Secret of Space: Nasa 's biggest secret

[Zzarchov]

Thank you AmberEyes i am aware of this site and other also, do you honesty think that these top scientists and NASA people would tell you the TRUTH

Why wouldn't they? NASA is an open agency. Any scientist would drool for the eternal fame of discovering extraterrestrial life. They have nothing to gain from hiding it and everything to lose.

There isn't a dispute over who invented the telephone because scientists keep pretending they didn't invent it, there is a dispute over many people all claiming they invented it.

Why can you not trust NASA?

have you heard of MAJESTIC 12 ???? i doubt it

Yes, its commonly known group up there with the illuminati and other secret societies. Thus far there doesn't seem to be any proof though that it has any real impact. I have no doubt some government agencies were made to study the phenomenon. Government agencies also studied magic, the hollow earth theory etc. It doesn't mean they control anything.

i cold post quit a few defiant sites that prove ,some things Ive said in my posts some agree some don't ,overwhelming evidence for aliens and UFOs have been documented and under the freedom of information act we can now read some of the past records , but do you think that highly classified info would be allowed to be published ...i doubt it ,

Why do you doubt it, Whats the purpose of this cover up?

so we have to rely on other sources that will be discredited as nut jobs , because that's the way they can suppress the things being told to you ...!!!!

Your logic doesn't follow, because you have suspicion of one source, you must automatically trust all opposing sources?

What if both sides are lying?


Just because someone is hiding something, doesn't mean people who oppose them don't lie (for attention or some money), or know in any way what they are talking about.

 

[quandary121]

Ok, so who are these whistleblowers, why is there no actual proof released?

It takes about 20 minutes to type up "official documents", I can do it. So how come no actual proof has been whistleblown?

There is simply no proof I've seen yet that passes a basic test of credibility. Please feel free to post some though, as well as why you think its credible, why you think its not credible, and why you think that their is more evidence of it being credible than not.

You really need to have an open mind before you start a real debate.

You are very close minded, you need to be willing to accept you may be wrong, listen to countering evidence, refute it with your own evidence etc.

It takes about 20 minutes to type up "official documents", I can do it. So how come no actual proof has been whistleblown?

Ministry of Defence releases further UFO files

14 May 08

The first in a series of Ministry of Defence UFO files, dating back to the 1970s, have been released on The National Archives' website today, Wednesday 14 May 2008.


Drawing from UFO sighting submitted by a UK resident
[Picture: via MOD]

The files include descriptions of alleged Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon or "UFO" sightings and subsequent MOD evaluations of the reports.
The MOD receives a large number of requests each year for information relating to UFOs, and so has introduced a system to meet this demand by releasing these historic files in a structured way.

The released files can be seen on The National Archives' website, see Related Links >>> The files will be available to download free for the first month, after which The National Archives will charge for them.
The rest of the files are currently under review and will be added to The National Archives over the next three years.

To date, independent experts have concluded that there are straightforward explanations behind alleged UFO reports, such as aircraft lights or natural phenomena.



Reports of UFOs are examined by the Ministry of Defence solely to establish whether UK airspace may have been compromised by hostile or unauthorised military activity.
If required, sighting reports are examined with the assistance of the Department's air defence experts. Unless there is evidence of a potential threat, no further work is undertaken to identify the nature of each sighting reported.
The Ministry of Defence has no other interest or role regarding UFO matters and does not consider questions regarding the existence or otherwise of extraterrestrial life-forms.
The MOD now routinely releases information on reported UFO sightings. This information can be found on the MOD website, through our Freedom Of Information Publication Scheme.

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/D.../MinistryOfDefenceReleasesFurtherUfoFiles.htm

There is simply no proof I've seen yet that passes a basic test of credibility

did you see the very first post in this thread or did you just scroll down to the bottom to see if there were any dissenting remarks ....???

LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE POSTED MATEY
Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p1]

Quote: Creatures in space
Space Serpents
NASA Secret Space
Serpents
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Paranormal
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgCXcjDV58

Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p2]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-9zg4_Ql-78

Secret of Space: NASA 's biggest secret [p3]
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPzqOKsZww

in its entirety if so look at

nasa secret photo album (Real Deal)
Photos from nasa employees
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y806FEa8AJQ

DEBATE WITH ME WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IF YOU CAN.....!!!!!!!

You really need to have an open mind before you start a real debate.

I do have an open mind and it aint closed to the things which people post ive a lot of respect for people if they too show some first...!!!!

You are very close minded, you need to be willing to accept you may be wrong, listen to countering evidence, refute it with your own evidence

what like going out and catching a f***king alien taking pictures of it and posting them or flying up into space to take pics get real

 

[Zzarchov]

Lets looks at this link

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y806FEa8AJQ


I see a guy with the photo technology of a printer and photoshop.

Some nice low level props.


