Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban
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LNG...
Would the entirety of Howe Sound need to be evacuated if an oil tanker leaked like if an LNG tanker leaked?
Potash...
How about a potash bulker and their daily trips in and out? What would happen to Barnet and Burrard inlets if one of those puppies sank?
The hypocrisy is mind blowing.
Would the entirety of Howe Sound need to be evacuated if an oil tanker leaked like if an LNG tanker leaked?
Potash...
How about a potash bulker and their daily trips in and out? What would happen to Barnet and Burrard inlets if one of those puppies sank?
The hypocrisy is mind blowing.
Hunh. . . Indun wisdom say white man need oil. Indun need too, to run pickup truck. . . of my people!
Indun also love spirit of buffalo, spirit of deer, spirit of grass, spirit of tree.
Safest way to transport oil is pipeline. Saves buffalo, deer, grass, trees.
Hunh. We will smoke the pipe and think on this, while wannabes smoke crack pipe and squeal.
Think mebbeso problem is with pipes, not pipelines.
Indun also love spirit of buffalo, spirit of deer, spirit of grass, spirit of tree.
Safest way to transport oil is pipeline. Saves buffalo, deer, grass, trees.
Hunh. We will smoke the pipe and think on this, while wannabes smoke crack pipe and squeal.
Think mebbeso problem is with pipes, not pipelines.
That's not a question. That's a fact. Pipelines have the lowest spill per liter transported rate of any of the transportation methods.
Considering most of my views are on the moderate side your score might not to be something to be cheering about. Think of the rest of mt reply as as, 'Getting to know the inner me.' to see if the agreement remains a singular thing.
I was getting at BC opening up a 2nd shipping port with inroads to the interior as the southern route is about maxed out so any growth means less goods make it to the interior.
Plastic pellets should not be classified as a 'dangerous good' as a spill is easy to clean up. Pipelines probably have fewer accidents per year than airlines.
They are putting a bottleneck in their own revenue stream. The PM could declare it to be a national emergency and then the army puts it's through. They are not known for their environmental concerns.
There is your first blatant piece of false information. The business with them is through subsidiaries of the sane oil companies that do business in Canada. We buy from other places to prop up those companies, the US does the same thing. The 'special coal' they import and burn is the same thing rather than they need that coal to burn cleanly. That ash is just as toxic. Bag it up in plastic and drop it in a trench in the ocean.
PM Martin and PM Harper were big on the Canadian Government doing what is right as it fits the plans of big biz. What it did or didn't do to the Canadian economy was not on the list of 'important things'. You are cluing in that we are getting screwed, you are under the illusion there is a direction we can turn where that doesn't happen.
Canada is a backwater subsidiary of the US. Too poor without the natural resources to be worth long term development. People within a few hundred miles of the border go south when given the chance, Canada is to the north.
As pointed out above, he is just a cog in a wheel that is turned by others. His sandbox company (Coalas) did not decide where the roads went but they still got all the best contracts and will for some time to come.
Round II
The center of the world is Jerusalem rather than Ottawa. Back to square one for you Buddy. 'How to be a good little Injun 191'
Oil Companies don't build during the low prices that come in a 'glut'. Why make a tiny profit when you can make a huge one??
Bankers like people who run that up at an insane level, not so much for the ones that even hint at bringing it down. Ask JFK, oh wait they killed him because he was going to do just that. Last Politician with a pair of balls apparently. (Libya in the Mid-east)
Don't bet the farm on it.
Hemp, putting in in big letter won't helpyou see that is the direction that brings in more than oil ever has and ever will. The US just made it legal watch them jump on the train and Canada is left standing at the Station, . . . again.
I'm impressed, you take up heroin as your 'Sherlock button' seems to have been working for a moment.
You say that like the US isn't also just another puppet made in our image.
Really? Perhaps making simple tasks as difficult and as expensive as possible is part of 'their charm' rather than they 'keep at no matter how difficult the task'. Let's hope they don't start believing it.
The Rez would be a good location for a Pirate Web Site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUyq6C3bZQ&index=12&list=RD0K2b5S3bafM
Have You Heard
The one with the highest paid infiltrators. The look at who is the most vocal at Indian Affairs and waterboard both and you will have the mole.
