The best wisdom in this life
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This is where Islam diverges from the other Abrahamic religions. It's okay to kill if you think that Allah has whispered in your ear that it's okay.
I find in the interpretation that the wisdom is the admonition, so more admonition is in the Quran 17: 22-39, which mean:
{>> [O man] set not up with God another god, or you will [in the Next Life] stay condemned [among souls] and forsaken [by devils.]
>> [O Mohammed] your Lord decrees, that you [people] must worship none save Him [alone],
>> and [He decrees too that you must show] kindness to parents:
As long as one or both of them live with you [in your house], you should never say to them [even] "Fie", nor shall you shout at them; but always address them with kindly speech.
And humble yourself before them with submission, out of mercy to them [both],
and say: "My Lord, bestow on them Your mercy, even as did they raise me up when I was little."
Your Lord knows best what [you hide] within yourselves; if you are righteous, then [surely] He is Ever Forgiving for those who always revert.
>> And render to the [poor among] kindred their due rights,
as [also] to the needy,
and to the wayfarer; but squander not [your wealth] in the manner of a spendthrift [in the ground.]
Surely, spendthrifts are brothers of devils, and the Devil was ungrateful to his Lord.
>> And if you turn away from them, seeking after the mercy that you hope of your Lord, then speak to them some reasonable words.
>> And let not your hand be bound to your neck [like the stingy] nor open it so widely [like the spendthrift], lest you come to be blamed and denuded [of the clothes.]
Your Lord [O Mohammed] gives abundant provision to those among His servants whom He will, or He doles it out.
Surely, He is All-Aware and All-Seeing about His servants.
>> And slay not your children for fear of poverty. It is We Who provide for them and for you.
Surely, the slaying of them is a grievous sin.
>> And approach not [women to commit] adultery; surely it is ever an indecency, and evil as a way.
>> And kill not the soul which God has forbidden save by a right [cause].
Whoso is slain wrongfully [and undeservedly], We have given power to his heir [on the murderer by means of retaliation], but let the [heir] not commit excess in slaying; surely, he will be helped to overcome [his opponent, so let him not hasten and then he may kill one who is not the murderer.]
>> Approach not the wealth of the orphan, save in that which is best, till he reaches puberty.
>> And fulfill the covenant [if you make any covenant]; surely the covenant is ever inquired of [the man who agrees to it.]
>> Give full measure when you measure out [to people], and weigh [when you weigh to them] with the standard weight; that [full measure and just weighing without reduction] is better [for you before people] and fairer in practice.
>> And do not go after the [flaws of your Muslim brother] about which you [man] have no knowledge; for the hearing, the sight and the [spiritual] heart, of all these it shall be inquired.
>> And walk not upon the earth exultantly; certainly you [man] will never tear the earth open, nor attain the mountains in height.
All this [which We forbid you to do] is ever evil and abhorred in the sight of your Lord.
That is [some] of the wisdom your Lord has revealed to you [O Mohammed];
>> set not up another god with God, or you will be cast into Hell, dispraised and driven away [by the angels.]}
So these are 14 points of wisdom, and anyone applying them being a believer in God alone without associate and in Mohammed the messenger of God, he will be admitted to Paradise in heaven in the Next Life.
The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm#The_Admonition_in_the_Quran
{>> [O man] set not up with God another god, or you will [in the Next Life] stay condemned [among souls] and forsaken [by devils.]
>> [O Mohammed] your Lord decrees, that you [people] must worship none save Him [alone],
>> and [He decrees too that you must show] kindness to parents:
As long as one or both of them live with you [in your house], you should never say to them [even] "Fie", nor shall you shout at them; but always address them with kindly speech.
And humble yourself before them with submission, out of mercy to them [both],
and say: "My Lord, bestow on them Your mercy, even as did they raise me up when I was little."
Your Lord knows best what [you hide] within yourselves; if you are righteous, then [surely] He is Ever Forgiving for those who always revert.
>> And render to the [poor among] kindred their due rights,
as [also] to the needy,
and to the wayfarer; but squander not [your wealth] in the manner of a spendthrift [in the ground.]
Surely, spendthrifts are brothers of devils, and the Devil was ungrateful to his Lord.
>> And if you turn away from them, seeking after the mercy that you hope of your Lord, then speak to them some reasonable words.
>> And let not your hand be bound to your neck [like the stingy] nor open it so widely [like the spendthrift], lest you come to be blamed and denuded [of the clothes.]
Your Lord [O Mohammed] gives abundant provision to those among His servants whom He will, or He doles it out.
Surely, He is All-Aware and All-Seeing about His servants.
>> And slay not your children for fear of poverty. It is We Who provide for them and for you.
Surely, the slaying of them is a grievous sin.
>> And approach not [women to commit] adultery; surely it is ever an indecency, and evil as a way.
>> And kill not the soul which God has forbidden save by a right [cause].
Whoso is slain wrongfully [and undeservedly], We have given power to his heir [on the murderer by means of retaliation], but let the [heir] not commit excess in slaying; surely, he will be helped to overcome [his opponent, so let him not hasten and then he may kill one who is not the murderer.]
>> Approach not the wealth of the orphan, save in that which is best, till he reaches puberty.
>> And fulfill the covenant [if you make any covenant]; surely the covenant is ever inquired of [the man who agrees to it.]
>> Give full measure when you measure out [to people], and weigh [when you weigh to them] with the standard weight; that [full measure and just weighing without reduction] is better [for you before people] and fairer in practice.
