Colpy said:
Well you know I'd never actually do something silly like that, but I just wondered if anyone else thought it was "attacking people, and not an ideal" <------- reason for me being banned
Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
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Well you know I'd never actually do something silly like that, but I just wondered if anyone else thought it was "attacking people, and not an ideal" <------- reason for me being banned
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
Sure... Can I have it back now?
Jay said:
Sure... Can I have it back now?
Jay said:
Yes, me and the rest of the tax payers. Where the hell do you think that the money comes from?
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
Nope. Not until you have a baby.
I don't get it, my dauther is 8.
LittleRunningGag said:
Nope. Not until you have a baby.
I don't get it, my dauther is 8.
I don't want to sound selfish, but could someone please explain why it is that I should be paying for peoples' child care? Honestly, I don't have a problem helping to pay for schooling because that helps us all. A well educated population is better for everyone.
I'm not, however, entirely sure how your childcare is in any way my responsibility.
I'm not, however, entirely sure how your childcare is in any way my responsibility.
I agree with the above. I must have missed the debate in Parliament about the need to subsidize children.There was much talk about how to do it. I think the conservatives countered the libs buffoonery with thier own payout. Sad.
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
Why should I pay for your broken leg? It's not like I broke it or anything. I'm not sure why your health problems are my responsibility.
LittleRunningGag said:
Why should I pay for your broken leg? It's not like I broke it or anything. I'm not sure why your health problems are my responsibility.
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
It isn't really your problem is it? The difference, however, is that you choose to have children, it isn't often that a person chooses to have their leg broken. And if they do intentionally break their leg, I don't think that I should have to pay for that either.
Said1 said:
It isn't really your problem is it? The difference, however, is that you choose to have children, it isn't often that a person chooses to have their leg broken. And if they do intentionally break their leg, I don't think that I should have to pay for that either.
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
If that is the goal, we should be subsidising private day care, and day homes. Or we should be paying women to put their kids into day care. Giving a cheque to parents for having children doesn't necessarily accomplish that goal.
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I don't advocate publicly sponsored child care either. Just pointing out the flaw in your argument.
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Kreskin said:
If that is the goal, we should be subsidising private day care, and day homes. Or we should be paying women to put their kids into day care. Giving a cheque to parents for having children doesn't necessarily accomplish that goal.
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I don't advocate publicly sponsored child care either. Just pointing out the flaw in your argument.
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The latest SES sun Media poll has 1.3% of Canadians upset with the Conservative Child Care policy. This is an unprompted poll that doesn't give options but asks adults to list what they like or don't like about government policy. Things like too close to U.S. foreign policy come in at 18%.
Child Care, like AIDS, Kyoto, etc. are niche topics when it comes to priorities for Canadians. Canadians will vote on the integrity of the government, the economy and so on. Political parties that pander to special interest groups probably already have those votes and spend their time spinning their wheels in oblivion (such as the NDP that hasn't even formed the opposition after 18 federal elections and is a distant 4th in the House of commons for the last couple decades.)
Child Care, like AIDS, Kyoto, etc. are niche topics when it comes to priorities for Canadians. Canadians will vote on the integrity of the government, the economy and so on. Political parties that pander to special interest groups probably already have those votes and spend their time spinning their wheels in oblivion (such as the NDP that hasn't even formed the opposition after 18 federal elections and is a distant 4th in the House of commons for the last couple decades.)
If childcare is to receive more funding then I want a meaningful say in how those kids are raised. My money, my time, my say. I'm very unhappy with the job most parents are doing and I can't think of anything less responsible than offering more dollars to the incompetent.
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
WOW!
If you want to see incompetent, let the bloody government take over!
Personally, I would certainly rather see parents raise their kids than let the gov't do it!
tamarin said:
WOW!
If you want to see incompetent, let the bloody government take over!
Personally, I would certainly rather see parents raise their kids than let the gov't do it!
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
Of course no one choses to break their leg, but why should I have to help pay for someone's medical treatment in your province? Is it federal money being used for this purpose that you have a problem with, or just the idea of subsidies in general, regardless of their nature being give for childcare? Both, right?
LittleRunningGag said:
Of course no one choses to break their leg, but why should I have to help pay for someone's medical treatment in your province? Is it federal money being used for this purpose that you have a problem with, or just the idea of subsidies in general, regardless of their nature being give for childcare? Both, right?
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
Good idea. Open a daycare centre or after school progam for your community's youth.
tamarin said:
Good idea. Open a daycare centre or after school progam for your community's youth.
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
These do exist, the problem is there isn't enough spots or people willing to do it, espeically for school aged children. Not enough money and they take up a full spot.
LittleRunningGag said:
These do exist, the problem is there isn't enough spots or people willing to do it, espeically for school aged children. Not enough money and they take up a full spot.
Re: RE: Right Wing nutjobs getting involved in Child Care
In principle I agree with you. If I'm going to pay for someone else's childbearing choices then do I also get a say in whether or not they are allowed to breed? In reality, however, best if the governmnet butts out of deciding who has kids and paying for raising those kids after the fact. Quality eduation and health education I have no probelm with...beyond that it fosters irresponsibility. Much less expensive to fund free condom distribution and free volunteer sterilization.
tamarin said:
In principle I agree with you. If I'm going to pay for someone else's childbearing choices then do I also get a say in whether or not they are allowed to breed? In reality, however, best if the governmnet butts out of deciding who has kids and paying for raising those kids after the fact. Quality eduation and health education I have no probelm with...beyond that it fosters irresponsibility. Much less expensive to fund free condom distribution and free volunteer sterilization.
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What if, best planning aside, financial circumstances change, leaving the costs of childcare out of reach for some. What is the better option, temporary help with childcare until circumstances improve, or welfare?
What if, best planning aside, financial circumstances change, leaving the costs of childcare out of reach for some. What is the better option, temporary help with childcare until circumstances improve, or welfare?