Severe food shortages, price spikes threaten world

[lone wolf]

Walter has it right. Dark Beaver relies on propaganda organizations for his news. Note that rich and sensible capitalists and their worker stooges will not starve.

The end is nigh! The socialist rally cry. Let fear drive the weak-minded into the arms of oppression. There they have starved in times past, and will starve again, no global warming required.

Dunno Jim. Hitler a socialist? Might be an idea for you to study up on a few facts too.

Frankenfood.... Is it going to eat us in the end? Biofuel - hydrocarbons from carbohydrates....

Somewhere along the way I learned that if you have to miss a meal for a pleasure then you have an addiction. Ol' Bill may have to come up with a 12 step for car drivers now....

Hi.... I'm Woof!

 

[karrie]

Totally wolf... addicted to freedom of movement... that would be an apt description of what's gotten humanity into this particular pickle.

 

[jimshort19]

Lone wolf, "Dunno Jim. Hitler a socialist? Might be an idea for you to study up on a few facts too."

The National Socialist Workers Party was Hitler's socialist political party. Now here's the real hard part to understand, there is no such thing as a socialist leader. Just demagogues. A socialist leader is in favour of centralized power and centralized capitalism, and the central thing is the leader himself. Hitler gave not a hoot for anything but power. He setting up hate targets (Jews his fave) and materialist promises (Volkswagens for all) for the weak-minded to rally to. This is a strategy that still wins today on this forum, but will not likely ever overcome the free world.

If you deny that Hitler was a socialist simply because he was labelled right wing by leftists, you are highly suggestive. If you deny that Hitler was a socialist because he was not a socialist, you are still wrong because Hitler was a liar and used socialism to decieve people, and that is standard socialist proceedure.

I suggest that you try relying on socialist news for a year. Read only news sources approved by Towsey and Dark Beaver. This little experiment will clue you in to what socialism is all about. It's about power. But it was a socialist that applied the materialist label to freedom (capitalism) and the humane label to tyranny (communism) and the labels stuck. It is in part because of these labels that weak minded people make horrifically mistaken moral decisions. Everything is upside down. The socialists are the materialists and the capitalists are for freedom.

Pay no attention to labels. A wise man said, "Judge a tree by the fruit it bears."

 

[darkbeaver]

A Short quote:
"Pay no attention to labels. A wise man said, "Judge a tree by the fruit it bears."

Your judgeing trees that have been gone for six decades by fruit that needs re-evaluation.

Now lets use your maxim and look at todays capitalist tree and it's fruit
constant war, famine, starvation, poverty, concentration of wealth, imperialism, corporate corruption, crime, disease, misinformation, inefficency, moral and ideological and ethical retardation, the police state, fascism. Where's the beef Jim? What has capitalism done for us lately Jim. Who are you addressing in your propa-lite postings?

Anybody can claim to be socialist and thereby fool the people.

George Bush & Co; claim to be the planets foremost exponents of democracy. Are they really? Seems that you may believe that. Or are you following some other agenda?

 

[darkbeaver]

Isreal was for many years an example of socialism at work, and indeed were it not for socialism Isreal would not exist. Kibbutz=communist farming centers in Isreal, the founding backbone of Isreal , still very popular, revered human institutions acctually because they work and work better than any thing else at food production, very efficient. Jim is just a kibitzer.:lol:

 

[lone wolf]

Lone wolf, "Dunno Jim. Hitler a socialist? Might be an idea for you to study up on a few facts too."

The National Socialist Workers Party was Hitler's socialist political party. Now here's the real hard part to understand, there is no such thing as a socialist leader. Just demagogues. A socialist leader is in favour of centralized power and centralized capitalism, and the central thing is the leader himself. Hitler gave not a hoot for anything but power. He setting up hate targets (Jews his fave) and materialist promises (Volkswagens for all) for the weak-minded to rally to. This is a strategy that still wins today on this forum, but will not likely ever overcome the free world.

If you deny that Hitler was a socialist simply because he was labelled right wing by leftists, you are highly suggestive. If you deny that Hitler was a socialist because he was not a socialist, you are still wrong because Hitler was a liar and used socialism to decieve people, and that is standard socialist proceedure.

I suggest that you try relying on socialist news for a year. Read only news sources approved by Towsey and Dark Beaver. This little experiment will clue you in to what socialism is all about. It's about power. But it was a socialist that applied the materialist label to freedom (capitalism) and the humane label to tyranny (communism) and the labels stuck. It is in part because of these labels that weak minded people make horrifically mistaken moral decisions. Everything is upside down. The socialists are the materialists and the capitalists are for freedom.

