I love threads like this ....it smokes out thr religous nuts......so I add to my ignore list hmmm ...darn more christains again? Darn this list is getting long:angry3:
Good luck with that......
I love threads like this ....it smokes out thr religous nuts......so I add to my ignore list hmmm ...darn more christains again? Darn this list is getting long:angry3:
The Bible? That is nothing more than a propaganda guide created by the Jews to hold sway over their own people. It took advantage of the fears Humanity had in those days. We are an advanced race today. It is time to burn the Bible as it no longer serves any purpose. We are no longer in the dark as we were 2000 years ago. Get a grip people. The Bible is nothing more than a collection of fables used to instill fear in your own fear of the unknown. It was used to garner your obedience, nothing more.
Although, I don't agree with Saint Lucifer and his particular way of putting things, I do think that bible is a book that should be open to criticism and debate. There are great number of...oddities...in the bible...and I can't say I know the bible all that well...but much of what I know I am very skeptical about.Tell me about Lucifer? Why a Saint? And what does he have to do with the bible? If you are going to stand by his name, then you must declare who he is in comparison to Jesus.
In order to argue against who the bible is all about (Jesus) then you must know all about it in order to give a good argument against it.
A verse: Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Peace>>>AJ:love9:
What wonderful advice! I might suggest that you start doing so as soon as possible;-)There are a number of very good and reliable Bible sites online I could give you the URL's for to start studying the Bible if you're interested!In order to argue against who the bible is all about (Jesus) then you must know all about it in order to give a good argument against it.
.... the first beast (the Papacy),
..... civil liberty (NO KING) and religious liberty (NO POPE)
A tempered conscience only, formed this way by the Holy Spirit. That leaves many who's conscience needs work first, THEN, choosing an appropriate worship comes next. A properly formed conscience can only lead to the true Church. If one isn't there, it is an indicator his conscience needs work. This statement is too broad and all encompassing to be taken seriously.Early Americans made clear statements about the separation of church and state. GEORGE WASHINGTON in 1789 said, "Every man conducting himself as a good citizen and being accountable to God, alone, for his religious options, ought to be protected in worshipping the deity according to the dictates of his own conscience."
This statement is really evidence that he assumes all churches are institutions established by men. A Church established by God, evidence one that would be Apostolic, would need no support from civil power, in fact the errors made by the civil power would be an indicator of it's non-conformance to the dictates of God's Church. If every civil power were to rise up against God's Church, then that would be to no avail. If every person were to vanish on earth, God's Church would still exist. The Church dies when God says it does. Good Ole' Ben was good at what he did, but it would seem knowing when to leave it to those who's job it is to know, the ministers of the true Church, wasn't one of his strong points.BENJAMIN FRANKLIN said this, "When religion is good, it will take care of itself. When it's not able to take care of itself, and God does not see fit to take care of it, so that it has to appeal to the civil power for support,...
It would appear he lived up to his advice. His command to Sherman to raise, slaughter and to pillage every by now helpless Southern Village in their path showed he had free reign to do has he wished. Perish the thought that he should live up to Jesus's commands, for then by them he would learn that the essence of his ministry was mercy.GRANT "Keep the church and state forever separated."
The contradiction is what separates us by the grace of God. If one Church is true, then the other cannot be if they differ in doctrine. We all wish the flock will one day return, but until then it is only a desire.love of the Truth - the Word of God that unites us (whether Catholic or Protestant) - doctrine DOES matter.
Not as implied yet to be made, but headed for realization of it's existance. The "Religion" replaced all others 2000 years ago and has been alive vibrant and healthy since then. The Church is there for everyone to see, and one day some will be held to account why they refused to benefit from it's fruits. The "Greatest Empire" is slowly detaching itself from submission to God, and is slowly making itself at par with God with it's decadence and devalueing of life. You reference scripture, but I see the symtoms differently. Sirach 10,5 directly places "the sovereignty of man in the hands of God, who imparts his majesty to the ruler". So there is no seperation of Church and State, has God would not have bonded us two entities into one bound to one common Godly law.The Bible says, we are headed for a one-world religion.
Although, I don't agree with Saint Lucifer and his particular way of putting things, I do think that bible is a book that should be open to criticism and debate. There are great number of...oddities...in the bible...and I can't say I know the bible all that well...but much of what I know I am very skeptical about.
I tend to agree with that statement in that the conscience is the seed planted in every soul that breaks the womb. The conscience properly addressed will identify itself with the granter of it.A tempered conscience only, formed this way by the Holy Spirit. That leaves many who's conscience needs work first, THEN, choosing an appropriate worship comes next. A properly formed conscience can only lead to the true Church. If one isn't there, it is an indicator his conscience needs work. This statement is too broad and all encompassing to be taken seriously.>>>AndyF