Why don't you have the answer ready for them as they sound a bit 'slack' at best?
The Oil Companies have left them enough poisoned lakes that they have justification to be suspicious.They are naive if they think words on a contract means anything to them.
Perhaps the 'win' is big oil showing thel lost a contract thet thought they would get. Why build a pipeline to nowhere?
Who doesn't in that line of work, at least Lawyers don't openly beg in public.
The list is almost endless, each governments inherits the one the losing side had. The list is never meant to get any shorter.
. . . and then some.
Hope I didn't shatter any of your illusions.
Probably the only thing more annoying than one of STB's loooong train-wreck posts complete with excessive abuse of exclamation marks, question marks, symbols, capitalization, etc.. is someone who would actually take the time to parse such a travesty of a post and respond to every sentence.
Frankly I'm surprised anyone even reads such schlock.
Frankly I'm surprised anyone even reads such schlock.
Don”t forget Neptune Coal Terminal . Or the sulphuric shipped out of North Shore Terminals and Port Moodey
Does it disappear in the atmosphere ? Would that not create more atmospheric gases?
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Oh no........petros.......there are LOTS of tribes protesting according to our LIE-beral friendly media goons!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes- MULTIPLE TRIBES are whining according to the courts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again- your LIE-beral logic is NOT supported by any real facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ONLY REAL FACT we have is that natives and assorted protestors see Kinder Morgan as an excuse to blackmail white people!!!!!
As others have documented here- lots of matives have hired on to various pipeline and oil field related jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GREED is the motivating factor here- and LIE-berals DO NOT want a tsrong healthy economy because people living that way are HARD TO BULLY AND BRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals want us poverty stricken and desperate for LIE-beral aid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is much easier to BUY the votes of desperate people and LIE-berals know this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is why they are importing so many illegals and other third world people who will NEED LIE-beral aid for decades- and maybe for generations to come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals are buying votes on a staggering scale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And petros- your comment above that the Squamish natives are allegedly opposed to an oil pipeline even though you say they have signed on for Liquid Natural gas shipping indicates the scale and scope of HYPOCRISY by natives and LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Kinder Morgan pipeline WILL BE BUILT - RIGHT AFTER Our idiot Boy Justin hits the unemployment line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Here are some interesting thoughts that should be considered as we watch our LIE-beral overlords flounder around trying to create an electric Toy car business:
Here is an article that LIE-berals will find awkward. With some comments of my own in brackets):
GUEST COLUMN: It's capitalism, not big government, that improves environment
Special to Postmedia Network. Published: March 26, 2018. Updated: March 26, 2018 5:56 PM EDT
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
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By Matthew Lau
The common refrain of climate-concerned Liberals, to justify massive government interference of commerce and wasteful environment subsidies and spending, is that “the environment and the economy go together.” Carbon taxes, stricter fuel regulations, restrictions on international trade – all these things, we are told, will bring both economic and environmental benefit.
(WE now have more than enough evidence to state emphatically that LIE-beral carbon crap only benefits LIE-berals and their allies; and their carbon crap only cleans cash from wallets and leaves the dirt in the air!)
The federal government recently announced its “Low Carbon Economy Challenge.” More than $500-million in corporate welfare and other spending was justified as part of a plan to ensure “a safe climate, healthy environment, and prosperous future.” When Liberals announce millions of dollars in unnecessary costs for taxpayers, consumers, and private industry, the country becomes richer and the environment becomes cleaner. Amazing!
(Is it not ODD that Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals began their implementation of carbon credits by EXEMPTING the 150 biggest companies in Ontari-owe? Just as in Europe- a carbon tax is a job killer and the LIE-beral version which is so closely modelled on the European version- will result in the new tax being paid
ONLY by small biz and ordinary people! While tax revenue from carbon crap will be used to maintain the LIE-beral gravy train for their pals!)
