I knew I was a Canadian before Turdoh came to power, I never lost that identity.
Trudeau Was a Disaster for Canada
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Cliffy
Well said Cliffy though we can't forget to live in the present ,that all there is .
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Well said Cliffy though we can't forget to live in the present ,that all there is .
I felt being a Canadian when I become a Citizen in 1967 .Following year , a tragedy struck.
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The Truth About Trudeau by Bob Plamondon
If you hate Pierre, read it. It will help you define and defend your feelings.
If you think he was the greatest PM ever, read it. It will give you great pause........
Wonderful book.
If you hate Pierre, read it. It will help you define and defend your feelings.
If you think he was the greatest PM ever, read it. It will give you great pause........
Wonderful book.
..............And I didn't feel all that ****ing multicultural after he left.
You learned to type ? A tragedy for us also.
Gerry must admit I saw David's name too and said credibility Zero.
Why do so many people line their argument with people Like David
Frum or worse the Fraser Institute.
Trudeau the worst? Give me a break Trudeau is a guy personally I
didn't care for although he didn't create a disaster. Mulroney was the
worst and Harper will soon compete for the title of Worst PM.
It almost seems like the Tories come once in a generation like the locust
they destroy human advancement then everyone else spends their
time cleaning up after them. This time like the pine beetle the Tories
have hung around and we need a big electorate cold shoulder to get rid
of them, they are pests
Why do so many people line their argument with people Like David
Frum or worse the Fraser Institute.
Trudeau the worst? Give me a break Trudeau is a guy personally I
didn't care for although he didn't create a disaster. Mulroney was the
worst and Harper will soon compete for the title of Worst PM.
It almost seems like the Tories come once in a generation like the locust
they destroy human advancement then everyone else spends their
time cleaning up after them. This time like the pine beetle the Tories
have hung around and we need a big electorate cold shoulder to get rid
of them, they are pests
all Canadian PMs since nineteen and seventy-four have been exactly the same, bank (BIS) slaves. If you can see a difference, you're a very special person and should be in a cage at the circus.
What is the point of the above? Is it supposed to lend weight to the argument that followed? All it did for me was make me disinclined to spend my time on the voluminous text it was advertising. Personally I would say Lyin' Brian Mulrooner was the biggest loser PM of my lifetime, but opinions are like certain body parts - everybody has one.
I agree with you 100%. It is said of the Tories that when in power they inevitably circle their wagons and fire inwards. They keep forgetting that Canada is and always has been small "l" liberal. Periodically the reigning liberals (of whatever name) piss enough of us off at the same time that we dump them. The Tories then magically assume that means we want to change the way we have always been, so they piss us off and we toss them out for another lengthy time in the political wilderness. Give Mr. Harper too much more time and he will have arranged for us all to have shares in Exxon and honorary American citizenship. The US is no longer free and we are. No thanks, Mr. Harper.
The joke is generally on those lefties that plan on sponging off society for retirement.... State sponsored payments generally don't increase with inflation and the Feds/Prov always raise taxes to fund the 'freebies' that are expected.
Ironic
Perhaps when you reach puberty you will understand. It is difficult to explain to youngsters that have grown up with left leaning governments where center really is. Harper (our current PM) is about center in the grand scheme of things.
Now run along back to your sandbox while the adults have a conversation.
David Frum started offf as a speechwriter for Dubya, didn't he? Then he got turned off by the whole Neo-con / Tea Party GOP meltdowna dn spoke out against that, so he was reviled in some Republican circles, though (mostly because he turned out to be right) maintained street cred as a conservative.
That said, debates don't detmerine history. Pundits--not just Frum, but all of them--tend to be so consumed by the now that I find they have a poor understanding of history. Trudeau was a man of his place and time--his Jesuit teachings, Quebec in the 30's and 40's. Not easily amenable to our political and moral standards of today.
As a politician he was certainly a success, because he repeatedly won elections and rose to lead his party. I was just a little kid in his final days, so I don't really know about this NEP stuff and Quebec separation. I remember his picture in the classroom. :lol:
That said, debates don't detmerine history. Pundits--not just Frum, but all of them--tend to be so consumed by the now that I find they have a poor understanding of history. Trudeau was a man of his place and time--his Jesuit teachings, Quebec in the 30's and 40's. Not easily amenable to our political and moral standards of today.
As a politician he was certainly a success, because he repeatedly won elections and rose to lead his party. I was just a little kid in his final days, so I don't really know about this NEP stuff and Quebec separation. I remember his picture in the classroom. :lol:
Typical was the election where his platform was, 'If you elect me I'll quit,' and he won. Like all successful PM's he lasted so long that everybody wanted to boot him out. Then Joe Who came in and lasted just long enough to look stupid. Then we got really dumb and elected Lyin' Brian. He was a disaster. His government was known in Ottawa circles as the 5% government because federal contract bids needed to add an extra 5% for a PC donation.