No actual proof. I mean seriously "Look at these photos I have!" ,

Here, look at this photo I have a prehistoric planet that looks more realistic

Look, its a photo of a starship!

 

[quandary121]

Why wouldn't they? NASA is an open agency. Any scientist would drool for the eternal fame of discovering extraterrestrial life. They have nothing to gain from hiding it and everything to lose.

There isn't a dispute over who invented the telephone because scientists keep pretending they didn't invent it, there is a dispute over many people all claiming they invented it.

Why can you not trust NASA?



Yes, its commonly known group up there with the illuminati and other secret societies. Thus far there doesn't seem to be any proof though that it has any real impact. I have no doubt some government agencies were made to study the phenomenon. Government agencies also studied magic, the hollow earth theory etc. It doesn't mean they control anything.



Why do you doubt it, Whats the purpose of this cover up?




Your logic doesn't follow, because you have suspicion of one source, you must automatically trust all opposing sources?

What if both sides are lying?


Just because someone is hiding something, doesn't mean people who oppose them don't lie (for attention or some money), or know in any way what they are talking about.

Why wouldn't they? NASA is an open agency
NO it aint its never has been ,,,it was said it faked moon landing photos , and countless other things

Any scientist would drool for the eternal fame of discovering extraterrestrial life. They have nothing to gain from hiding it and everything to lose.

AREA 51 AND ROSWELL COME TO MIND AND THE FACT THAT TO THIS DAY THERE IS A 200 MILE LIMIT AROUND THE BASE...??
HAVE YOU HEARD OF BACK ENGINEERING OR NOT...!!!!

Yes, its commonly known group up there with the illuminati and other secret societies

NASA is apart of the Illuminati another fact you are unaware of

I have no doubt some government agencies were made to study the phenomenon. Government agencies also studied magic, the hollow earth theory etc. It doesn't mean they control anything.

because you have been kept in ignorance haven't you ,media controlled and told to do your 9-5 job, look after your family and not to worry ,drink your poisonous fluoridated water eat Aspartame in you food ,don't worry they are taking good care of you mate, you can be sure of that

 

[Zzarchov]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgCXcjDV58


Also good, sees any number of blurs from bacteria in the actual camera to space debris.

The "host" also doesn't understand that UFO's in orbit usually means just that UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT. Which is almost always code for, "hey look, there is another spy satellite or debris from one we shot down"

 

[quandary121]

Lets looks at this link

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y806FEa8AJQ


I see a guy with the photo technology of a printer and photoshop.

Some nice low level props.


No actual proof. I mean seriously "Look at these photos I have!" ,

Here, look at this photo I have a prehistoric planet that looks more realistic

Look, its a photo of a starship!

this is so obvious fake

The reptilians are always the hardest for anyone to believe. So why do so many people now believe them to exist?
On the walls of the Temple of Hathor in Egypt is some very interesting carvings of strange reptilian beings and a story of how they invaded Earth and genetically modified Human DNA.
Could this be the earths actual History, As we seam to put history as we have seen it from similar carvings that have been found. So are these carvings that date back from the middle kingdom c.2250 BC any different?
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[Zzarchov]

Again,

People say "NASA fakes this and that", that isn't proof of any kind. I mean, jeez, you really need to be open minded.

If you cannot admit you could be wrong, you cannot debate.

I will say thing "I could be wrong about Alien contact, should proof be shown to me"

Now I want you to say the same thing, and mean it, accept that you could be wrong or don't claim you want a debate.

You just want a close minded arguement.

 

[Zzarchov]

this is so obvious fake

Exactly, and yet its photo quality is less fake the ones being shown as true, which had a myriad of problems that showcase bad photo editing, as well as the use of models.

 

[Zzarchov]

Side side note:


Your entire debate is just slandering other people. You just insult people who work at NASA with no proof or credence. I know people who have worked with NASA.

You look at their work and say "You are a liar" not because they have anything that is wrong, but because you consider that they would lie if they really did no anything.

Its asking them to prove a negative , if they say "I am not a liar" You just say "Thats what a liar would say!"

Your whole arguement is based on groundless slander.

 

[quandary121]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kKgCXcjDV58


Also good, sees any number of blurs from bacteria in the actual camera to space debris.

The "host" also doesn't understand that UFO's in orbit usually means just that UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT. Which is almost always code for, "hey look, there is another spy satellite or debris from one we shot down"

Also good, sees any number of blurs from bacteria in the actual camera to space debris.

just goes to show how much you don't wish to see the truth you have already decided that they don't exist so now you are trying to disprove actual NASA footage incredible, what will it take

this looks real but is fake as if you Google the letters on the edge of of it you will find that the same letters appear on a dollar coin so in conclusion a fake..

this I'm unsure of but doubt it is fake

this too i doubt is fake but others have said its from an alien autopsy video ,i said it was a different alien then the one they were referring too

 

[quandary121]

Side side note:


Your entire debate is just slandering other people. You just insult people who work at NASA with no proof or credence. I know people who have worked with NASA.

