I had a 74 Plymouth Fury with a 400 c.i. Complete tank that purred at about 110.
Teen caught at 181km/hr..
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Huh....You had the '74 Fury....I had a '78 Fury. Nicely balance vehicle, for
a tank. Almost a perfect 50/50 front to back ratio. They where fun.
This (below) is the car I'm describing above, same color, but mine had
the T-Tops. Rare Dodge Iron. Only made them for two years, & the big
motors only came in the '78's. By '79 it was the 318cu.in. or smaller...
That's a beauty Ron.Huh....You had the '74 Fury....I had a '78 Fury. Nicely balance vehicle, for
a tank. Almost a perfect 50/50 front to back ratio. They where fun.
This (below) is the car I'm describing above, same color, but mine had
the T-Tops. Rare Dodge Iron. Only made them for two years, & the big
motors only came in the '78's. By '79 it was the 318cu.in. or smaller...
Mine was a 4 door. Any bigger and it would need stablizers and a fog horn.
I hear 'ya. My Fury, being the '78 was exactly like the one below, but in dark blue.
It was my Fathers before he died, then mine. Was bought at an auction. ex-RCMP
Cruiser. Had silicone dabs with screws through them on the roof (to keep it from
leaking) where the top lights & siren used to be.
I was young, & it was too much car for me at the time. I spun that thing down a road
doing 360's (no idea how many) at about 60mph after a rain storm before I went
backwards into a ditch and got hung up on a concrete projecting manhole, which
kept me from wiping out a power transformer. Whoops.
Just a 318cu.in. in that Fury, but had that huge Law Enforcement Issue Carter
Thermoquad (something like 850cmf or so...sized like a dinnerplate and about
four inches thick...primaries bigger than toonies, and secondaries just a bit
smaller than soup can lids) making it really squirrelly. Too much so for a young
guy who thought he was a better driver than he was at the time.
It was my Fathers before he died, then mine. Was bought at an auction. ex-RCMP
Cruiser. Had silicone dabs with screws through them on the roof (to keep it from
leaking) where the top lights & siren used to be.
I was young, & it was too much car for me at the time. I spun that thing down a road
doing 360's (no idea how many) at about 60mph after a rain storm before I went
backwards into a ditch and got hung up on a concrete projecting manhole, which
kept me from wiping out a power transformer. Whoops.
Just a 318cu.in. in that Fury, but had that huge Law Enforcement Issue Carter
Thermoquad (something like 850cmf or so...sized like a dinnerplate and about
four inches thick...primaries bigger than toonies, and secondaries just a bit
smaller than soup can lids) making it really squirrelly. Too much so for a young
guy who thought he was a better driver than he was at the time.
I'll take you for a ride in my 69 Mustang someday. The tiny little 351 was tossed a side and a 429CJ shoehorned in. Close to 600HP. The 4 speed toploader limits it from reaching it's full potential. That will be pulled this spring and a T5 from Ford racing will take it's place.
I like driving through parkades, it sets off all the car alarms.
Dodges may have been a half tonne heavier than others but the weight shift was incredible especially the B bodies.
I never knew you were a gear head Ron.
Sorry guys I call bull$hit.
The top speed of a Dodge magnum xe is around 110 mph.
Those old cheap as chips 340 Dusters and Swingers: 115 mph.
My buddies gorgeous flame red 68 Mustang GT 390, around 115 mph.
My old 73 Buick with a 455 Rocket S, around 113 mph.
My old school chums Chevelle SS 396, 117 mph.
Published numbers.
On top of that the suspension, the tires and the brakes were all crap on those old rides.
A new Mazda 3 will smoke most of those old muscle cars on the race track( course not 1/4 mile).
As to the bikes I don't deny that the newer ones are pretty quick however I just flat don't believe all the 150 mph plus stories I hear.
