Secret of Space: Nasa 's biggest secret

[quandary121]

HAHAHA that's a pretty good one- succinct, very nice

to an idiot like you i can see why

 

[Tonington]

Basically i don't trust the things told by my government or TV, also i have a lot of friends who also have a questioning mind ,and send me things that intrigue them..

Youtube isn't television? How is it different from cable/satellite broadcasts? You already asked a similar question, but I find the about face interesting.

Its not that i believe these things ,that i defend them with such further ,it is because either there are too many unanswered questions.!

Who would need to answer your questions that you would trust, if you don't trust government or conventional media to answer them?

yep you dont think

So you have read every iota of information in the links you paste here?

yes i do rember it and yes i did say CASE CLOSED ,since then more evidence that this may not be the full story has emerged so im still not 100% sure that this is not the case...

Such as?

 

[Zzarchov]

oh so this is a chemical reaction or as you put it,a giant swarm of fireflies ..

Yes, that is potentially a chemical reaction, and far more likely to be something so remotely unlikely as a giant swarm of fireflies, than to be an alien.

Not in the least because everything they shot at it went straight through and then fall to the earth harming people.

That means its not solid, so its not a craft. But you jump to that conclusion, not because there is proof, but because you want that to be the answer.


Try it, make a chart showing what proof there is for it being and alien and not a cloud of fireflies, and what proof could go either way, and what one leans towards the fireflies.

 

[Zzarchov]

i answered this before but seeing as you do not read anything i put i shall not repeat myself again you will just have to go back and reread it

Ok. lets look at how you have answered this, when I said:

If this is a top secret, why is it on the internet

You answered it twice, in a row, with 2 different answers:

The first one is your rant that none if it is on the internet because the government has a super internet that makes getting the information impossible.

I suspect that the government has its own private secure internet thats is not on the same network as our internet that is why there has been no leak of top secret data or info and pics on aliens. we need to find an insider who has access to it and download its files on to external hard drive but i suspect even the hard drives are diffrent from the ones we use some sort of holographic memory system they are also working with quantum computers not the old binary systems. even if the inside person was able to get the info he wouldn't be able to leave the building all the equipment is imbedded with rfid chips that set off sensors and self destruct the data when it is tampered with. The question is how can we penitrate tihis system?

so what make one person more important then the other and who choses who gets acsess to this info? and are these networks connected around the globe with other top secret government networks or is it a united states defense network? so i guess the the top level tier of the network is related to the alien issues?

Your next post (before any else responds in the middle) claims that despite the super internet, freedom of the press means that people get the impossible information from the superinternet, then die.

ever heard of the free press .??? Or people work on the inside ,or whistleblowers people who risk there lives and often get killed after they have told there store's i suppose people who do say anything truthful are wary

When pressed further you come up with this:

Thank you AmberEyes i am aware of this site and other also, do you honesty think that these top scientists and NASA people would tell you the TRUTH have you heard of MAJESTIC 12 ???? i doubt it i cold post quit a few defiant sites that prove ,some things Ive said in my posts some agree some don't ,overwhelming evidence for aliens and UFOs have been documented and under the freedom of information act we can now read some of the past records , but do you think that highly classified info would be allowed to be published ...i doubt it , so we have to rely on other sources that will be discredited as nut jobs , because that's the way they can suppress the things being told to you ...!!!!

Which doesn't answer the question, it just pretends that scientists are all liars and makes the contradictory claims that UFO information is now published, but that the government would never let you read it.

It also never says WHY the government doesn't want you knowing about aliens.

(in response to NASA being an open Agency)
NO it aint its never has been ,,,it was said it faked moon landing photos , and countless other things
(in response to why for the government)
AREA 51 AND ROSWELL COME TO MIND AND THE FACT THAT TO THIS DAY THERE IS A 200 MILE LIMIT AROUND THE BASE...??
HAVE YOU HEARD OF BACK ENGINEERING OR NOT...!!!!
(more NASA)
NASA is apart of the Illuminati another fact you are unaware of
(more government)
because you have been kept in ignorance haven't you ,media controlled and told to do your 9-5 job, look after your family and not to worry ,drink your poisonous fluoridated water eat Aspartame in you food ,don't worry they are taking good care of you mate, you can be sure of that

In this bit you make claims without any backing (even you admit they are just wild claims) about the evil of NASA or the government, but still don't offer a single reason WHY they would lie about Aliens.

You hint at control, but with the way fear of foreign threats work, it would be better for any "sinister shadow governments" to make up aliens and have us fear them, then it would be to cover up aliens.

So again, you never actually said, WHY the government is hiding Aliens, you just claims "It is"

 

[Lineman]

Since quandary posted "top secret" info does that mean he'll get a visit from the men in black suits and Ray-Bans?8O

 

[scratch]

Since quandary posted "top secret" info does that mean he'll get a visit from the men in black suits and Ray-Bans?8O

No, just CSIS.

 

[quandary121]

So again, you never actually said, WHY the government is hiding Aliens, you just claims "It is"

Poll: U.S. hiding knowledge of aliens CNN, June 15, 1997
original source | fair use notice
Summary: Nearly 50 years since an alleged UFO was sighted at Roswell, New Mexico, a CNN/Time poll shows that 80 percent of Americans think the government is hiding knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms.
Nearly 50 years since an alleged UFO was sighted at Roswell, New Mexico, a new CNN/Time poll released Sunday shows that 80 percent of Americans think the government is hiding knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms.

While nearly three-quarters of the 1,024 adults questioned for the poll said they had never seen or known anyone who saw a UFO, 54 percent believe intelligent life exists outside Earth.

Sixty-four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans, half said they've abducted humans, and 37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

But only 9 percent said they believed there were any aliens near the Hale-Bopp comet, which recently passed close enough to Earth to be seen with the naked eye.

Some "ufologists" believed a spacecraft was hidden near the comet, and members of the Heaven's Gate cult committed suicide, believing that they would be taken aboard the craft and returned "home."

What happened in Roswell?

As for the Roswell incident, nearly two-thirds of the respondents to the poll said they believed that a UFO crash-landed in a field outside the New Mexico town 50 years ago next month.

In one of the most famous UFO "sightings" in U.S. history, Roswell residents in 1947 saw lights in the night sky, followed by a loud explosion. A rancher found the "crash site" and removed a large piece of debris, storing it in his shed.

A few days later, Air Force officials from nearby Roswell Air Force Base inspected the site and the debris, and issued a press release announcing the recovery of a "flying disc." The Air Force quickly retracted that statement, and claimed the debris was from a weather balloon.

But countless statements -- some from military personnel -- appeared to contradict the Air Force's revised position. And several "witnesses" claimed to have seen bodies of dead aliens whisked away by the military.

Roswell today capitalizes on its fame as a UFO crash site -- whether or not it actually happened -- and is hosting a 50th anniversary celebration the first week of July.

Friend or foe?
Most people -- 91 percent -- told the pollsters that they had never had contact with aliens or known anyone who had. A similar number -- 93 percent -- said they had never been abducted or known anyone whisked away by beings from another planet.

But if they do meet someone from a galaxy far, far away, 44 percent said they expect to be treated as friends, while 26 percent think they'll be treated as enemies.

Thirty-nine percent don't expect aliens to appear very humanoid, although 35 percent said they probably look "somewhat" human.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc830.htm

 

[quandary121]

U.S. Hiding Alien Spacecraft And Alien Beings

The best way know know what happened at Roswell is by someone who was actually there. Here are the words of Carlene Green the daughter of Homer Rowlett. Homer Rowlett was part of the U.S. Government clean up crew at the Roswell Ranch crash site. Rowlett was given the highest security clearances in the U.S. Air force.
More of this interview is here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ybfg... UFO DIRECTORY:: :
ALIENS WERE EXAMINED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxF3cn...
SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMh3Cg...
300 GOVERNMENT AND MILITARY WITNESSESS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5uZ15...
FIRST ALIEN ENCOUNTER US GOVT COVERUP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zSc8M...
PICTURES OF ALIENS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP31p9...
Real UFO ON VIDEO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FeAK-...
MEET THE E.T. INTERPRETER FOR THE U.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1crfRp...
HISTORY OF UFOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai8KeN...
UFO; UNCOVERING A NATIONAL SECRET
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zh4M9...
U.S. Hiding Alien Spacecraft And Alien Beings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NPhKW...
A LOOK AT THE ALIENS WAY UP CLOSE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtQ-aB...
UFO DOCUMENTARIES
Out OF THE BLUE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5JOP_...
UFOS THE HIDDEN TRUTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gCtj7...
FASTWALKERS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOVonI...
UFOS THE GREATEST STORY EVER DENIED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXPxlL...
Riddle In The Skies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LpQB8...
SECRET SPACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVbR6B...
SHAG HARBOUR UFO INCIDENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbEw6H...
BACK ENGINEERING A UFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxKVg2...
CHINA'S ROSWELL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RWDIr...
LARRY KING LIVE WITH ARIZONA GOV. AND MORE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgqb3F...

ABDUCTEE TESTIMONY
BETTY BARNEY HILL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7UEQQ...
TRAVIS WALTON FIRE IN THE SKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejyr0q...
AUSTRALIAN HIGHWAY ENCOUNTER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On5xIH...
PRESIDENT TRUMAN ADMITS UFOS ARE HERE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjQvMi...
ASTRONUAT SEES UFO LAND AND TAKE OFF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_usx9...
FINAL PROOF CROP CIRCLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHzlfp...
FIRST REAL UFO BATTLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPow1...
UFO PILOT AIRTRAFFIC CONTROL UFO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_1mY...
QUANTUM PHYSICS OF UFO TRAVEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnk6F...
HANDHELD SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMdEMd...
The TRUTH ABOUT ROSWELL FINALLY REVEALED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5ybfg...
62 KIDS ENCOUNTER UFOS AND ALIENS BEINGS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctimRp...
The Days Of The Lives Of The Abducted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUIoFM...
Visit A True Alien Graveyard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuP60G...
UFO MUSEUM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4uTcv...
STEREOGRAMS ALIENS UFO PICS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFDFrU...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STMHn...
1952 UFO WAVE Largest Wave of all Time FACTUAL OBSERVATION DATA:
http://www.nicap.org/waves/1952fullre...

