They would also be second or third line players on most other teams. BTW - "special" isn't a point a game. Greztky/Kurri was special. Hedberg/Nilsson was special. Oates/Hull was special....The Sedin sisters are decent players. There are lots of decent players.
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They would also be second or third line players on most other teams. BTW - "special" isn't a point a game. Greztky/Kurri was special. Hedberg/Nilsson was special. Oates/Hull was special....The Sedin sisters are decent players. There are lots of decent players.
I completely disagree with that analogy, concerning the sedins, and the fact that you
have to call them sisters, leaves me to believe you are trying to convince yourself that
they are ordinary, when you know they're top ten in the league, check stats.
They are their best together, no different than many top rated forwards were their
best when paired with their other top forward, that is chemistry and very valuable
between players, over the years.
They have improved each and every year, and I expect them do the same this year.
If Gillis had thought as you do, he would have let them walk, good thing he didn't, then there would have
been a frenzy of teams outbidding each other to get them.
Not only are they top line players, they are fine individuals, very classy, don't ever
whine about anything, play their hearts out and are loyal to their team, I hope now
that they will be with the canucks till they retire, and in my opinion they are as
close to the team and the fans as Trevor Linden was, and still is.
I can see that you wouldn't want them, I'm glad of that, because I do, and we have them.
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What stats? Scoring stats?
If that's what you mean, the only real important stats are points per game and goals. In ppg, neither is in the top twenty. As for goals, they are 27th and 88th.
Of course, knowledgeable hockey fans understand that stats are for unknowledgable hockey fans. But for the sake of arguing, You can go by stats and it backs up what I've been saying. The would not be top line players on pretty much half of the teams. If you think otherwise, by all means list the teams that you think they would.
As for calling them sisters. That does not mean they are ordinary. It also does not mean I wouldn't want them on my team. I just wouldn't pay them what they are being paid nor would I try and build a team around them.
Scoring stats - points.
Sure there are teams where they wouldn't be top line, but that team would be
a very deep team, talent wise, if they were the second line, as that means
top line, contains super stars, or at least one super star along with two other
first liners.
Until last season I wouldn't not have suggested they be first liners, but last
season they proved their worth, a couple of very valuable players.
Their value $ wise, is what they had to be paid, if Gillis wanted them to stay.
That's the way it goes I'm afraid for many players, if you want them, then you
have to pay them.
Players get paid for what they have done, not for what they are going to do.
eg. Naslund got his big money for what he did when with the 'west coast express', well, that line became lazy and unproductive, lost the love of the
fans, and went down the toilet, just see what bertuzzi is getting these days,
and we know what happened to naslund, morrison is back now,(washington) and healthy,
so he should have a pretty good year, but still no big money, that's over.
If the twins begin to do the same, they will go the way of many big named
players, who just can't continue at that level, we'll see, somehow I can't imagine
them slipping, they are in their prime, attitudes and work ethic, second to none, and very loyal and true, so they should continue to get better for a few
more years yet.
If canucks can build a line that is more productive than the twins, then they
can be the second line, and what a strong team they will have, every GMs
dream to have first and second lines that strong.
The Nucks have no room to build anything.
You continue to talk around the issue of the Sedins' place on other teams. I'm willing to make a list. Are you?
no, i'm not in a competition with you, I gave my opinion, that should be good
enough. I haven't talked around anything, not interested in lists, won't
prove anything, I stated how I look at the sedins.
The canucks have allready built all summer, and gillis isn't finishedyet, he is
over the cap now, so there is another deal looming before Oct. 1
Everything we both say is 'opinion', that's what it's all about, how we all see
these situations from our own vatage points.
Let the season begin, and we'll all see how it all goes, one can't know anything,
they are all human beings, with talent and faults.
All the teams want to win, and I haven't got a clue who will come out on top.
I don't really care either, I just want canucks to be competitive, play hard,
stay with the pack, and make the playoffs, then a new season begins, injury
plays a very important part.
I see Demitra won't be back till late October, had pretty serious shoulder surgery,
will take awhile, he is so hot and cold anyway, never know how his game will
be, but he is talented, and shows it just enough to keep us hoping for more.
Doesn't cost me anything to watch them on my TV, only pay per view games,The Canucks are just like Vancouver, over rated and over priced
and all the games I want on NHL center ice, for the rest of the league.
I live on the island, don't go to games, so don't have the problem of having to
pay for ticktets, I don't even think a bout it, but obviously over 18,000 others
do, as the place is sold out every game.
It's very interesting that you see this as a competition. I just thought that maybe you could back up what you were saying. I guess I was wrong.
Everything we say to each other is 'opinion', even if I gave a list, it also would
be my opinion, then you would challenge my list with your list, it is 'opinion',
my friend, and in good sport.
We have differing opinions, I think sedins are good first line players, and on
some teams they would be second, you think they are second, nothing complicated about that, we can't prove who is wrong or right by showing
a list, of yet more opinion.
I back up my opinion, by the number of times I have watched them and the
rest of the league play, and by their stats, and that's it, nothing more,
and if you disagree with that, I respect that, not a problem.
Juan, I enjoy your phonetic spelling of some of the player names...so you meant to type D. Sedeen, and H. Sedeen, right?
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