The Suzuki Hayabusa, the Honda Blackbird and the Ninja ZX12R are all 170MPH plus machines but I just don't believe that the many motorcyclists have wrung one of those bombs out.
I have a 1200ZRX-R sitting in my garage.
Its got a stage two jetting job on it and it is rated at 147mph right out of the crate.
It also has factory stock mediocre front shocks, a twitchy ass end when pushed and so so rubber.
Frankly I dont think my bike is properly designed to run much over 130 mph ( and that would be on a track).
As to the original post, if that Dodge Neon was an SRT4 it is one of the fastest cars Dodge has ever built.
Trex
The top speed of a Dodge magnum xe is around 110 mph.
Those old cheap as chips 340 Dusters and Swingers: 115 mph.
My buddies gorgeous flame red 68 Mustang GT 390, around 115 mph.
My old 73 Buick with a 455 Rocket S, around 113 mph.
My old school chums Chevelle SS 396, 117 mph.
Published numbers.
On top of that the suspension, the tires and the brakes were all crap on those old rides.
A new Mazda 3 will smoke most of those old muscle cars on the race track( course not 1/4 mile).
As to the bikes I don't deny that the newer ones are pretty quick however I just flat don't believe all the 150 mph plus stories I hear.
The Suzuki Hayabusa, the Honda Blackbird and the Ninja ZX12R are all 170MPH plus machines but I just don't believe that the many motorcyclists have wrung one of those bombs out.
I have a 1200ZRX-R sitting in my garage.
Its got a stage two jetting job on it and it is rated at 147mph right out of the crate.
It also has factory stock mediocre front shocks, a twitchy ass end when pushed and so so rubber.
Frankly I dont think my bike is properly designed to run much over 130 mph ( and that would be on a track).
As to the original post, if that Dodge Neon was an SRT4 it is one of the fastest cars Dodge has ever built.
Trex
You don't have to look like a dog humping a football to enjoy speed....Yamaha VMX1200...
Specifications
Top speed 160mph
1/4-mile acceleration 10.9 secs
Power140bhp
Torque117.7ftlb
Weight262kg
Seat height765mm
Fuel capacity15 litres
Average fuel consumption35mpg
Tank range 100 miles
amazing the disparities in published data.
I found several references on 1990 VMX's rated at 100hp.
one reference to a 1997 at 140 hp.
and multiple 2000 and on up references quoting 100hp.
Yamaha V-Max 1200 20th Anniversary Limited Edition
Year
2005
Engine
Liquid cooled, four stroke, 70° V-four, DOHC, 4 valve per cylinder.
Capacity
1198
Bore x Stroke 76 х 66 mm
Compression Ratio 10.5:1
Induction
4x 35mm Mikuni CV
Ignition / Starting
CDI / electric
Max Power
102 hp 74.4 kW @ 8000 rpm (rear tyre 97.88 @ 7700 rpm)
Max Torque
101 Nm @ 6000 rpm
Transmission / Drive
5 Speed / shaft
Front Suspension
38mm forks non adjustable
Rear Suspension
Twin shock preload adjustable
Front Brakes
2x 290mm discs 4 piston calipers
Rear Brakes
Single 250mm disc 2 piston caliper
Front Tyre
110/90 -18
Rear Tyre
150/90 -17
Dry-Weight
262 kg
Fuel Capacity
15 Litres
Consumption average
13.2 m / 39.0m
Standing ¼ Mile
11.7 sec / 185.8 km/h
Top Speed
216.7 km/h
Manuals
Looks like it only does around 135 mph to me.
And thats a far cry from your claim that you were soon going to be driving at 170MPH.
But lets not quibble.
Winding a bike out to its absolute top speed is foolish in my view.
You are pushing it to the absolute limit of its engineering and performance envelopes.
Any kind of mechanical failure and the driver will probably be converted into a long red smear down the road.
Are you a racer?
Qualified to run on the track and fully experienced?
If so then I suppose you would be comfortable with a particular machines limitations.
