The deceit of NASA and the US government

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When did I promote winters are a thing of the past. You and Dex should go and console each other as the best fake scientists money and the collective can produce. Come back after you post the chute opening question. (meaning never in your fukked up world)
 

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When you can explain this graph, come back and talk shop. Until then go blow another dead billy goat.

 

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Pressure, temp, depth gives the density. 30km doesn't even get through the Continental Crust. The earth was spinning for 3B years as a ball of liquid rock, The size and speed allowed it to arrange itself according to density.

Wish all you want, mud off the floor of the ocean is not going to mix with magma that is 2x the density of solid granite let alone be pulled by gravity to the core itself. You and Dex have the very same mistakes, lol. Too funny for words really, hahaha




 
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They are characteristically composed of ancient crystalline basement rock, which may be covered by younger sedimentary rock. They have a thick crust and deep lithospheric roots that extend as much as several hundred kilometres into the Earth's mantle.



You cannot stick a light material into molten material that hotter and not have it melt. You cannot have the sun create a lake on the top of a glacier in Greenland and have it drill a hole through solid ice that is a lot colder than 0C. A mile or so of ice will not bend continental crust, being above a descending plume will cause the crust to dip though.

It is seafloor rock that is being pushed under the continental plates. If the rifts are all expanding about the same speed as fingernails grow then the speed is 1/2 of that so the magma has lots of time to melt the oceanic crust that isn't scraped off they the crust


The sea floor around Hawaii dips into the -6000 range and comes back up and that cannot happen when you are sitting above a rising plume, period.
 

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The ring of fire expands, the subduction is under Hawaii and the surrounding continents, such as BC


https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ring-fire/
Divergent Boundaries
A divergent boundary is formed by tectonic plates pulling apart from each other. Divergent boundaries are the site of seafloor spreading and rift valleys. Seafloor spreading is the process of magma welling up in the rift as the old crust pulls itself in opposite directions. Cold seawater cools the magma, creating new crust. The upward movement and eventual cooling of this magma has created high ridges on the ocean floor over millions of years.

The East Pacific Rise is a site of major seafloor spreading in the Ring of Fire. The East Pacific Rise is located on the divergent boundary of the Pacific Plate and the Cocos Plate (west of Central America), the Nazca Plate (west of South America), and the Antarctic Plate. The largest known group of volcanoes on Earth is found underwater along the portion of the East Pacific Rise between the coasts of northern Chile and southern Peru.



 

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Rifts are where plumes of heat escape from the core. The volcano in Hawaii sits above a descending plume that is the center of the 'ring of fire' which is where the magma flow starts to flow along the bottom of the crust. It releases heat for that whole journey.
There is only 1 Hawaiian volcano? Rifts are were heat escapes from the mantle not the core and it's bupkis. Rifts drive drift and force subduction. If Rifts were related to climate, dramatic volcanism and earthquakes would be nonstop. Drift would be meters per year not mm.
 

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The ring of fire expands, the subduction is under Hawaii and the surrounding continents, such as BC
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/ring-fire/
Divergent Boundaries
A divergent boundary is formed by tectonic plates pulling apart from each other. Divergent boundaries are the site of seafloor spreading and rift valleys. Seafloor spreading is the process of magma welling up in the rift as the old crust pulls itself in opposite directions. Cold seawater cools the magma, creating new crust. The upward movement and eventual cooling of this magma has created high ridges on the ocean floor over millions of years.
The East Pacific Rise is a site of major seafloor spreading in the Ring of Fire. The East Pacific Rise is located on the divergent boundary of the Pacific Plate and the Cocos Plate (west of Central America), the Nazca Plate (west of South America), and the Antarctic Plate. The largest known group of volcanoes on Earth is found underwater along the portion of the East Pacific Rise between the coasts of northern Chile and southern Peru.
You just said Hawaiian volcanoes were from a plume. That's not subduction. And the Cascades are a completely different type of volcano with completely different composition of discharge.

Look up the gasses involved between the two types and learn.
 

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If you are baffled by how the earth gained mass look to the atmosphere.



Do you see that Mountain? I betcha I can throw a football over it.

That massive Mountain and the ones just west of you are limestone.

Once upon a time the CO2 that makes up the bulk of the chemistry of that mountain was in the atmosphere.
 
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You just said Hawaiian volcanoes were from a plume. That's not subduction. And the Cascades are a completely different type of volcano with completely different composition of discharge.

Look up the gasses involved between the two types and learn.
If you can't follow what was written how can you have any worthwhile knowledge in your brain.
'The sea floor around Hawaii dips into the -6000 range and comes back up and that cannot happen when you are sitting above a rising plume, period.'
The volcano in Hawaii sits above a descending plume that is the center of the 'ring of fire'



What I am saying is there is a 'bit of pressure' where all the outflows from the ring of fire meet and that is a very small area compared to the whole descending magma. The 'bull's-eye' compared to the whole dart board. Use G-earth and you can see how far out the dip goes. The chain it belongs to can be traced back to Alaska so the age of how old they are.
 

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You just said Hawaiian volcanoes were from a plume. That's not subduction. And the Cascades are a completely different type of volcano with completely different composition of discharge.

Look up the gasses involved between the two types and learn.
Now that what I said is clear the part about why they are different can be explained. The Pacific Rift off the coast of BC started out breaking the crust at the AB/BC border. BC was created by the softest layers being scraped of the material that was being pushed to the east under the Canadian Shield. It does not start descending until it meets the magma flowing westward from the Atlantic Rift.
Coal is 'organic mud' that is trapped and goes under the Shield and heat cooks it and that produces a lot more gas than magma that id above a descending plume. (the crust bends rather than being subducted at Hawaii as well in the line from Hudson Bay to the Gulf of Mexico) The rest of the globe will be the same. Watch the lava lake vids to see how the early crust would have been formed, some remained and a lot was 'recycled', just like in a lava lake. Coal in the east is from the Atlantic Rift so where that is found should be about the same distance from a subduction zone. The UK is being pulled into deeper water so her coal is going around for another 'cycle', pity.
 

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There is only 1 Hawaiian volcano?
Yeah, one volcano per island. If it has 100 outlets that is still the same volcano.

Rifts are were heat escapes from the mantle not the core and it's bupkis.
The mantle does not create it's own heat, it gets it from deeper and send it to the coldness of space eventually.

Rifts drive drift and force subduction.
The rates do not have to match each other, nor does it mean the suducted rock goes down into the denser material rather than being pushed along the bottom of the crust. 2,000 miles later the molten material descends down to the core or a dividing line and then heated from the layer below that is transferred rather than matter is exchanged

If Rifts were related to climate, dramatic volcanism and earthquakes would be nonstop.
Both of them are non-stop. The rifts have a max/min speed but you would need a pretty detailed map ir some other signs. The floods from glacial melt is well documented in the west of NA so there is your missing timeline

Drift would be meters per year not mm.
For a long time most of the flow from the Pacific Rift was going only to the west because there was too much resistance from the Shield for much to go to the east. East of Japan it stall and the rift there is only opening up to the west of the crack, Japan should be rising in height as well as anyplace else in a similar position. AB/BC border 200M ago was the same situation.
You can estimate the spread rate for the whole ocean over 200M years, getting the 100 year might be found in the rate the ice dams were created and then broke. There is a whole series on that area so the dates are available.
 

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NO! ABSOLUTELY F-CKING NO.

What f-ck is wrong with you?

Gravity=pressure=friction=heat.

What do you not grasp about that?
 
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MHZ you have the idea that those time frames you quote are somewhat accurate, they are estimations based on outrageous guesses and nothing closer, all of them are based on supporting the lunatic universalism and uniformity to the dictated past that simply did not exist.
The present solar system was observed adjusting into the present configuration and the insuing solar system wide conflagration recorded in historical works. Mankind remembers the last purple dawn in the beginning of our binary system.