The mystery of sunspots
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Now there is not any sunspots, and the sun is quiet as do they say: http://www.sidc.be
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Ah, quotes taken out of context by reporters. By, "The origin and stability of sunspots has been one of the long-standing mysteries in solar physics. I am delighted to see that with SOHO we are beginning to crack this problem," Fleck is merely drumming up support for his project. What we don't understand about the `origin' of the sun spots is the exact magnetic structure interior to our beloved star. We understand perfectly what is going on: a magnetic flux tube is breaching the surface of the sun and pulling hot plasma with it. Did you know that sun spots always occur in pairs?
Sun spot intensity is periodic and that they migrate from the poles down to the equator and vanish? This is shown by the typical butterfly diagram. Even this phenomenon is well understood and explained by the magnetic flux tube model.
A rather famous picture of a typical solar mass ejection makes this phenomenon quite apparent. You can easily see the structure of the flux tube and the fact that the hot plasma is bound to the magnetic field lines.
The real universe is far more amazing then the whitewashing of smoke and mirrors. It need not be whizz bang boom: magic.
Sun spot intensity is periodic and that they migrate from the poles down to the equator and vanish? This is shown by the typical butterfly diagram. Even this phenomenon is well understood and explained by the magnetic flux tube model.
A rather famous picture of a typical solar mass ejection makes this phenomenon quite apparent. You can easily see the structure of the flux tube and the fact that the hot plasma is bound to the magnetic field lines.
The real universe is far more amazing then the whitewashing of smoke and mirrors. It need not be whizz bang boom: magic.
This is at our website about the formation of stars:
"Stars originate from a negative and a positive currents, which couple with each other forming a spiral nebula, that will grow and get bigger to become a star."
[ The pairedness (or coupling) of stars :]
http://universeandquran.741.com/new_page_3.htm#CouplingofStars
"The stars become suns when they obtain some meteorites and celestial rocks; because these rocks collect some of the substance of that star, so that star will start growing and increasing until it will become a sun."
Stars
http://universeandquran.741.com/new_page_3.htm#Stars
"The standstill of Venus from its axial rotation is a clear indication of the approach of the Doomsday; because the putting out of the Sun will start out at the time of the standstill of Venus from its axial rotation; that is because of what it obtains of the meteorites and celestial rocks belonging to Venus."Stars originate from a negative and a positive currents, which couple with each other forming a spiral nebula, that will grow and get bigger to become a star."
[ The pairedness (or coupling) of stars :]
http://universeandquran.741.com/new_page_3.htm#CouplingofStars
"The stars become suns when they obtain some meteorites and celestial rocks; because these rocks collect some of the substance of that star, so that star will start growing and increasing until it will become a sun."
Stars
http://universeandquran.741.com/new_page_3.htm#Stars
Following Venus, the turn will be for Earth to stop its axial rotation; due to the coldness of its core, then the meteorites and Moon will escape the gravitation of Earth, so that Sun will pull them by its gravitational force and swallow them.
After [Earth,] the turn will be for Mars to stop its axial rotation, so the Sun will pull its meteorites and moons, by its gravitational force, and swallow them.
The meteorites and celestial rocks belonging to these, just mentioned, three planets will be sufficient for putting out of the Sun and cooling of its surface, so that the Sun will become an earth with a cold crust. This process will be accomplished after elapsing of two thousand years, as we have explained; i.e. the Sun will burst after elapsing of two thousand years, and then its Doomsday will take place; this can be calculated from the time of the standstill of Venus from its axial rotation … to the day of the break up and disruption of the solar system."
See this subject, just before:
The earth approaches the sun
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The earth approaches the sun
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eanassir
Do you have any friends with at least a high school education? I ask because a high school education is all one would need to pull apart the nonsense you are posting. This leads me to believe that you are having us all on here and you know very well the stuff you are writing is garbage. Dexter probably has the best education in the sciences of any of us here and I admire his patience dealing with the junk you are throwing at us. I won't bother anymore.
Do you have any friends with at least a high school education? I ask because a high school education is all one would need to pull apart the nonsense you are posting. This leads me to believe that you are having us all on here and you know very well the stuff you are writing is garbage. Dexter probably has the best education in the sciences of any of us here and I admire his patience dealing with the junk you are throwing at us. I won't bother anymore.
When I went to some links that some members have cited and searched this link also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzsprung-Russell_diagram
I found they only said some "suggestion" and "might" and "speculations"; then how can some of them assert and say things for certain, specially when speaking in terms of billions of years concerning the creation and destruction of such tremendous objects as the sun and stars?
I found they only said some "suggestion" and "might" and "speculations"; then how can some of them assert and say things for certain, specially when speaking in terms of billions of years concerning the creation and destruction of such tremendous objects as the sun and stars?