I freely admit that I would not be comfortable trying to sustain the top speeds achievable by my bike.
And even on a track I wouldn't try and do it.
Even in full leathers getting hit in the chest by a bumble bee while traveling at 170 mph is going to feel like a crisp jab from Mike Tyson.
And I also freely admit that I have never raced motorcycles (except at the outlaws) and am not qualified to race bikes on the track.
I am however trained to race cars on the track and I have been certified to do so.
And yes I have raced.
But these days my reaction times are getting slower and slower.
I honestly doubt that I will ever run on a track again.
And there is no chance I will ever try and wind out a performance bike in a public place.
Trex
Sorry, but I have to call bull$hit on your bull$hit. You might have
found spec's on the 360 2-barrel lean-burn or something, but
I've driven it with the 400 4-barrel out here on the Prairies
back when I was young & stupid. No hills. No curves.
Thank God....in hindsite.
Look up the 86
Between Regina and Moose Jaw there are two turns in 65KM on a pancake flat terrain. Anytime you want to go balls to the wall give a shout and I'll gas up.
Sorry Ron but your wrong.
Everyone loves those old cars.
And we all grew up "knowing someone that owned" or "we used to own" a car that went 150 mph or a bike that went 170 mph.
And while its great fun to chew rags over a few brews 9/10 of the time it is all utter BS.
Every once in a while there is a true tale thrown in to spice up the brew but like I said in my first post in the end it gets old.
I didn't name names because for all I know you took your particular Dodge down to Bonnyville on a trailer.
Yanked the smog.
Balanced and blueprinted it.
Gutted the interior.
Smacked a mega tall gear set in it.
Threw a N0x and water injection system in it.
And with a stiff tailwind out on the flats who knows?
But your cars specs are easy to find.
Stock it is:
170 to 190hp.
20 odd sec's in the 1/4.
Top speed between 113 and 117 mph.
And thats the facts.
And I can cut n paste up here all day long ( right from Mopar).
I dont buy that a Dodge Magnum is any faster than:
A Mustang GT 390.
My old Buick with a 455 S mill.
My school chums SS 396 Chev.
Or my other buddies 390 Cyclone GT with a fibreglass front end.
All these cars ran under 120 mph stock Ron.
They just did.
Look it up for yourself.
Trex
Ron some specs:
978 DODGE MAGNUM XE 400-4 V-8 TorqueFlite version for North America USA, 2-door coupe, RWD (rear-wheel drive) with aut 3-speed gearbox. Condensed specs: engine displacement: 6551 cm3 / 399.8 cui; power: 141.5 kW / 190 hp / 192 PS / 3600 ; torque: 414 Nm / 305 lb-ft / 3200 ; Dimensions: length 5481 mm / 215.8 in, wheelbase 2918 mm / 114.9 in; Performance: top speed 192 km/h (119 mph) (sim.); accelerations 0- 60 mph 14.2 s (sim.); 0- 100 km/h 14.9 s (sim.); 0- 1/4 mile 20.2 s (sim.); Fuel consumption: official: , a-c pred. average: 25.3 l/100km / 11.2 mpg (imp.) / 9.3 mpg (U.S.) / 4 km/l
another quote:
979 Dodge Magnum XE performance
0-50 mph (80 km/h)
0-60 mph
0-100 km/h
0-100 mph
80-120 km/h (50-70 mph) in top
Standing ¼mile
Standing km
Top speed 165 km/h (103 mph)
Fuel consumption
CO2 Emissions
Carfolio Calculated CO2 ?
Power-to-weight 81.18 bhp/ton
1979 Dodge Magnum XE chassis
Engine location Front
Engine alignment Longitudinal
Drive Rear wheel drive
Steering recirculating ball PAS
Turns lock-to-lock 3.500
Turning circle 13.70 m
Suspension front I.W.LongTB.ARB.
rear LA.SE.ARB.
