To IMPEACH ????

Cliffy

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Why People Ignore Facts

When it comes to reasoning, identity trumps truth.

Our ability to reason did not develop simply to help us find the truth. Instead, reasoning evolved to fulfill fundamentally social functions, like cooperating in large groups and communicating with others.
This is one of the arguments advanced in “The Enigma of Reason,” a book by cognitive scientists Hugo Mercier and Dan Sperber. According to their theory of reasoning, reason’s primary strengths are justifying beliefs we already believe in and making arguments to convince others. While this kind of reasoning helps us cooperate in a social environment, it does not make us particularly good at truth-seeking. It also makes us fall prey to a number of cognitive biases, like confirmation bias, or the tendency to search for information that confirms what we already believe.
Their ideas also help explain why politics seems to make us so bad at reasoning. If most of reasoning is for social cohesion instead of truth-seeking, then belonging to a particular political party should distort our reasoning and make us pretty bad at finding the truth.
A number of studies document the many ways in which our political party distorts our reasoning. One study found that people who had strong math skills were only good at solving a math problem if the solution to the problem conformed to their political beliefs. Liberals were only good at solving a math problem, for instance, if the answer to that problem showed that gun control reduced crime. Conservatives were only good at solving this problem if the solution showed that gun control increased crime. Another study found that the higher an individual’s IQ, the better they are at coming up with reasons to support a position—but only a position that they agree with.
Belonging to a particular political party can also shape our perception. In one study, researchers were asked to watch a video of protestors. Half of the participants were told the people in the video were protesting the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. The other half were told that the people were protesting an abortion clinic. Liberals reported saying the protestors were more violent and disruptive if they were told they were watching abortion clinic protestors, and the opposite was true for conservatives—even though everyone was watching the same video.



More: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/words-matter/201810/why-people-ignore-facts?
 

spilledthebeer

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There are indications that the "quo" was statements that the Ukrainian government was investigating the Bidens, and possibly fabricated "evidence" against them.

And by the way, when I say nobody gives two shits about YO, it's just my colorful way of pointing out that you aren't an American, and you have no interest and no say in our government and its procedures.

Just as I had no interest and no say in your recent election. I expressed a mild preference for the Tories, specifically because they tend to be more obedient. But it ain't like I cared anywhere close to the way your heart's just bleeding for Il Dope.




YOU SAY: "there are indications that Ukraine was investigating the Biden`s and POSSIBLY FABRICATING EVIDENCE AGAINST THEM"??????????????????


WTF????????????????????????????


The ONLY EVIDENCE PRESENTED SO FAR............................


is that Trump made the "infamous" phone call TO GET AN INVESTIGATION STARTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You LIE-berals really need to sit done and GET YOUR LIES IN ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But that ALLEGATION that Ukraine is fabricating evidence is a NEAT NEW slippery slimy dodge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just the kind of Fake News a Lawyer would imagine to be useful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And THAT IS WHY TRUMP will NEVER be impeached!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are piling up one slimy blob of Fake News after another!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals are trying to build a firm strong impeachment case out of the equivalent of POLITICAL JELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And they cannot figure out why their "evidence" keeps slip/sliding away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL LIE-berals operate on the same principle- one most recently described by Climate Barbie- our Cdn environment minister............


who unwisely told us "that if you repeat lies often enough then people will come to believe them"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That DELIBERATE LIE-beral acknowledgement of the utility of Fake News...............................


is why LIE-berals are GOING TO FAIL in their efforts to win over public opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The worst of it is -that IT IS LIE-berals who are most easily swayed by those REPEATED LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Sen. Graham: Impeachment 'dead on arrival' in Senate if Dems keep whistleblower from testifying

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., accused House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., of not caring about the truth, and said Schiff's impeachment efforts will go nowhere unless he calls the anonymous whistleblower to come forward and testify about their complaint against President Trump.
House Republicans over the weekend submitted a list of witnesses they would like to call for public testimony during the impeachment inquiry, but Schiff -- who is running the probe -- was swift to reject the request to have the whistleblower come forward.
"I consider any impeachment in the House that doesn’t allow us to know who the whistleblower is to be invalid because without the whistleblower complaint we wouldn’t be talking about any of this," Graham told Fox News' "Sunday Morning Futures," stating that the process would be unfair if the person who brought the complaint in the first place does not have to face questioning.
If the House inquiry results in President Trump being impeached, the matter would then go to a trial before the Senate, which Graham says would be doomed if the whistleblower does not come forward.
“It’s impossible to bring this case forward, in my view, fairly without us knowing who the whistleblower is and having a chance to cross-examine them about any biases they may have," he said. "So if they don’t call the whistleblower in the House, this thing is dead on arrival in the Senate.”
Democrats claim that the whistleblower's testimony is irrelevant at this point because the witnesses who have already testified have provided more information on President Trump's July 25 phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the heart of the inquiry than the whistleblower would be able to give.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., who runs the inquiry, said in a recent letter to the committee's ranking Republican Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., that the inquiry already "has gathered an ever-growing body of evidence -- from witnesses and documents, including the president's own words in his July 25 call record -- that not only confirms but far exceeds the initial information in the whistleblower's complaint."
Graham, however, is accusing Schiff of being disingenuous in his fact-finding efforts.
"This is not about Schiff finding the truth, this is about Schiff trying to destroy the Trump presidency," Graham said.
 

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Mulvaney��s move to join impeachment testimony lawsuit rankles Bolton allies



Former national security adviser John Bolton views the acting White House chief of staff as a key participant in the administration��s effort to pressure Ukraine.

source: WAPO
 

JLM

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Mulvaney��s move to join impeachment testimony lawsuit rankles Bolton allies



Former national security adviser John Bolton views the acting White House chief of staff as a key participant in the administration��s effort to pressure Ukraine.

source: WAPO


Can't we get away from this shit today and think about the sacrifices enabling us to enjoy what we have today?
 

Cliffy

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“Lock Him Up” And “Traitor” Chants Greet Trump At New York Veteran’s Day Parade

Donald Trump did not get a warm reception at a Veterans Day event in New York, where he gave a speech behind bulletproof glass that couldn’t block out the nearby chants of “lock him up” and “impeach and remove” from protesters. The demonstrators at Madison Square Park brought whistles just in case their chanting wasn’t loud enough.


More: https://god.dailydot.com/protests-trump-veterans-day
 

Ocean Breeze

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Pentagon official says OMB offered no explanation for withholding aid to Ukraine in mid-July despite questions



Laura Cooper, deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia, told House impeachment investigators last month that the Pentagon sought clarification from the administration for the hold-up of funds on July 18.

source: WAPO
 

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“Lock Him Up” And “Traitor” Chants Greet Trump At New York Veteran’s Day Parade

Donald Trump did not get a warm reception at a Veterans Day event in New York, where he gave a speech behind bulletproof glass that couldn’t block out the nearby chants of “lock him up” and “impeach and remove” from protesters. The demonstrators at Madison Square Park brought whistles just in case their chanting wasn’t loud enough.


More: https://god.dailydot.com/protests-trump-veterans-day
they best get used to the lock him up chant

going to be a whole lot of it in 2020