Russia-U.S. "Relations" & Maneuverings

Twin_Moose

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To the Oprah?

Just announced a woman arrested in the States for infiltrating a Political party for distributing misinformation for Russia.
 

Ocean Breeze

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He just threw America/ and its citizens under the bus. He denounced the great American institution the law, and appeased Putin . Beyond embarrassing. It is the core of his ineffectiveness a leader ......HE IS NOT FIT FOR THE ROLE he never was.

A case can be made for treason.....

the Republicans AND Democrats across the board......denounce his conduct. (as they should) He just demonstrate the worst judgement possible.

Putin is laughing all the way back to Russia as he basks in Two incredible wins. The success of the games and now out maneuvering Trump..........which was kids play for him

Seems that Trump also missed the point when Putin threw the soccer ball to Trump............
 

Twin_Moose

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So you know what was said behind the closed doors? Yes he side stepped the question and blamed both sides but why? Does Russia have as much proof of American interference in their recent election? Did they agree to a joint investigation? For both Countries? What concessions did Trump get that he tred lightly in public? We don't know and won't know for a few days, he wasn't alone in the meeting so it will come out.
 

Ocean Breeze

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a free pass
He gave him a free pass on al l of Putin's bad behavior. He took Putin's' word over his own intelligence results......... He gave Putin a new sanding on the world stage........while blaming his own country

He ave Putin his tacit approval for al of Putin's criminal behavior.......(invasions etc)

The world reaction is unanimous........in condemnation of what Trump did.

The problem too, is that Trump has no clue as to the seriousness of what he has done....and the rippled effect. Also he does NOT CARE........ and that is where his mental state comes in. Only a sociopath would breve this way........and not be bothered as to how he is affecting others.This entire trip has been one major disaster.
 

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Is THAT what you want?? How many would have to die to achieve this??
It's coming whether or not you or I want it or don't.

It won't be Russia or the US throwing the first punch and it's going to put India and Pakistan into a full on fight too.

While you are whining about Trump and distracted, dozens of other nations have been digging in and getting ready.

Do you think we should stand by and let China take Taiwan?
 

Twin_Moose

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He gave him a free pass on al l of Putin's bad behavior. He took Putin's' word over his own intelligence results......... He gave Putin a new sanding on the world stage........while blaming his own country

He ave Putin his tacit approval for al of Putin's criminal behavior.......(invasions etc)

The world reaction is unanimous........in condemnation of what Trump did.

The problem too, is that Trump has no clue as to the seriousness of what he has done....and the rippled effect. Also he does NOT CARE........ and that is where his mental state comes in. Only a sociopath would breve this way........and not be bothered as to how he is affecting others.This entire trip has been one major disaster.

So you got all of this from Trump's sidestepped question that Putin stated in his answer with we discussed it?

Did you watch the press briefing or are you going by headlines? I watched the briefing
 

Ocean Breeze

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So you know what was said behind the closed doors? Yes he side stepped the question and blamed both sides but why? Does Russia have as much proof of American interference in their recent election? Did they agree to a joint investigation? For both Countries? What concessions did Trump get that he tred lightly in public? We don't know and won't know for a few days, he wasn't alone in the meeting so it will come out.
What was said in that secret meeting is not relevant. There were NO witnesses , so it is nothing more than he said he said .

Not even relevant now. as it broke protocol...... so they might as well have been talking about fishing
 

Twin_Moose

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What was said in that secret meeting is not relevant. There were NO witnesses , so it is nothing more than he said he said .

Not even relevant now. as it broke protocol...... so they might as well have been talking about fishing

first part was the second part wasn't

The U.S. delegation
present at the working lunch with Mr. Trump included U.S. Ambassador to Russia Jon Huntsman, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Chief of Staff John Kelly, National Security Adviser John Bolton and National Security Council adviser Fiona Hill.
 
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Ocean Breeze

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It's coming whether or not you or I want it or don't.

It won't be Russia or the US throwing the first punch and it's going to put India and Pakistan into a full on fight too.

While you are whining about Trump and distracted, dozens of other nations have been digging in and getting ready.

Do you think we should stand by and let China take Taiwan?
Yes.....the world dynamic is quickly changing.Power shifting is happening in subtle and obvious ways now.
With Trump denouncing the allies and aligning himself with Putin........Europe is realizing it cannot trsust the US anymore..... and new alliances might begin to form. ..excluding the US. A major reevaluation of the US is taking place.America stands to lose the most.

Trump has been played by a professional.....and shown the world his vulnerabilities.......
 
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Walter

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Yes.....the world dynamic is quickly changing.Power shifting is happening in subtle and obvious ways now.
With Trump denouncing the allies and aligning himself with Putin........Europe is realizing it cannot trsust the US anymore..... and new alliances might begin to form. ..excluding the US. A major reevaluation of the US is taking place.America stands to lose the most.

Trump has been played by a professional.....and shown the world his vulnerabilities.......
Apropos again.