 

[quandary121]

What you'll learn reading ABOVE BLACK...

• Breakdown of how grey projects (those projects related to alien knowledge) are kept under wraps so effectively from the prying eyes of the public;
• In depth description of the intuitive communicator (IC) school attended by the author at the NSA facility at Ft. Meade, MD;
• How the intuitive communications ability was unlocked in the author's mind by exotic computer equipment;
• What publicly traded company the author linked back to the classified IC school operations;
• Revelations about how aliens use time and electromagnetic energy for travel; how long aliens have been visiting earth and possible links to a certain line of humans; about religion, God and mankind's origin; their lifespan...etc;
• Discussion about potential reasons for Project Preserve Destiny's reason to exist and how that might affect mankind in the future;
• Assorted pictures related to the author's assignments and an interesting scan of his change of station orders.

For $18, you'll receive a trade paperback copy of ABOVE BLACK, immediate access to the ebook, immediate access to the audio book and while supplies last, you'll also get a copy of the DVD. It contains the full 15 minute author interview that you see a snippet of here on the site.





Updated for 2006...(Indonesian Earthquake Predicted)

Read how the author was able to predict with remarkable accuracy, the Indonesian seismic event 114 days prior to when it occurred in Dec of 2004. Here is a documented quote from the author's blog 114 days prior to the event:
"I just hope the intensity of the event doesn't directly correlate with the intensity of the physical manifestation I've been experiencing. If it does, it will be absolutely devastating. Let's hope I'm wrong."
There's much more regarding this impending event quoted in ABOVE BLACK.

http://www.aboveblack.com/

 

[quandary121]

Peter Davenport: UFOs Do Exist, Government Hiding The Facts

Peter Davenport is a prominent scientist and Stanford graduate who claims UFOs do exist and the government is hiding information from the general public. UFO DIRECTORY::

 

[Zzarchov]

Poll: U.S. hiding knowledge of aliens CNN, June 15, 1997
original source | fair use notice
Summary: Nearly 50 years since an alleged UFO was sighted at Roswell, New Mexico, a CNN/Time poll shows that 80 percent of Americans think the government is hiding knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms.
Nearly 50 years since an alleged UFO was sighted at Roswell, New Mexico, a new CNN/Time poll released Sunday shows that 80 percent of Americans think the government is hiding knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms.

While nearly three-quarters of the 1,024 adults questioned for the poll said they had never seen or known anyone who saw a UFO, 54 percent believe intelligent life exists outside Earth.

Sixty-four percent of the respondents said that aliens have contacted humans, half said they've abducted humans, and 37 percent said they have contacted the U.S. government. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

But only 9 percent said they believed there were any aliens near the Hale-Bopp comet, which recently passed close enough to Earth to be seen with the naked eye.

Some "ufologists" believed a spacecraft was hidden near the comet, and members of the Heaven's Gate cult committed suicide, believing that they would be taken aboard the craft and returned "home."

What happened in Roswell?

As for the Roswell incident, nearly two-thirds of the respondents to the poll said they believed that a UFO crash-landed in a field outside the New Mexico town 50 years ago next month.

In one of the most famous UFO "sightings" in U.S. history, Roswell residents in 1947 saw lights in the night sky, followed by a loud explosion. A rancher found the "crash site" and removed a large piece of debris, storing it in his shed.

A few days later, Air Force officials from nearby Roswell Air Force Base inspected the site and the debris, and issued a press release announcing the recovery of a "flying disc." The Air Force quickly retracted that statement, and claimed the debris was from a weather balloon.

But countless statements -- some from military personnel -- appeared to contradict the Air Force's revised position. And several "witnesses" claimed to have seen bodies of dead aliens whisked away by the military.

Roswell today capitalizes on its fame as a UFO crash site -- whether or not it actually happened -- and is hosting a 50th anniversary celebration the first week of July.

Friend or foe?
Most people -- 91 percent -- told the pollsters that they had never had contact with aliens or known anyone who had. A similar number -- 93 percent -- said they had never been abducted or known anyone whisked away by beings from another planet.

But if they do meet someone from a galaxy far, far away, 44 percent said they expect to be treated as friends, while 26 percent think they'll be treated as enemies.

Thirty-nine percent don't expect aliens to appear very humanoid, although 35 percent said they probably look "somewhat" human.

[URL]http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc830.htm[/URL]

That says American's believe this. Thats not what I asked. In fact none of your replies answer what I asked, they talk about what the government is doing, some even how the government is doing it.

BUT

I asked WHY is the US government hiding knowledge about Aliens?

Give me one reason WHY the US government not only wouldn't scream from the rooftops about the Alien menace and tell you to duct tape your windows and let them wiretap your phones to protect you..

But that they would actually supress all knowledge about the Aliens completely.

And not just the US government, ALL governments, even the ones who would love to topple the US government by exposing such hidden truths. Ones who have their own ability to document, capture, etc Alien space craft.

What benefit is there for the Majority of the nations in this world (who would find a majority of the Aliens) to help America.