"The [Hertzsprung-Russell] diagram's role in the development of stellar physics
Contemplation of the diagram led astronomers to speculate that it might demonstrate stellar evolution, a main suggestion being that stars collapsed from red giants to dwarf stars, then moving down along the line of the main sequence in the course of their lifetimes."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzsprung-Russell_diagram
Although I don't say some of such speculation may be wrong or correct.
Contemplation of the diagram led astronomers to speculate that it might demonstrate stellar evolution, a main suggestion being that stars collapsed from red giants to dwarf stars, then moving down along the line of the main sequence in the course of their lifetimes."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertzsprung-Russell_diagram
Although I don't say some of such speculation may be wrong or correct.
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What will cause this "magnetic flux tube to breach the surface of the sun and pull hot plasma with it"?
And will this "magnetic structure" disturbance occur in case some rocks may impact the sun or fall on the sun?
See the simple example that I said about throwing a stone in a water pool:
-Not only there will be rapidly spreading circular waves; if we take a photograph of the stone from above, immediately at the time of its impacting the water body, what will the view be:
- The sunken stone, in the middle, whether it be circular or irregular (usually irregular). And there will be other factors that will affect the resulting view: the viscosity of the fluid medium, the force of the impact, the direction of the falling of the impacting object.
- We shall see also, in the resulting view, the depression that the stone has made; which will mostly be about saucer-shaped with the stone in the middle, and the sloping edges of the water around the stone.
- The splash of water that rush out, during the impact of the stone.
- In addition to the turbulence that will result in the water body: with currents of water coming above and below and to the sides of the falling object.
- The resulting depression will be more than the size of the small stone that we have thrown.And will this "magnetic structure" disturbance occur in case some rocks may impact the sun or fall on the sun?
See the simple example that I said about throwing a stone in a water pool:
-Not only there will be rapidly spreading circular waves; if we take a photograph of the stone from above, immediately at the time of its impacting the water body, what will the view be:
- The sunken stone, in the middle, whether it be circular or irregular (usually irregular). And there will be other factors that will affect the resulting view: the viscosity of the fluid medium, the force of the impact, the direction of the falling of the impacting object.
- We shall see also, in the resulting view, the depression that the stone has made; which will mostly be about saucer-shaped with the stone in the middle, and the sloping edges of the water around the stone.
- The splash of water that rush out, during the impact of the stone.
- In addition to the turbulence that will result in the water body: with currents of water coming above and below and to the sides of the falling object.
And another example: if we throw a stone or rock into a volcano (even if it is inert or a little bit active), what will be the result?
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A few posts back I left a picture in which you can I think see the flux lines. What do you think about the electrical nature of the universe as a possible better explanation than that currently held in conventional circles?
Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age
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Michael Asher
there are some "interesting relationships we don't fully understand" between solar activity and climate.
The relationship between the solar activity and the climate cannot be denied, as it is known that the energy on earth is derived from the sun. Moreover, there are obvious changes, in this solar activity, that accompany the appearance of sunspots.
I love Medeival Science - if you throw a witch in a lake and she floats she's a witch, if she drowns she's not- I'm pretty sure I'm right about this. Maybe we can get Harley to volunteer?
Your reaction to the subject is like the reaction of the Medeival people; only the time is different.
Sunspots
http://universeandquran.741.com/new_page_4.htm#Sunspots
And you think yours isn't? You offer claims and arguments from the supposed authority of a 1400-year old religious text that are demonstrably false in the light of modern science, yet you cling to them as if your life depended on them, you simply discount all evidence and argument that shows how wrong you are, you twist and dance and misunderstand and misinterpret and invent various fictions, and apparently deliberately choose not to understand what anyone's tried to tell you in any of your science threads. You still haven't grasped even the elementary fact that the moon rotates on its axis.
You're not getting it, and you never will as long as you continue to believe the Quran contains accurate scientific information. It doesn't, in fact it contains no knowledge that wasn't widely known at the time it was written, and al-Hilly's interpretation of its science content you've translated and posted on your web site for the presumed benefit of us all is absolute nonsense. You've been told that here, and you've been told that everywhere on the WWW I can find where you've posted it, yet you persist in your delusion that the Quran and al-Hilly's interpretation of it are correct and 400 years of the scientific investigation of reality have produced nothing but errors. You're obviously not stupid, but you might as well be for all the difference it makes. Your religious faith is blinding you; your scientific understanding is stuck at about the level of the 14th century in the Western world.
Ok, the surface temperature of the sun is a blistering 6000K, and that is just the optical surface. Long before a "rock" even got near the sun it would vaporize.
