The American Dream Does Not Include Vacations
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Indeed... Australia has a lot more going for the employee when it comes to vacation time, sick days, etc.
Hell, here in Victoria everybody has a day off to watch horse racing..... not that I could be bothered to, but having the day off is nice.
We have stress leave here,funny it's not used more as there's no questions asked and you can golf all summer if that's what takes away your stress.
I think it's Canada wide,EI pays half and the employer pays the other half up to a certain % of your wages.
Surprised not more peeps have been going for this one,paid vacation for 2 years.
I think it's Canada wide,EI pays half and the employer pays the other half up to a certain % of your wages.
Surprised not more peeps have been going for this one,paid vacation for 2 years.
Indeed... Australia has a lot more going for the employee when it comes to vacation time, sick days, etc.
Hell, here in Victoria everybody has a day off to watch horse racing..... not that I could be bothered to, but having the day off is nice.
Ah yes. The Melbourne Cup. All of Oz comes to a standstill for five minutes. As for vacation time, I always thought Australia had a much more civilized attitude toward allowing employees time off.
Holy cow... You just bend over backwards to find any reason to piss and moan about life don't you?
I really don't know what to say other than I guess that you have some difficult decision ahead of you.
BTW - I like the Costa Rica reference. Take a look at the country stats and you'll notice that the avg wage is about 1/7 of that of the US and the cost of public healthcare via premiums is $30-50 per month or roughly 1/15 of wages.... Pretty enticing lifestyle, ain't it?
Which brings up another question which one wouldn't ask in public for fear of being killed. (Also I've enjoyed more than my share of paid vacations) But to get back to basics, should one really be paid anything for not working? Where does the money for that pay come from? When one person gets a freeby, obviously another person is being screwed. Ya can't suck and blow at the same time!
In Canada, generally speaking, you start off with 2 weeks paid vacation a year and then after 5 it goes to 3 and after 10 it goes to 4 - something like that. There may be exceptions. If you job jump, then it's unlikely you'll ever get past the 2 week mark. Unfortunately, Europe is in financial trouble because it's so generous with their "vacation" times as well as other benefits. So are the Greeks et al. It's all well and good to have so much time off but then what happens to productivity?
I dunno, I'm thinking there needs to be something that's a bit of both so that it's fair to both employees and employers and it doesn't affect the bottom line too much. I know if my employer were to grant more generous leave, he'd have to cut back on employees leaving whomever was left that much more work to do. He'd need to do it simply to make a go of things.
I use all my vacation time throughout the year simply to rejuvinate myself. Sometimes we go someplace, and others we stick close to home. It's just the "getting away" part that I need.
JMO
I dunno, I'm thinking there needs to be something that's a bit of both so that it's fair to both employees and employers and it doesn't affect the bottom line too much. I know if my employer were to grant more generous leave, he'd have to cut back on employees leaving whomever was left that much more work to do. He'd need to do it simply to make a go of things.
I use all my vacation time throughout the year simply to rejuvinate myself. Sometimes we go someplace, and others we stick close to home. It's just the "getting away" part that I need.
JMO
Wage level means nothing. Cost of living needs to be factored in with wages. When I left Montreal in 72, I was making $2 hr as a drafting supervisor. When I got to BC, I was making $4.75 hr sweeping floors in a plywood mill. I had more buying power in Montreal.
I completely agree and by in large, comparing the practices between nations, while an interesting comparison, is automatically apples and oranges.
I find vacations stressful. Laying around doing nothing drives me nuts when I think of all the projects that are not being done.
That's some vacation, eh?
Makes you wonder if you'd be better-off spending that vacation pay on a contractor and remaining at work.... It'd be a lot more relaxing
Not so much the at work projects, rather the ones at home which would be a much better use of both time and money. Most of them are things I like doing anyway.
A few? Welfare fraud in Massachusetts is in the tens of millions. But the people who live free and full lives, vacationing in Hawaii basically say...
"Hey... I didn't create the system... this is all legal."
They're right. The Governor said on the radio that "If a woman needs a to get a manicure before a job interview they should be able to use the EBT card."
Yeah right Gov. The thousands of dollars spent at beauty salons and spas last year were all people trying to get off welfare.
Our poor live better than the wealthy and middle class of most countries. They get free everything. Even trips to the beauty salons and tattoos.
Do I have to hold your hand in order to get you to understand basic English? The whole point of the Costa Rica reference was that it is a developing country. The fact that it actually grants its workers longer vacations than the supposedly more developed USA is the entire point of the comparison., but once again you missed the point. Yes, Costa Rica has a much lower standard of living than the US, but still treats its workers better in one basic quality of life category. Thanks very much for helping me prove it though.
That's why Costa Rica has the illegal immigrant problem; all those millions of wet-backs clambering to get into the country. You're daft.
It's not your English that's the problem, it's your heavily faulted logic that confounds the issues so greatly.
I suppose that the Costa Rican gvt could also offer free oil changes to everyone that owns a Ferrari too, although it won't do any good to the average person.
Too funny... I wonder how many 'average' Costa Ricans (in this developing nation and all) can actually afford to take the time off and travel or do nothing as opposed to use the time to augment their income elsewhere.
So, the measure of success is that places like Canada and the US have more people who have more money to piss away on frivolities? But Costa Ricans turn up to vote with close to a 100% turn out. Perhaps they have more interest and confidence in their democracy than Canada or the US.
Quality of life does not depend on the size of your disposable income. That sort of reasoning smacks of a dick measuring contest.
You can't legislate happiness and bliss Cliffy, regardless of voter turn-out
But it sure helps
Seems to me that you are among a handful of individuals that are overly focused on that issue...
But it sure helps
Seems to me that you are among a handful of individuals that are overly focused on that issue...