Why is Cuba helping America? Why is Hugo Chavez helping America? Why are North Korea and Iran helping America? Why did Saddam Hussein help America?

Can you give me any reasons to any of these questions, of WHY?

 

[quandary121]

That says American's believe this. Thats not what I asked. In fact none of your replies answer what I asked, they talk about what the government is doing, some even how the government is doing it.

BUT

I asked WHY is the US government hiding knowledge about Aliens?

Give me one reason WHY the US government not only wouldn't scream from the rooftops about the Alien menace and tell you to duct tape your windows and let them wiretap your phones to protect you..

But that they would actually supress all knowledge about the Aliens completely.

And not just the US government, ALL governments, even the ones who would love to topple the US government by exposing such hidden truths. Ones who have their own ability to document, capture, etc Alien space craft.

What benefit is there for the Majority of the nations in this world (who would find a majority of the Aliens) to help America.

Why is Cuba helping America? Why is Hugo Chavez helping America? Why are North Korea and Iran helping America? Why did Saddam Hussein help America?

Can you give me any reasons to any of these questions, of WHY?

Have you heard about the 13 familys that run the world ....????

THE SATANIC BLOODLINES

secrets of the Illuminati are locked up tightly simply because secrecy is a way of life. It is such a way of life, that they resent the Carroll Quigleys and the James H. Billingtons Long ago in the dark unwritten pages of human history, powerful kings discovered how they could control other men by torture, magical practices, wars, politics, religion and interest taking. These elite families designed strategies and tactics to perpetuate their occult practices. Layers upon layers of secrecy have hidden these families from the profane masses,In mockery and imitation of God’s 12 tribes, Satan blessed 12 bloodlines. One of these bloodlines was the Ishmaeli bloodline from which a special elite line developed alchemy, assassination techniques, and other occult practices. One bloodline was Egyptian/Celtic/Druidic from which Druidism was developed. One bloodline was in the orient and developed oriental magic. One lineage was from Canaan and the Canaanites. It had the name Astarte, then Astorga, then Ashdor, and then Astor. The tribe of Dan was used as a Judas Iscariot type seed. The royalty of the tribe of Dan have descended down through history as a powefful Satanic bloodline. The 13th or final blood line was copied after God’s royal lineage of Jesus. This was the Satanic House of David with their blood which they believe is not only from the House of David but also from the lineage of Jesus, who they claim had a wife and children. The 13th Satanic bloodline was instilled with the direct seed of Satan so that they would not only carry Christ’s blood--but also the blood of his "brother" Lucifer.
One of the bloodlines goes back to Babylon and are descendent from Nimrod. Down through the years the occult world has remained hidden from the history books. (Publishing and education have been controlled privileges.) They have ruled behind the scenes. The Mystery Religions each had their secret councils which ruled them, and these councils themselves came under the guidance of a secret supreme Grand Council or Governing Body. The Mystery Religions in turn ruled the masses and the political leaders

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/introduction.htm

 

[quandary121]

1 1.The Astor Bloodline

2. 2. The Bundy Bloodline

3.3. The Collins Bloodline

4.4. The DuPont Bloodline

5.5. The Freeman Bloodline

6 6. The Kennedy Bloodline

7 7. The Li Bloodline

8.8.The Onassis Bloodline

9 9. The Reynolds bloodline​

110. The Rockefeller Bloodline

11. The Rothschild Bloodline

12.The Russell Bloodline

13. The Van Duyn Bloodline

[Merovingian] (European Royal Families)

Interconnected families:​

The Disney Bloodline

The Krupp Bloodline

The McDonald Bloodline​

 

[quandary121]

The Merovingian Bloodline


The 13th Illuminati Bloodline is where the Anti-Christ will come from. This bloodline believes that it has both the Holy Blood of Jesus and the blood (or seed) of Satan in its bloodline. In my Be Wise AsSerpentsbook, I make reference to this bloodline but I never really took the time to explain it completely. In fact I don’t fully understand this bloodline myself. I encourage those who want to learn more about this bloodline to study the following books:Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Lincoln, Leigh & BalgentThe Messianic LegacyTheTemple & the LodgeCrusaders of the Grail by J.R. Church The Anti-Christ King--Juan Carlos by Dr. Charles R. Taylor

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/merovingian.htm

 

[quandary121]

There are an extensive number of extraterrestrial races known to be currently interacting with Earth and the human population. In a 1998 interview, Clifford Stone, a retired US army Sergeant who served in the US Army for 22 years and participated in covert operations to retrieve crashed extraterrestrial ships and extraterrestrial biological entities (EBE’s), revealed there were a total of 57 extraterrestrial races known to the US military.