There is, however, a major problem with the Liberal narrative. It’s that in the past few centuries, mankind (or peoplekind, according to the Prime Minister) has become spectacularly richer while the environment has become far cleaner. This happened even before Justin Trudeau, Rachel Notley, and Kathleen Wynne arrived on the scene to carbon-tax-and-spend humanity into prosperity and cleanliness.
What is the source of the material prosperity and environmental cleanliness we enjoy today? The answer is capitalism, trade, and fossil fuels – not government control, taxes, and subsidized solar power. For example, cities were cleaned by the invention and widespread use of automobiles, which rid the streets of horses and manure that attracted flies and disease. The invention of refrigerators improved cleanliness by curtailing bacteria growth in food. The window screen – another product of private industry – keeps homes clean from insects.
And then there’s soap. A couple centuries ago, soap was homemade, and involved boiling water mixed with ashes mixed with fat over an open fire for hours. Most people bathed only once monthly and rarely washed their hair. When they did wash, the soap left residue after being used. Today, thanks to profit-driven businesses, the quality of soap is much better and is affordable even for the poor – though not in socialist Venezuela, where people are dying because even some hospitals have no soap.
On a larger scale, the story is the same – capitalism cleans. In the 1980s, the Communist world suffered far worse pollution than the free world. The United Nations declared East Germany the most polluted country in Europe and Greenpeace said it was the most polluted in the world. According to a Fraser Institute study from 2014 examining more than 100 countries over the span of a decade, the most economically free countries “experience much cleaner air quality” than the countries with the least economic freedom.
Of course, government does have some responsibility to constrain pollution. Property rights and a justice system that protects people from damage to their person and property are important both for environmental protection and economic growth. But when government oversteps these boundaries with arbitrary and wasteful subsidies and regulation, the economy and environment both suffer.
Some people might point to global warming as a failure of free markets. However, as economics professor Don Boudreaux has explained, the alleged consequences of global warming – filth, starvation, and shorter life expectancy – “are not the recent consequences of climate change. They are the ages-old consequences of persistent and widespread poverty.”
(LIE-berals are right to be concerned about climate change! The problem is that NO LIE-beral policy or program ADDRESSES climate change in any effective way! LIE-berals REFUSE to take REAL action on climate change because it might cost them VOTES from Hogs)
(LIE-berals want to blame climate change on the waitress who drives her car home after finishing her late shift because she does not feel safe on the streets late at night thanks to LIE-beral judges and their “catch and release” handling of career criminals!)
(LIE-berals want to punish people who regularly drive because they live in places not well served by public transit! LIE-berals do not care that you cannot find a decent place to live near your work because the available options either cost too much since you cannot afford to bid against civil service union Hogs or because you do not wish to live in or near TCHC slum landlords with their collection of tenant pimps, criminals, prostitutes and drug addicts!)
(LIE-berals blame the waitress while IGNORING the masses of gravy train riding civil service union Hogs ripping through the countryside on atv`s and snowmobiles and Sea-doos! And LIE-berals blame car drivers for pollution while ignoring the electrically powered compressed air bubble systems that run 6 months per year and prevent ice from forming around the valuable cedar docks of Hog cottagers!)
(LIE-berals IGNORE the evidence that CONDEMNS airplanes for providing the MAJOR CONTRIBUTION to global warming- while also ignoring the reality that it is overpaid Hogs who do most of the flying!)
(LIE-berals do not to discuss the fact that air quality across the planet IMPROVED in the year after the 9/11 terror attack when 25 percent of the world airline fleet was grounded! LIE-berals also ignore the compelling evidence that “contrails” those white lines of water vapour produced by high flying jets are the LEADING CAUSE of global warming!)
(Yes- LIE-berals refuse to discuss the truth- that the quickest way to reverse global warming is to cut back on gravy for Hogs! WE know that those with the biggest carbon foot print are also those with the highest wages and Hogs consistently get at least ONE THIRD HIGHER PAY than other Cdns! And of course Hog pension are so lavish that it is ILLEGAL for citizens in private companies to get such a rate of return on pension investment as Hogs are entitled to!)