>> And do not go after the [flaws of your Muslim brother] about which you [man] have no knowledge; for the hearing, the sight and the [spiritual] heart, of all these it shall be inquired.
>> And walk not upon the earth exultantly; certainly you [man] will never tear the earth open, nor attain the mountains in height.
All this [which We forbid you to do] is ever evil and abhorred in the sight of your Lord.
That is [some] of the wisdom your Lord has revealed to you [O Mohammed];
>> set not up another god with God, or you will be cast into Hell, dispraised and driven away [by the angels.]}
So these are 14 points of wisdom, and anyone applying them being a believer in God alone without associate and in Mohammed the messenger of God, he will be admitted to Paradise in heaven in the Next Life.
The Conflict between the Torah and the Quran
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/index.htm#The_Admonition_in_the_Quran
Your war god that instructs you to kill the infidels does not exist Selfsap. He's a character on paper created from the imaginations of the ignorant.
Just watching a joker on the news right now, Don Meredith; a 52 year old man on the Canadian payroll, who groomed a young girl for his sick sexual perversion. Any old man amusing himself with a 13 year old (claims she was 16 when he slept with her) should not be representing anybody in Canada, period. Get this pi#g out of our house of common now. He says that if he was white, and abusing children, it would be okay!! So, on the topic of wisdom Selfsame, imagine what the world thinks of a 80 years old man with a 9 year old child?? Put the chances of acceptance on the table, and you can figure out the answer. Your post are based on the repudiation of what is acceptable, past, present and future human behaviour.
Why do we keep appointing these trashy bagmen to our "Upper House"? Are the pickings really so bad or is that the nominal quality of a Liberal or Conservative party operative?
What a load of dingle berry doo. The world is not a mess it depends on how you
view the world.I see science with breakthrough's and visions of the worlds beyond
us and people helping people. I also see religious people of different faiths in a
race to dominate the other wise pretty good world around us. Do you see the folks
in the school's PTA planning and bombing those they hate? Does the local Lions
Club plant bombs in pressure cookers? Who does that? Those peaceful religious
people who complain the world is a terrible place. It is at times like this my Eire
rises. Self righteous zealots who tell everyone else how to live. Jesus and Buddha
and most of the others didn't complain and suggest those who don't believe as they
believe should be killed. Now many who follow these leaders suggest that but the
only religious zealot leader who did suggest murder was the way to peace and happiness
was---well we know all about him don't we? If you're bitching about the world being
terrible, you are part of the problem and its not up to God to fix it its up to us assuming
there is a problem Some people find a problem for every solution
view the world.I see science with breakthrough's and visions of the worlds beyond
us and people helping people. I also see religious people of different faiths in a
race to dominate the other wise pretty good world around us. Do you see the folks
in the school's PTA planning and bombing those they hate? Does the local Lions
Club plant bombs in pressure cookers? Who does that? Those peaceful religious
people who complain the world is a terrible place. It is at times like this my Eire
rises. Self righteous zealots who tell everyone else how to live. Jesus and Buddha
and most of the others didn't complain and suggest those who don't believe as they
believe should be killed. Now many who follow these leaders suggest that but the
only religious zealot leader who did suggest murder was the way to peace and happiness
was---well we know all about him don't we? If you're bitching about the world being
terrible, you are part of the problem and its not up to God to fix it its up to us assuming
there is a problem Some people find a problem for every solution
Right on Grumpy! 95% of the people in this country have all the essentials of a comfortable life and many of the rest have access to them.
Yes, and people like Nassir wish to come North America and ruin this place as well. If you have spent any time in the ME, you will see how much death and destruction there is. Few things remain untouched for long. Hatred runs strong and deep, not only between Muslims and Jews, but between Bedouins, local, ME born Christians and others. Then there is the atheist element.
Muslims, by their sheer numbers, are the cause of most of the destruction. They have soiled their own nest, and now wish to come here. Regardless, they spread hate, death and destruction wherever it is they go. We only need to look at Europe.
Nassir thinks that the world is stupid. He thinks that by denying all the death and destruction, that we will believe him. He thinks that by reciting quotes from his story book somehow makes him right. He does not even understand many of the quotes he posts.
Nassir and others are terrified of this - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
It sheds light on the evil that Muslims do daily. The Internet is a powerful tool to expose their lies. Nassir will say that those news companies are the liars. He will try and deflect or change the subject, claiming that Christians and Jews do more harm than Muslims. The evidence just doesn't bear that out. Every other religion has evolved, except Islam. They continue to live in the 10th century.
I now direct your attention to the next silly ayat, posted by a man who does not understand that no one believes him.
Muslims, by their sheer numbers, are the cause of most of the destruction. They have soiled their own nest, and now wish to come here. Regardless, they spread hate, death and destruction wherever it is they go. We only need to look at Europe.
Nassir thinks that the world is stupid. He thinks that by denying all the death and destruction, that we will believe him. He thinks that by reciting quotes from his story book somehow makes him right. He does not even understand many of the quotes he posts.
Nassir and others are terrified of this - http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
It sheds light on the evil that Muslims do daily. The Internet is a powerful tool to expose their lies. Nassir will say that those news companies are the liars. He will try and deflect or change the subject, claiming that Christians and Jews do more harm than Muslims. The evidence just doesn't bear that out. Every other religion has evolved, except Islam. They continue to live in the 10th century.
I now direct your attention to the next silly ayat, posted by a man who does not understand that no one believes him.