 

[quandary121]

THE CASE OF THE FLYING SAUCERS
by Manly Palmer Hall (33ø), July 2, 1950
Typed lecture notes by Virginia B. Pomeroy
241 Orizaba Avenue, Long Beach 3, California

This morning our purpose is to analyze certain aspects of the human mind in connection with the mysterious case of the Flying Saucers. First of all I would like to create a little parallel, something that will

help folks to see just what we are up against in a matter of this kind. Quite a number of years ago a famous stage magician by the name of Harry Keller created a strange illusion, he perfected in stage magic the Illusion of levitation. Keller, who was a very able exponent of the art of conjuring, worked out a method by the means of which the human body could be suspended in the middle of a well lighted stage without any visible means of support. He was able to so project it that a committee, honestly chosen from the audience could walk around the stage and even could walk under the floating body. Of course, in those days legerdemain was one of the principal forms of entertainment. It has failed in popularity because folks of our generation are insulted rather than amused when they are fooled. Keller gave his professional secret, the mystery of the floating lady, to Howard Thurston, who exhibited it to the public throughout his life. In order to add glamour to the spectacle, the scene was decked in Oriental splendor, like the Arabian Nights, which brought to the mind of the beholder the wonderful story of the magic of the East, all of which contributed to the disorientation of his judgment, which was the necessary ingredient of such entertainment.

After watching this illusion a number of times from the audience, I used to listen to the explanations that were given. Those present knew in their common mind that it was a trick of some kind. The majority of these audiences assumed that and were not profoundly shaken in their judgment even though completely deceived by their eyes, which proved definitely that you cannot always believe what you see. There were, however, in such groups several classes of people, and there was always that little group interested in Eastern mysticism, which would have been willing to die to defend the belief that the lady actually floated, that it was done by a secret formula right out of the Arabian Nights. Nothing could have convinced them to the contrary.

Then there was another group semantically addicted to the belief that conjurers and mirrors were always associated. When you do not know how it is done, it is done by mirrors. So another group was very smug, happy and wise and knew all about it, it was done with mirrors. Having decided that, they gained proper distinction in their own eyes and among their associates and they were ready to enjoy the performance. There was another group with a more scientific type of mind. This group would gather in the corner of the lobby and explain in detail how it was all done with magnets. Magnets were the mysterious thing you could do anything with. It never occurred to these people to have it done by magnets would be more difficult than to have the lady actually float.

I listened to these groups explaining the wonder and it was only on rare occasions that anyone ever suggested anything that was close to the facts. In the first place, facts were too simple and in the second place, the mind was conditioned away from the prosaic understanding of the matter. It was very amusing because I happened to know how it was done having been present on a number of occasions when the device was assembled. They did not realize how perfectly, how simply and how completely the human mind can be misdirected. Of course, incidentally, we may say there was the lunacy fringe that had decided the whole audience had been hypnotized. But the real answer was very simple, but very cleverly and intelligently worked out.


http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/case_of_the_flying_saucers.htm


Manly Palmer Hall have you heard of him...?????

 

[EagleSmack]

The real big secret are the hot and horny women of Venus:lol:

That is a big secret. Everyone knows that Venus is populated with Hot Amazon type women.

 

[quandary121]

[FONT=Lucida Handwriting, Black Chancery, Tahoma]The Secret Government
[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]History is replete with whispers of secret societies. Accounts of elders or priests who guarded the
forbidden knowledge of ancient peoples. Prominent men, meeting in secret, who directed the course of civilization are
recorded in the writings of all people. [/FONT]

A Covenant with Death
"We have been taught lies. Reality is not at all what we perceive it to be.
We cannot survive any longer by hanging onto the falsehoods of the past." The Government Signs Treaties with the Aliens...

Operation Majority
This file contain the absolute true information regarding the alien presence on earth and the
US Governments involvement with the aliens.

Government and Military Involvement in
UFOs and Abductions
Project Grudge | Project Sign | Project Blue Book | ...

The Zeta Riticuli Incident- A faint pair of stars, 220 trillion miles away, has been tentatively identified as the “home base” of intelligent
extraterrestrials who allegedly visited Earth in 1961. This hypothesis is based on a strange, almost bizarre series of
events mixing astronomical research with hypnosis, amnesia, and alien humanoid creatures. -
- by Terence Dickinson -

The Presidents UFO Web Site
In the pages of this Web site you will hopefully be led on a journey that will show you the entire known history
of how the most powerful man in the world has dealt with the most highly classified secret of the last century. In short,
this is the story of how the President and the White House have dealt with the mystery of UFOs.
- by Grant Cameron [highly recommended by the late William Cooper] -

Top Secret Military Bases
Homes of Ultra Top Secret Projects

Secret Bases on the Moon and Mars
THEY have kept technology from us. With the idea that the masses cannot assimilate quantum leaps of knowledge and innovation, they have suppressed things that could have greatly advanced humankind. THEY could help the masses, but THEY don't.

Battles Beneath the Earth (Parts 1-4)
-"In a report entitled 'PROJECT BETA' Paul states that he had spent two years tracking alien craft; that he had constant
reception of video from an alien ship and underground base viewscreen; that he had established constant direct
communications with the aliens using a computer and a form of Hexadecimal code

The Disclosure Project
The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs,
extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400
government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand
experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.