Across countries and over time, the consequences of widespread poverty were conquered only when and where societies embraced capitalism and trade. Boudreaux therefore concluded that “the worst environmental calamity is the absence of capitalism.” The evidence shows this to apply to climate calamity, too.
According to environmentalist Bjorn Lomborg, the death risk from climate-related disaster has plummeted 99% in the past century. Surely these happy results cannot be attributed to the climate-driven economic interventions enacted by modern politicians.
Matthew Lau is an economics writer in Toronto and a contributor to Canadians for Affordable Energy.
(LIE-berals are clearly NOT driven by climate change issue! Rather, LIE-berals use climate change issues as a false front for their selfish and irresponsible mouldy green SCAMS!)
(The LIE-beral implementation of mouldy green renewable energy projects in Ontari-owe DID NOT lead to cleaner air here- for the simple reason that mouldy green energy is so unreliable that natural gas fired electrical generators MUST be kept fully fired up- 24/7- and ready to take over the very instant the sun stops shining or the wind fails to blow as expected!)
(LIE-berals claim they are helping the environment by converting 2 coal fired plants to burn natural gas instead- and one must agree that it is a help- though it is A DROP IN THE ATMOSPHERIC BUCKET since natural gas is still a fossil fuel- though cleaner than coal!!!!!!)
(If LIE-berals were animated by climate concern rather than the pursuit of gravy- then WHY did they buy into a Yankee electrical generating company that USES COAL generators?)
(If LIE-berals were truly the environmentalists and spound money managers they CLAIM to be, then why are they DUMPING water- meaning diverting water AWAY from hydro dams im order to make room for their mouldy green and very costly wind and solar power?)
(LIE-beral environmental policy is a TOTAL FAILURE- that only cleans cash from wallets and leaves the dirt in the air!)
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Poor Hoid.....he thinks that asking people where Howe Sound is located is some sort of valid defense of disgraced LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!
Others on this site have told us that natives around Squamish HAVE SIGNED ON to the LNG deal- but that they are OPPOSED to the Kinder Morgan pipeline!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have stated repeatedly that natives regard pipeline protests as a fine way to blackmail white people into throwing money at them!!!!!
Natives from places many miles from the Kinder Morgan route- people who will never be personally harmed if a disaster occurs- thanks to how far away they live- routinely show up to harass white people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where LIE-berals are concerned- rights are IRRELEVANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All that LIE-berals care about is votes- and GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And disgraced LIE-berals are running OUT OF BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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With regard to pipelines- LIE-berals are behaving in exactly the fashion that EARNED them the nickname LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why did the Harper govt NOT buil;d any pipelines??????????????????????
BECAUSE building pipelines is the business OF OIL COMPANIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And WHY is the LIE-beral govt of Our idiot Boy the proud new owner of a partly built pipeline bought from Yankee owners at Kinder Morgan?????????????????????????????
Because Our idiot Boy is up to his neck in trouble over NAFTA and does NOT want more trouble and DOES NOT want to be seen deliberately SCREWING Yankee investors and Cdn oil workers by simply killing the Kinder Morgan project that had been approved by Harper govt!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would BE VERY HARD for Our idiot Boy to tell the world "Canada is open for business" -right after screwing the Asia Pacific trade deal and right after letting a pack of rabid bigots shut down Kinder Morgan while LIE-beals shrugged and watched in idle amusement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KInder Morgan investors had already spent $4.7 billion dollars on their pipeline and you cannot whine about fair NAFTA deals for Canada and then screw Yankee pipeline investors by shutting down their projects.........
WITHOUT being publicly exposed as a MORON over his deliberate anti Yankee stance on national security issues that are the REAL REASON for the stalled NAFTA TALKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And anybody who has listened to the speeches of Our bigoted idiot Boy Justin KNOWS he is quite prepared to ruin the Cdn economy just so long as he gets to thumb his nose at Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And anybody who has examined LIE-beral policy KNOWS that if Our idiot Boy wins the election in 2019 - he will take it a carte blanche to DESTROY the Kinder Morgan pipeline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kinder Morgan WILL BE BUILT - RIGHT AFTER Our idiot Boy and his moronic minions hit the unemployment line!!!!!!!!!!!!!