Flux tubes breach the surface of the sun due to fluid and magnetic convection. There are also various instabilities which drive the field lines out of the surface. It is a highly dynamic situation. The butterfly diagram alone should be enough to convince you that these aren't caused by rocks, ignoring the fact that rocks would melt. One would need some highly specialized mechanism for launching rocks into the sun with such regularity that you can reproduce the period and the latitudinal migration.
I assume you are talking about the Lambda Cold Dark Matter model? Well, electromagnetic energy can be repulsive, especially in the case of magnetic fields. But the problem is that magnetic fields are easy to measure. So are electric fields. Thus we know it is something else, in fact we know that dark matter can not interact with the electomagnetic field, thus the dark descriptor.
No, actually he's talking about this stuff, which I'm about 99% sure is 99% nonsense. It starts out in the preface with grandiose claims about what a superior explanation of reality it offers. I stopped reading when it cited that old crank Immanuel Velikovsky's methods and findings with obvious approval.
The funny thing about the stereotypical crackpot is the statement they make like clockwork: underdog science the most important. If you don't understand me, its because I am a genius.
Anytime somebody wants to throw general relativity out the window, I like to point out a simple fact: without general relativistic corrections, the gps system would fail in seconds and airplanes on auto pilot would fall out of the sky.
Anytime somebody wants to throw general relativity out the window, I like to point out a simple fact: without general relativistic corrections, the gps system would fail in seconds and airplanes on auto pilot would fall out of the sky.
God is All-Knowing and Truthful; His words are true; God knows everything about all things that He created. God is Eternal and Everlasting: whether 1400 years, 2000 years or 5000 years or more; to Him it is like days only.
But one cannot found his belief or doctrine upon some suggestions, postulations and theories that are changeable and vulnerable to many corrections and abolitions.
Although the true science depending on research and study is a good tool to man and is very useful and should be adopted and applied.
Although the true science depending on research and study is a good tool to man and is very useful and should be adopted and applied.
The Glorious Quran, being the last heavenly revealed book, includes the:
· Pure monotheism: that God is One without any associate, peer or equal.
· Also it includes the correction of the distortion and alteration that took place in the previous heavenly revealed books; due to various factors.
· And many instructions; some of which were lost from the previous revealed books.
Some Books, Of The Hebrew Bible, Are Lost
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/#LostBooksofBible
· And many things that pertains to science and observations in the heavens and the earth, that such things are even not mentioned in the past heavenly scriptures or books.
· Moreover, the Glorious Quran is concise, and can be known by heart, as you know a poem by heart; and this has been an important factor against any alteration; because if you read an extra word, there will be many many men that will immediately correct the mistake for you; because the Quran is known by heart, not like the extensively large Torah which in fact consists of a large number of books of the prophets.
I may here mention this example of a very simple fact:
Everyone knows that clothes and dresses protect man from the heat of summer and the coldness of winter; this is known by all people; even to a child in the primary school.
· Pure monotheism: that God is One without any associate, peer or equal.
· Also it includes the correction of the distortion and alteration that took place in the previous heavenly revealed books; due to various factors.
· And many instructions; some of which were lost from the previous revealed books.
Some Books, Of The Hebrew Bible, Are Lost
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/#LostBooksofBible
· And many things that pertains to science and observations in the heavens and the earth, that such things are even not mentioned in the past heavenly scriptures or books.
· Moreover, the Glorious Quran is concise, and can be known by heart, as you know a poem by heart; and this has been an important factor against any alteration; because if you read an extra word, there will be many many men that will immediately correct the mistake for you; because the Quran is known by heart, not like the extensively large Torah which in fact consists of a large number of books of the prophets.
I may here mention this example of a very simple fact:
Everyone knows that clothes and dresses protect man from the heat of summer and the coldness of winter; this is known by all people; even to a child in the primary school.
If Mohammed had invented the Quran – as do they claim – then he would have said: "The clothes or dresses protect against the heat and coldness."
But in the Quran 16: 81
وَجَعَلَ لَكُمْ سَرَابِيلَ تَقِيكُمُ الْحَرَّ وَسَرَابِيلَ تَقِيكُم بَأْسَكُمْ
The explanation: ([God] has made for you garments to protect you from heat, and coats [of mail] to protect you from your violence.)
"That which will protect them from their violence [at fighting]" are the shields and armors to protect them from swords, arrows and even they have now some jackets they wear to protect them against bullets and shells.
While the "garments" or clothes or dresses will protect them against the heat of summer time; because the heat is something external to the body, and the clothes will be an insulation against this external heat; but God did not say these clothes will protect them against the coldness; because in this case the coldness is not a positive thing – like the arrows and bullets, and like the external heat – to be averted from them, but the clothes will only keep the internal heat of the body or keep them warm.
This simple thing – which does not include equations and calculations – will give the idea about the truthfulness of Mohammed and the authenticity of the Glorious Quran.
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