The Disclosure Project Video
400 witnesses step forward, willing to testify under oath before the Congress
regarding the UFO and Alien Cover-up

Aliens, Coverups, and Free Energy
- an interview with Dr. Steven Greer -- Earlier in 2004, Phenomena Editor Richard Dolan interviewed Dr. Steven Greer. Greer is the founder of the Center for [the] Study of Extraterrestrial intelligence (CSETI), which claimes to have initiated communication and contact with extraterrestrials on Earth.
In addition, Greer has founded the Disclosure Project, dedicated to ending official secrecy regarding UFOs. -

Steven Greer Interviewed Regarding "ET" Disclosure in Canada
[Audio: Part 1; Part 2]
- Dr. Steven Greer was interviewed November 30th, 2005 at from 5 to 6 pm Central time on the Jim Fisher Show, On WOC AM 1420, in Davenport, Iowa. The discussion topic included the recent announcement of the former Canadian Minister Of Defence Asking Canadian Parliament To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "Et" Civilizations. Listen to the archive of this program by clicking on the following mp3 files. -
- Disclosureproject.org -

Peter Jennings Defrauding:
Inside The ABC News UFO Documentary Hoax
- Of course, the title of the show was 'Peter Jennings Reporting…' - if only that were so. This is the story of how, once again, the corrupt Big Media has defrauded the American people, from one who had a front row seat to the spectacle. -- by Dr. Steven Greer, for the Disclosure Project, March 2005 -

Reaching Disclosure: An Interview with Steven Greer
If what Stephen Greer is saying is true, CNN, ABC, NBC, and the Fox Network should be camped outside his door waiting for his latest pronouncement. That they aren’t may be evidence of the level of denial about UFOs and extraterrestrials that has permeated the media, government, and mainstream culture.

Testimony of Dr. Carol Rosin
- Below is a most informative history of the US involvement with UFO's. Our contact also reveals startling testimony about Dulce.
This is one of the most revealing accounts of Dulce and other pertinent info, I have ever seen.


Senator Hatch on ET- Sen. Hatch: I have reviewed the information you recommended to me, and I can assure you that your concerns are unnecessary. The Federal government does not have any information about extraterrestrial life to conceal, and there are no secret projects for me to investigate." -
- Really??? Well, watch this 2hours long movie (material Hatch has taken part of) and make up your own mind. The cover-up is total.
Confessions Of An FBI "X-File" Agent
The following is from a secret report released by an FBI special agent code-named JORDON, who has been involved with the intrigues taking place near Dulce, New Mexico and Area 51 [Dreamland] Nevada. Among his fellow colleagues within the FBI, Jordon was often referred to as "The X-File Man".

The Cult of the Serpent
As for the covert space operations that are being carried out by various top-secret organizations within the U.S. government, they are based on a combination of "alien" technology recovered from numerous crash-retrievals of aerial disks, while other aspects are based on prototype and state-of-the-art Military-Industrial technologies developed by well-known U.S. companies.

The Branton Files



Media Play
by Steven M. Greer M.D.
Conventional Wisdom has it that we live in a free and open society with a free press,
which plays the role of a key check and balance on government secrecy and abuse. This and other fantasies,
foisted on a gullible public, have enabled runaway illegal secret projects to get away with murder, and they are now on the
verge of planeticide - the killing of an entire planet.

Why Did The Air Force Promote
The Extraterrestrial UFO Viewpoint ?
Sidney Shalett with full cooperation from the intelligence section of the Air Force's Project Grudge published a two part article that appeared on April 30 and May 7, 1949 in The Saturday Evening Post titled "What You Can Believe About flying Saucers". This was the first article to explain nationally the Air Force position on the flying saucer enigma.

Memory of Phil Schneider
Survivor of 1979 Fire Fight in Dulce, New Mexico
- Phil Schneider, one of three people to survive the 1979 fire fight between the large Greys , US intelligence and military at the Dulce underground base.was found dead January 1996, due to what appears to be an execution style murder. -

Soviet Army Fought UFOs
One can blame the military of inhuman actions on bringing down flying objects. But what can they do if the object was moving in the direction of the state border and they had the order to destroy such objects? ​

The Aliens Are Coming! The Aliens Are Coming! Show to Begin This Year?
I don't want to identify the source of this e-mail, but I agree with the assessments stated here. MUFON, of course, IS a CIA/NSA/FBI/ONI infiltrated organization and has been from its inception.

Dan Sherman - Above Black
Above Black- Project preserve destiny - Insider account of alien contact and government cover-up -
- AboveBlack.com -

UFOs: What the Government Really Knows- For more than 50 years, shadowy government agencies have supressed information about extraterrestrials and the use of E.T. technology. -
- Interview with Disclosure Project's Steven Greer, published in Hustler magazine's November 2005 issue -

Former Canadian National Defense Minister Claims UFO Cover-Up- Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian Minister for National Defense from the Sixties, is calling UFOs "the biggest cover-up in history," according to a story on Whitley Streiber's Unknown Country website. He made his accusation in a recent speech in Toronto, titled "A Symposium on UFO Disclosure and Planetary Direction." -
- Mathaba.net, Oct 08, 2005 -

Secret Government UFO File Unveiled
National Security Agency affidavit sheds light on Cold War-era efforts
- There is one question that persistently circles the community of Unidentified Flying Object true-believers: If the government has nothing to hide, UFO fans often ask, then why is it keeping so many UFO records under lock and key? -
- MSNBC, Nov 16, 2005 -