Pay no attention to labels. A wise man said, "Judge a tree by the fruit it bears."

Oh, Jim, please.... All that empty hot air is creating a draft. Hitler was extreme right. Socialist is a misnomer. You're so bloody stuck with labels it's a wonder you can move your fingers to type this crap.

Hint: Book - thing with pages. Mein Kampf....

Woof!

 

[jimshort19]

Dark Beaver, "George Bush & Co; claim to be the planets foremost exponents of democracy. Are they really? "

Firstly yes, and hands down. Foremost, absolutely. Fighting foremost. Who might you claim can touch America in this regard, America and her President? Hugo Chavez?

Secondly, why pretend to believe in freedom and democracy? Who are you trying to fool?

 

[Lester]

Hitler a Socialist? I do not seem to recall any propaganda picture of Hitler serving soup at at any Polish Soup kitchens -Mein Kempf = Drivel Hitler was driven by three things- revenge for the treaty of versai to reclaim territories taken from Germany, The reemergence of Germany on the world stage as a power to be reckoned with and his predisposition to hating jews, which he considered first and foremost as the major reason Germany suffered as they owned a large part of Germanys businesses and Banks and held down the common man, He was a delusional tyrant nothing more.

 

[jimshort19]

Dark Beaver, I've had a smoke. Milton Friedman was commonly acknowledged as the greatest economist on earth, in his day, and remains as the greaatest of the 20th century, probably forever. You mayn think that Naomi Klein is an economist, but she is not.

Walter, since when do socialists help the poor? Socialists are nothing but those who ndeclare themselves to be so, like Hitler and Mao, Stalin, et al. The poor die. They are poseurs for power. Real socialism doesn't exist and wannabe socialists that have no real leaders to look to admit it. They say that no communist was a socialist, and wipe the slate clean of examples in one fell swoop.

As you know Walter, the Democratic republics of Korea and Germany were not really democratic. As you also know, Hitler was no socialist. But there being no 'real' socialists, we gotta find somebody who exemplifies socialism, and Hitler is a typical liar, and socialist leaders are typically liars. That's REAL socialism.

 

[darkbeaver]

Milton Friedman was an evil piece of dung. Total capitalist piggy, sold his granny, cheated on his paper route. Ronald Reagan needed a whacky mad economic propagandist or no body would have heard of him. He legitimized theft, extortion, and fraud all of his ideas are fraudelent, he should be dug up and shot. "Trickle down" jesus, what a disaster for the comman man and a freakin boom for the wealthy. Don't mention the ugly little monster to me again. I need a smoke.:-?

 

[Toro]

Milton Friedman was an evil piece of dung. Total capitalist piggy, sold his granny, cheated on his paper route. Ronald Reagan needed a whacky mad economic propagandist or no body would have heard of him. He legitimized theft, extortion, and fraud all of his ideas are fraudelent, he should be dug up and shot. "Trickle down" jesus, what a disaster for the comman man and a freakin boom for the wealthy. Don't mention the ugly little monster to me again. I need a smoke.:-?

Pfft.

Thanks to the ideas of Milton Friedman, hundreds of millions of people are being lifted out of poverty around the world.

You socialist types may think living in a hut, scrounging the dirt for bugs to eat for dinner is a high state for mankind Beav, but frankly, I'd rather be sipping on my cognac on my expensive Italian leather sofa. ;-)

 

[Tonington]

The article may have stemmed from some socialist sight, but that doesn't make some of the facts any less pertinant. Droughts in the breadbaskets of many nations, production goes down, commodity price goes up. Government's greenwash and mandate the use of ethanol in fuel for menial gains in efficiency and emissions, if at all. Many billions of gallons from traditional grain crops, that can only be made cost effective through subsidies.

I've seen the same posted here from non-socialist sites.

 

[darkbeaver]

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[darkbeaver]

Pfft.

Thanks to the ideas of Milton Friedman, hundreds of millions of people are being lifted out of poverty around the world.

You socialist types may think living in a hut, scrounging the dirt for bugs to eat for dinner is a high state for mankind Beav, but frankly, I'd rather be sipping on my cognac on my expensive Italian leather sofa. ;-)

The Bull speaks, obviously sipping his way to the bottom of a second bottle. Friedman lifted, cutlerey, wallets, eyes, out of dead horses, and his degree. I'd rather eat fresh bugs and the dirt they come in, than be a capitalist.;-)