Key: IIndependent LALive axle dDde Dion axle WWishbone DWDouble wishbones CSCoil springs ARBAnti-roll bar LSLeaf springs SESemi-elliptic leaf springs See more...
Wheels front
rear
Tyres front
rear
Brakes F/R VeDi/Dr-S
Key: VeVentilated DiDisc (Disk) DrDrum SServo-assisted ABSAnti-lock Braking System
Brake ∅ front
rear
Braked area
Transmission 3 speed automatic
Top gear ratio 1.00
Final drive ratio 2.71
and yet another quote:
Brief specs of 1979 Dodge Magnum XE
2-door 5-seater fixed-head coupé, petrol (gasoline) 8-cylinder 16-valve V engine, OHV (overhead valve, I-head), 5900 cm3, 111.9 kW @ 3600 rpm, 359.0 N·m @ 2400 rpm, automatic 3-speed transmission, rear wheel drive, 170 km/h top speed
units: metric UK US
Basic (general) data
Marque (make) Dodge Issued from 1979
Model Magnum XE Issued until
Serie Magnum Number made
Model family Body construction
Model code Body designation
Manufacturer Chrysler LLC Country AR
Bodywork
Base platform Number of doors 2
Bodywork type fixed-head coupé Number of seats 5
Bodywork designer Cargo capacity (volume)
Passenger space (volume) Max. cargo capacity (volume)
Dimensions & Weight
Length 5480 mm Total (curb) weight 1682 kg
Width 1960 mm Dry weight
Height 1350 mm Load capacity
Wheelbase 2920 mm Gross (max.) weight
Track front 1570 mm Towing weight
Track rear 1570 mm Weight distribution (front)
Ground clearance 132 mm Fuel capacity 80 l
Length/wheelbase ratio 1.88
Aerodynamics
Drag coefficient (Cd, Cx, Cw) Frontal area (A) 2.25 m2 (est.)
Aerodynamic coefficient (Cd×A) Aerodynamic resistance (Aero horse power) at 100 km/h (62 mph)
Engine
Engine Code Total number of cylinders 8
Engine Type V engine Total number of valves 16
Engine Manufacturer Chrysler Valves per cylinder 2
Engine construction Bore 101.6 mm
Fuel petrol (gasoline) Stroke 90.9 mm
Fuel details Bore/Stroke ratio 1.12
Fuel supply 1 Ho carb Engine displacement 5900 cm3
Engine Main bearings 5 Unitary capacity 737.50 cm3/cylinder
Cam Design OHV (overhead valve, I-head) Compression ratio 8.4 : 1
Sump Max. output power 111.9 kW at 3600 rpm
Aspiration natural Max. torque 359.0 N·m at 2400 rpm
Compressor type N/A Maximum rpm
Intercooler no Max. net output (power at the wheels) 44.8 kW (est.)
Coolant water Specific output 19.0 kW/l
Catalytic converter yes Specific torque 60.9 N·m/l
Transmission
Transmission type automatic Number of gears 3
Wheel drive rear wheel drive Top gear (drive) ratio 1
Final gear (drive) ratio 2.45
Performance
Acceleration 0-50 mph (80 km/h) Top (maximal) speed 170 km/h
Acceleration 0-60 mph (97 km/h) Power-to-weight ratio 89.2 kW/ton
Acceleration 0-100 km/h Fuel consumption, City (urban)
Acceleration 0-100 mph (160 km/h) Fuel consumption, Road (extra-urban)
Acceleration 80-120 km/h (50-70 mph) in top Fuel consumption, Mixed (combined)
Standing ¼mile time Fuel consumption, Euro
Standing kilometer time CO2 emissions
Range
Chassis
Engine location front Engine alignment longitudinal
Steering recirculating ball PAS Steering details
Turns lock-to-lock 3.5 Turning circle 13.7 m
Suspension front Independent, Wishbone (A-arm, control arm), Long torsion bar, Anti-roll (anti-sway) bar (ARB) Suspension rear Live axle, Semi-elliptic leaf springs, Anti-roll (anti-sway) bar (ARB)
Wheels front Wheels rear
Tyres front Tyres rear
Brakes front ventilated disc Brakes rear drum
Brake diameter front Brake diameter rear
Brakes details servo-assisted Braked area
Here is the fan club:MagnumGT
Trex
Thats the second time you have said that.