Former Canadian Minister Of Defense Asks Canadian Parliament To Hold Hearings On Relations With Alien "ET" Civilizations- A former Canadian Minister of Defence has joined forces with three Non-governmental organizations to ask the
Parliament of Canada to hold public hearings on with Alien "ET" Civilizations. -
- Yahoo! News, Nov 24, 2005 -

Satanism, Military, Reptilians and Aliens linked by One Person's Life Story - But as I've attested at the end of the entries I've listed here, everything that I've written HAS happened to the best of my knowledge. Too many things both my parents told my siblings and myself seem to corroborate much of what has happened to me. -
- by Kara Mildenhall -

“We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity….. anything you can imagine we already know how to do.”​

Ben Rich, former Head of the Lockheed Skunk Works, in a lecture shortly before he died​

Project Serpo - The Zeta Reticuli Exchange Program- The gradual release of confidential documents pertaining to a top secret exchange program of twelve US military personnel to Serpo, a planet of Zeta Reticuli, between the years 1965-78 -
- Serpo.org -

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NASA Hacker Says There's a UFO Coverup - In an interview on the BBC program "Click," Gary McKinnon, who faces 60 years in prison if he is extradited to the United States from England, said that he had obtained a photo of an object that was "cigar-shaped and had geodesic domes above, below, to the left, the right and both ends of it," and that it was in space above earth's atmosphere. When asked if it might be an artist's impression, he answered that he didn't know. -
- UnknownCountry.com/BBC News, May 08, 2006 -

Gary McKinnon and Official Propaganda- Many people wonder how, if as the British and U.S government have always claimed that U.F.O’s do not exist, how can computer nerd Gary McKinnon be charged with breaking into U.S. files and reading them?
How can you read what does not exist? -

UFO Study Finds No Signs of Aliens- A confidential Ministry of Defence report on Unidentified Flying Objects has concluded that there is no proof of alien life forms.
In spite of the secrecy surrounding the UFO study, it seems citizens of planet Earth have little to worry about. -
- BBC News, May 07, 2006 -

The Lectures of Dr. William R. Deagle
[Videos]
- These are the most breath-taking lectures I have ever heard; the knowledge and wisdom this man sits on is beyond anything I have encountered so far. He covers it all: 9/11, the portals in Iraq and Iran, which the Illuminati now are trying to open to let evil demonic entities through (thus the Iraq- and the upcoming Iran wars), who God is, how the Universe was created and our role in it, where we, as spiritual being fit into the picture, and WHO THE ILLUMINATI REALLY ARE! -
- by Wes Penre, Sep 03, 2007 -

Bush Plans Defense Stance Against [Space] Aliens
- The former Canadian Defense Minister shares what he has learned about a forward defense base planned to be constructed on the moon to guard against rogue Aliens. -
- by MSNBC, Sep 18, 2007-

Plan 9 From Outer Space- In January 1979, The New York Times reported that despite repeated, feverish denials, the CIA had indeed investigated the UFO phenomenon: "CIA Papers Detail UFO Surveillance" screamed the headline. The report is said to have so upset the then CIA director, Stansfield Turner, that he reportedly asked his staff: "Are we in UFOs?"
The answer was yes - since the late 1940s, apparently. But exactly how, what, when, why and who remained layered in mystery, leaving grist for the conspiracy mill. -
- The Sydney Morning Herald, Nov 03, 2007 -

U.S. Scientists Unveil NASA’s Secrets About Cities on the Moon and Microbes on Mars
- The former manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Program, Ken Johnston, has released quite a number of sensational statements recently in the USA. The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon. -
- Pravda.ru, Oct 31, 2007 -

UFO - The Greatest Story Ever Denied
[Video: 01:34:02]- This is the best of the whole story of UFO investigation that we have today. It’s an All in One, UFO’s Prophecy and technology. -
- YouTube, Dec 24, 2006 -

Underground Bases:

Area 51 (Groom Lake) - The UFO Cover-Up
The United States government has been in business with little gray
extraterrestrials for about 20 years.

Groom Lake Timeline
Area 51, also called "Dreamland". Here is a timeline of events of this secret Government site

The New 'Area 51' The Air Force has abandoned top-secret testing at its once most secret test site.
We know why and we know where they moved it to.

Charles Hall and the Tall Whites - Another Perception of the Extraterrestrial Phenomenon and the Area 51
Karmapolis.be

I-Team: Area 52, The Secret Sister

[00:04:51]- Some of the greatest and most secretive airplanes in history have been developed in the Nevada desert, most of them at the now-infamous base known as Area 51. It turns out Area 51 has a sister facility -- Area 52 -- and it's a place with secrets of its own. -
- by George Knapp, Chief Investigative Reporter for "Las Vegas Now", Nov 09, 2007 -

James Casbolt's Project Mannequin Interview at 2007 Cornwall UFO Conference [8 Videos]
- The interview below [...] gives details regarding the New World Order program to take control of the UK before 2012. This program is called Project Mannequin which I was directly involved in and is being run by the NSA from various underground facilities cantered around London and Berkshire such as the AL/499 base 200ft below the town of Peasemore in Berkshire...The information is very disturbing and I make no apologies and pull no punches as you need to know this for your future. -
- by James Casbolt -

Dr. Dan Burisch
The Saga of Dr. Dan Burisch
Does the fate of the planet hinge on this man? He says he's only one piece of the puzzle,
but others seem to think he is a keystone.

