Been a while since an on duty police officer has been convicted of murder in TO.
From what I understand officers charged in similar circumstances were all found not guilty.
Been a while since an on duty police officer has been convicted of murder in TO.
As long as he isn't armed and surrounded by peers to impress, he'll be fine.True. I'm not fearful of this guy being out on the street while awaiting trial.
Did the others discharge 6 more rounds after the guy was down?From what I understand officers charged in similar circumstances were all found not guilty.
As long as he isn't armed and surrounded by peers to impress, he'll be fine.
Did the others discharge 6 more rounds after the guy was down?
Have to wait for the details on this before I make judgment. Initial impression is that the cop does not handle stress well--someone who tazers a guy who's been hit nine times, to my mind, is not behaving very rationally. Technically speaking, agressively brandishing a knife can be legitimate grounds for lethal force though.
Those extra six shots almost landed him first degree murder.I do not know. Just posting what was noted in a number of recent news articles regarding Officers charged with manslaughter.
Those extra six shots almost landed him first degree murder.
6 shots, pause then 3 more, pause then Tasered.
The SIU in Ontario is Freaking Useless when investigating Officers that are alleged to have committed serious crimes / abuse of authority. When Marin was there it was different.
The Officers training is to shoot to kill. Not wound, not shoot the knife out of his hand.
I smells a rat.
That's what murders do.I believe it was three shots, a pause, and six more shots, at a range of what, ten or twelve feet? The guy went down after the first three shots. I don't know why the officer fired the next six shots.
I believe it was three shots, a pause, and six more shots, at a range of what, ten or twelve feet? The guy went down after the first three shots. I don't know why the officer fired the next six shots.
They're trained to shoot center of mass, not to kill. Their job isn't executioners, it's to enforce the law and protect citizens.
Center of body mass is kill. What do you think it means. Your heart is located in that very center.
I believe it was three shots, a pause, and six more shots, at a range of what, ten or twelve feet? The guy went down after the first three shots. I don't know why the officer fired the next six shots.
Those last 6 almost gave him a full on first degree murder. He was lucky the Crown didn't proceed with that charge.colpy said:If he is convicted, the last 6 will be what does it.
They're trained to shoot center of mass, not to kill. Their job isn't executioners, it's to enforce the law and protect citizens.
Those last 6 almost gave him a full on first degree murder. He was lucky the Crown didn't proceed with that charge.
6 shots, pause then 3 more, pause then Tasered.
The SIU in Ontario is Freaking Useless when investigating Officers that are alleged to have committed serious crimes / abuse of authority. When Marin was there it was different.
Also 2nd degree murder has a very high standard, that the Officer intended to kill. Rather hard to prove.
Manslaughter would have been the right charge.
The Officers training is to shoot to kill. Not wound, not shoot the knife out of his hand.
I smells a rat.
Why James Forcillo was charged with murder in Yatim shooting - Canada - CBC News
Second-degree murder implies intent to kill the victim. The Crown brings a manslaughter charge when it does not believe the killing was intentional.
Selwyn Pieters, a Toronto lawyer with considerable experience representing the families of people shot by police, told CBC News that while a charge of second-degree murder does leave the judge and jury with a number of options, including opting for a less charge, he thinks the charge in Forcillo's case should have been manslaughter.
"It's going to be a more difficult hurdle for the Crown to surmount if it's second degree," Pieters said. He described prosecuting this case as a "Herculean task."
Pieters also noted that jurors have been reluctant to convict police officers acting in the line of duty. "Rarely do we have cases where police officers are charged and heard before a jury on serious offences and a verdict of guilty is returned," he said.
INTENT
DELIVERY SYSYEM.
The guy had all three while on his feet,