I love people who make $hit up as they go and then post it as a fact with no supporting evidence.
As to me being a textbook champion.
Started running motocross bikes at 14.
Bought my first street bike at 18, a Kawasaki H2 triple
Picked up a class 1(with air endorsement) and a class 6.
Owned a bike for the next 36 years never one under a 1000cc.
Presently in the garage a 2003 ZRX 1200R.
Cars:
the usual bunch to start.
A 90's corvette then followed.
Joined the corvette club and did the track days and road courses.
Next was a 2000 BMW m3. I put a cold air intake on it and spent $2000 dyno/ remapping it.
Pulled the stock 155mph speed limiter off and reprogrammed the shift points from yellow line to hard redline.
Took a high performance driving course.
Took another one.
Took one with a Bob Bondurant guy.
Got my car safety inspected and approved for racing.
Got track insurance.
Got track certified and went to play.
In all honestly I didn't learn how good I was; I learned how good I wasn't.
No career in racing for me.
But I did learn how to drive very fast hi performance cars very fast.
As i have posted before I don't work in Canada and carry two passports.
Been driving all over the world for the last 25 years.
The last year and a half or so has been in Italy in rentals.
So thats my background.
Hows your experience level Lone Wolf?
Trex
You've never heard of deiberately retarding cam timing to meet govt regs? Anyone who knows their way around a V8 knows how to quickly eliminate the federally forced restrictions.
My experience is school of hard knocks....
So schooled means you know it all, eh? When do you have time to consult the textbook in a speed wobble, or when the back end comes unglued. If you don't have it, no book is going to help. It's called smarts over education. Smart people listen with their mouths shut because seldom is anything by the book.
So schooled means you know it all, eh? When do you have time to consult the textbook in a speed wobble, or when the back end comes unglued. If you don't have it, no book is going to help. It's called smarts over education. Smart people listen with their mouths shut because seldom is anything by the book.
The 86 is a 28 year old tank admittedly running 140 hp.
The handling and brakes were poor.
Its a shaft drive which means it loads up and unloads the rear suspension every time you get on and off the throttle.
In later years they detuned the thing because the frame and suspension couldn't handle the motor.
In 28 years the crown bearings, the engine bearings and the wheel bearings are probably flat spotted.
All the seals need replacing.
The shocks need rebuilding.
All the seals and bearings in your shaft drive are due for a replacement.
And you wind it out as fast as it will go in public?
As to your offer to race on a public road in Saskatchewan between Regina and Moose Jaw.
Ummmm, no thanks.
Not now, not ever.
In fact I don't want myself, my wife or any of my friends on a public road anywhere near you.
You freely claim to be able to wind out a tired 24 year old bike (that had notorious crappy breaks and handling) to close to 170 mph on a public road.
When I ask you if you have ever taken a motorcycle racing or handling course you dodge the question.
When I ask if you have raced(legally) or have track time you dodge the question.
You brag about being convicted and getting a suspended sentence for your driving on public roads.
Doesn't a suspended sentence mean your were convicted of a criminal offence and now have a criminal record?
Or did you make that up too?
Either way what you need to be thinking about is other people.
Like someones 16 year old daughter backing out of a driveway on that highway between Regina and Moose Jaw.
Or the little old half blind and partially deaf lady pulling out of a gravel crossroad in front of you.
Take it to the track Petros.
Get qualified.
Then if someone ever questions your astounding high speed feats you can show them the traps ticket or printout.
Trex
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