Area 51 Microbiologist Dr. Dan Burisch Ready To Talk
Dr. Dan Burisch, who is in lock-down, working with the Lotus project, seeks immunity to stand before a Congressional
hearing or other appropriate public body, to disclose his first-hand knowledge, with proof, of U.S. government involvement in
designer viruses and other black-ops.

Jeff Rense Interview With Bill Hamilton Regarding Dr. Dan Burisch
Transcript of the Rense radio show date 7th April 2004

Dr Dan Burisch, Project Lotus and
Disclosure of the Extraterrestrial Presence
On April 8, 2004, an article began to circulate among media organizations and the internet claiming that
Daniel [Catselas] Burisch, PhD., a microbiologist who has worked in the 'black projects' that deal with extraterrestrial
races and technologies wants to disclose information of his classified activities to the US Congress

US Government Scientist Confirms Allegations of Harassment of American Asylum-Seekers
The Deppeller family (Don Deppeller, Toni Jannelli and Louise White) had made claims that they had been harassed and kept under surveillance because of their awareness of highly-classified US gov’t. projects, and in a remarkable turn of events, their claims were actually corroborated by one of America’s top scientists who worked on these projects. – one Dr. Dan Burisch...

Interview with Dan Burisch, Former Microbiologist for the Illuminati
- Dan [Burisch] discusses his experience in Area 51, where he befriended a captive J-rod called Chi'el'ah; his complex relationship with Chi'el'ah, extending across decades and timelines; his connection with Majestic-12; the war between Majestic and the Illuminati; the race to close down the Looking Glass technology and secure the man-made stargates leading up to 2012; the calculated chance (19%, or 1 in 5), that 4 billion people will die from natural catastrophes triggered by the activation of the manmade stargates; the twists and turns of the convergent timeline paradox that affect the aliens from the future as much as they do ourselves; and much, much more. -
- Project Camelot, June 2007 -
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Startling Dulce Info! UFOSSI News Release!
Below is a most informative history of the US involvement with UFO's. Our contact also reveals startling testimony about Dulce.
This is one of the most revealing accounts of Dulce and other pertinent info, I have ever seen. I realize it may just be to hard to accept the reality of the Dulce base. But keep in mind, there have been many confirmations, and from top Ufologists, and one particular Ufologist who has told me personally, that he interviewed a Dulce officer that left Dulce, and began to talk.
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Philip Schneider - Government Secrets Revealed- Prior to Philip’s murder he revealed a great deal of information about the deep underground base beneath Denver’s international airport. Alex Christopher who went on to write the Pandora’s Box book [two volumes in total] was the first to reveal the existence of this base through word and in print from what I understand after Philip’s death. -
- by Ashley O'Toole -

Underground Bases - A Lecture by Phil Schneider, May 1995- Phil Schneider, a very brave man, recently lost his life due to what appeared to be a military-style execution in January 1996. He was found dead in his apartment with piano wire still wrapped around his neck. According to some sources, he had been brutally tortured repeated before being killed. Phil Schneider was an ex-government engineer who was involved in building underground bases. -
- by Phil Schneider, May 1995 -

Phil Schneider: Underground Bases (Part 2)- Following is yet another article downloaded from the Internet with reference to Phil Schneider. Although not written by Schneider himself, the following is an interview with a woman who was aquatinted with the late underground base technician. -
- by Unknown -

Roswell Officer's Amazing Deathbed Admission Raises Possibility That Aliens DID Visit
- Haut's affidavit talks about a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, Gen Roger Ramey. Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material. -
- by Nick Pope, DAILY MAIL, June 30 2007 -

What's Going On Out There?
Interview with geologist Elaine Bickle
- This interview came about because of the following link I found when I placed ‘Apollo 20 alien spaceship’ in Google. My eyes saw the You Tube clip, but it was staggering and unbelievable. I had to know, ‘Was this real? Is this true?’
I was excited and read some of the thousands of comments on the You Tube thread. NO ONE believed it! Some of the cynical comments were similar to ‘it’s a pencil,’ someone chewed on a pencil. -
- by Doug Yurchey, Aug 19, 2007 -

The Unknown:

Big Machines Parked In Orbit - Black Ops, Star Wars Or ET? Or All Of The Above?
- What you are about to see is quite remarkable. It seems that some of the stars above us are not stars at all...as you shall see. A young man by the name of John Lenard Walson has discovered a new way to extend the capabilities of small telescopes and has been able to achieve optical resolutions - at almost the diffraction limit - not commonly achievable. With this new-found ability, he has proceeded to videotape, night and day, many strange and heretofore unseen objects in earth orbit. -
- by Jeff Rense, Dec 12, 2007 -

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/gov_involvement.htm​

 

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[SIZE=+3]Professional Skeptics Group Proves UFOs Real![/SIZE]
by Michael Horn
(Posted here by Wes Penre, June 12, 2005)​

http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/group-proves-ufos-real.htm

 

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Man....you have spammed this forum to oblivion.