech, powerful new ships for the greatest navy on Earth.
This is an English-speaking website. Now I would very much appreciate it if you could converse in that medium.
I don't give two hoots either way.
The British are a warrior race. It takes a lot to make us shudder.
I think I've won this argument long ago.
From this we deduce that Blackleaf's definition of "blue-water navy" is "equal or superior to the Royal Navy in capability and reach."
English isn't a medium. It's a language.
A blue-water navy is the United States Navy and the Royal Navy and, probably, the French Navy.
Most experts would not consider any other navy to be a true blue-water navy. The spud-munching Russkies and the slitty-eyed, jaundiced Chinkies have regional, localised navies. They do not have global, blue-water navies like the RN.
No, but then again I'm not making any claims about what most experts have to say. You are.
More of that thing about whatever lonely notion is rattling around in your skull being objective reality.
Of course YOU wouldn't. You have very little knowledge on military matters.
I can't recall many countries that invited Germans in to conquer then rule them. Even the French put up some resistance.
Its not going to be travelling around the world empty is it..lol Thats what its for. They are all on deck because obviously they are on standby mode, with the Russians doing their threatening flyovers. Wont be many of those this week i wouldn't imagine..lol~ George, London
You'd be wrong again to think that. People are getting a kick out of you embarrassing yourself.
It appears I know more than you do, still coming on here trying to tell me that the Chinese and Russian navies have a greater global reach than the Royal Navy.
The French were invaded by the Hun three times in 70 years. The British haven't been successfully invaded since 1066.
No. I won this argument in this silly, pointless thread about 48 hours ago.
Lying will not help you.
This is what YOU said.
And you were wrong.
China and Russia have blue water navies. You lose and moving the goal posts will not help.
Don't be such a fool. Look at all the comments and look at all your floundering.
More aircraft on one ship than the Royal Air Force have, including paper ones!~ Gray, Oxford
Look,useless 'English' Government....an aircraft carrier living up to it's job description,carrying PLANES!!!(and the Numpties in Scotland voted 'No'?).~ William, Beith