Titanic disaster blamed on Moon

WLDB

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I wonder if those fifteen hundred people would have sailed on that ship if they had known that the ship was not yet "unsinkable" and that it would never be unsinkable. Canard made a big deal about the ship being "unsinkable when they knew it wasn't. The number of life boats was criminal.

Cunard didnt own or build the ship. They had the Lusitania and Mauretania, also believed to be unsinkable, also sailing without enough lifeboats. Almost no major liner had enough lifeboats for all on board at the time. It wasnt criminal as the law allowed it. The laws didnt keep up with the size of ships. It would have been easier to just say all ships must have enough lifeboats for all on board rather than base it on tonnage. Titanic did actually have more lifeboats than the law required. The death toll also could have been a lot lower had the lifeboats been filled to capacity. Another 450-500 people could have been saved easily.
 

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Not to mention that they filled a bunch of boats with women only. If there were no more women around they lowered the boat leaving men behind watching a partially filled boat cast away.
 

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I wonder if those fifteen hundred people would have sailed on that ship if they had known that the ship was not yet "unsinkable" and that it would never be unsinkable.

I'll be you they would have no problems filling that boat with passengers.

People will attend the opening of an envelope as long as it's "new".
 

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Cunard didnt own or build the ship. They had the Lusitania and Mauretania, also believed to be unsinkable, also sailing without enough lifeboats. Almost no major liner had enough lifeboats for all on board at the time. It wasnt criminal as the law allowed it. The laws didnt keep up with the size of ships. It would have been easier to just say all ships must have enough lifeboats for all on board rather than base it on tonnage. Titanic did actually have more lifeboats than the law required. The death toll also could have been a lot lower had the lifeboats been filled to capacity. Another 450-500 people could have been saved easily.

It slipped my mind that J.P. Morgan owned the Titanic and that he had his own private cabin on that ship. He was supposed to sail with her on the maiden voyage but for some reason he didn't. There were a lot of these so-called "unsinkable" ships around at that time: the Titanic, Britannic, Mauretania, Lusitania, a couple others, (sp), and they all sank. (granted, some were torpedoed) The number of life boats rquired was far less than weas needed.
 

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It slipped my mind that J.P. Morgan owned the Titanic and that he had his own private cabin on that ship. He was supposed to sail with her on the maiden voyage but for some reason he didn't. There were a lot of these so-called "unsinkable" ships around at that time: the Titanic, Britannic, Mauretania, Lusitania, a couple others, (sp), and they all sank. (granted, some were torpedoed) The number of life boats rquired was far less than weas needed.

He cancelled at the last minute because he was ill. Probably saved his life, then again Ismay survived. The cabin he was supposed to be in was re-produced in the 1997 film as the one where Rose stays. The set was pretty much perfect in terms of accuracy.

Also the Mauretania didn't sink, it was scrapped in the mid 30s alongside Titanic's sister ship Olympic.

Lusitania was another one sunk by stupidity. The Admiralty knew there was a submarine in the area and could have diverted the Lusitania away but didn't. That was a very lucky shot for the submaring though. Normally one torpedo wouldn't have done much to a ship that size but they hit in exactly the worst spot.

Not to mention that they filled a bunch of boats with women only. If there were no more women around they lowered the boat leaving men behind watching a partially filled boat cast away.

Indeed, second officer Lightoller interpreted "women and children first" to mean "women and children ONLY." That led to a lot of people dying unnecesarrily. On the other side of the ship first officer Murdoch took the order as "women and children first" and if no women were around let men in. He may have felt some guilt, having been the officer in charge at the time of the collision. 2/3 of the survivors were from boats he was in charge of filling and lowering.