You look at their work and say "You are a liar" not because they have anything that is wrong, but because you consider that they would lie if they really did no anything.

Its asking them to prove a negative , if they say "I am not a liar" You just say "Thats what a liar would say!"

Your whole arguement is based on groundless slander.

Your entire debate is just slandering other people. You just insult people who work at NASA with no proof or credence

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No it is not just cos you had a pal that worked in NASA proves WHAT exactly many people who work there have talked and been hushed up, i don't say they are all in on it but you can be certain the higher members masons probably are like most of the governmental powers in your country and mine

Its asking them to prove a negative , if they say "I am not a liar" You just say "Thats what a liar would say!"

Your whole arguement is based on groundless slander

really
Mars Former NASA Nazi and other intelligence

Our government including NASA is holding the biggest secrets of the century. Is their purpose devious? Why would they not tell the public about Aliens, UFO's and life on Mars? They LIE, LIE, LIE and tell more LIES.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OI1N0oSmT0I

Moon Structures Obsolete UPDATED see Text

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwumzz... Is the correction. copy address paste into browser.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bfvdqK4YIpA

 

[quandary121]

Buzz Lies.

Buzz Aldrin is now lying for NASA completely

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukp7azF6wGo

 

[quandary121]

News; ET confirmed in NASA control room on Screen and Crew

This is the final (willing or not) say about ET existence in the Universe. No more lies or speculations. NASA control room with big screen and Crew of Shuttle Discovery confirms what's real. These historical words; "...Houston, this is Discovery, we still have the ALIEN SPACECRAFT under observance..." are unrevealing more than 50 years of lies and deceiving. NASA and SETI have nothing to look for anymore. There are many Intelligences present in the Universe and more than one in our Solar System alone (we are plus the others). Close this chapter. Go for real scientific study on this subject by WHOLE WORLD SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. Inquisition died hundreds of years ago; THERE IS NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF ANYMORE.

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Music-part of title "Rainy Ballad" performed and composed by Copernicus2 in 2005 year

Dedicated to all believing in ET
WE ARE NOT ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE ANYMORE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Zj_hrB_l8

 

[quandary121]

The.Pictures.We.Were.Never.Suppose.To.See

Just a few pictures i had collecting dust on my computer, Thanks to a good friend, He showed me how to make a vid. Shots of mars. The red planet with no secrets?

Nasa: Hey but dont worry about them. They are just rocks!
And ermmmm, Photo shop editings, *cough*

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F8UV23e1Tnw

 

[mabudon]

I wanna get me one of them space snakes, sounds like fun.

Is this "quandray" thing just some 'bot or what??

Calling out Dexter Sinister (who, tho I have not had much contact with, is a SHARP dude, despite my disagreeing with him) with that BS on the last page is just ridiculous.

I think someone needs a cap put on their posts, someone who begins with "Q"

 

[quandary121]

Mars Civilization:Evidence By European Space Agency
The European Space Agency has leaked evidence clearly showing civilization on planet Mars.This video will show you the evidence,as well as how you can download it and judge for yourself.
Also this Video shows a new Head Monument that has been recently identified on the Maritian surface.
This is not a hoax.

Download the evidence from here:

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/m...

For a CloseUp Photo of the Evidence discussed in this video please click on the following link :

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii...


What appears to be an ancient Hindu Swastika is visible amongst the structures; for a close-up view please use the following web
link:

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii...


For a written report on the evidence presented in this video please click on
the link below :

http://marsanomalyresearch.com/eviden...


For those viewers who tend to doubt the legitimacy of
this Evidence, please click on the following link for
a summary of the arguments in it's favor:

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii...


Thank You For Your Time,
SDR.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qcR7VX-FwDY

 

[quandary121]

http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/marsexpress/137-021104-0533-6-3d2-01-HaleCrater_H.jpg
i think this is the picture the guy is talking about in

Mars Civilization:Evidence By European Space Agency
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qcR7VX-FwDY

 

[quandary121]

I wanna get me one of them space snakes, sounds like fun.

Is this "quandray" thing just some 'bot or what??

Calling out Dexter Sinister (who, tho I have not had much contact with, is a SHARP dude, despite my disagreeing with him) with that BS on the last page is just ridiculous.

I think someone needs a cap put on their posts, someone who begins with "Q"

I think someone needs a cap put on their posts, someone who begins with "Q"

errr what you on about

Calling out Dexter Sinister

he don't scare me he's just a sour old fool ,he hasn't shown me any proof of his supposed wisdom

 

[quandary121]

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/...=view&current=2P171912249EFFAAL4P2425R1M1.jpg
human type skull in bottom left of photo

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2006/102/mars-humanoid-skull.htm

 

[missile]

The real big secret are the hot and horny women of Venus:lol: