Racism spreading to the left?

[ironsides]

''Racism is not the domain of left or right it is just there. Sometimes something is
labelled racism when it is something else.''

That's true. But for some reason the right likes to accuse libs of being the only ones who play the race when it is they who do it more often and they hate it when this is pointed out. For example, I've come across numerous websites where the right repeatedly accuses libs of being racist. Yet, when libs ask, where were you when the Tea Baggers created thousands of racist anti-Obama placards (many of which were posted on this forum) - those same right wingers, who initially were so enthused about the TB's, go silent.

The Libs do play the race card and resort to cursing when they cannot get their way in a conversation. They get frustrated and break so easily, it is fun to toy with them. As for "Tea Baggers", they have been nothing respectful to President Obama, they don't have to use the race card.

 

[YukonJack]

Cliffy and mentalfloss, you really outdid yourselves with your pithy replies to my post #32.

Well, at least you did not call me racist, as your ilk usually does in face of facts.

Ponder on the following:

“The most pathetic thing is for a slave who doesn’t know that he is a slave.” —-Malcolm X

Thanks for the -1 mentalfloss!

Coming from you it is, indeed, the highest honour and proof that you are intellectually crippled and incapable to debate what I said. Cuddle up to Cliffy for doubling your intellect but keep in mind that twice zero is still zero.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I think it's the guys who say., "The Chinks are taking our jobs." that are racist.

I wonder if this will get edited or clipped without the censor understanding the context of the statement?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

 

[Durry]

I think the only time you can call one racist is when he is making a statement or saying something with the express desire to demean someone of a different race.
Commenting on someones behavior or act is not necessary racist unless it is willfully done to demean someone.

Too often the term racist is used just to shut someone up who is making a comment on someone from a different race.
This means people of different race's can also be racists against the whites..

 

[Cliffy]

Cliffy and mentalfloss, you really outdid yourselves with your pithy replies to my post #32.

Well, at least you did not call me racist, as your ilk usually does in face of facts.

Ponder on the following:

“The most pathetic thing is for a slave who doesn’t know that he is a slave.” —-Malcolm X

Thanks for the -1 mentalfloss!

Coming from you it is, indeed, the highest honour and proof that you are intellectually crippled and incapable to debate what I said. Cuddle up to Cliffy for doubling your intellect but keep in mind that twice zero is still zero.

Nice try at deflection, but the fact remains that your remarks regarding Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and all are decidedly racist because, As Durry said, "I think the only time you can call one racist is when he is making a statement or saying something with the express desire to demean someone of a different race". And you fit that bill with your constant demeaning of people of African American decent.You can rail against being called racist all you want but you words continue to expose you for what you are.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Nice try at deflection, but the fact remains that your remarks regarding Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and all are decidedly racist because, As Durry said, "I think the only time you can call one racist is when he is making a statement or saying something with the express desire to demean someone of a different race". And you fit that bill with your constant demeaning of people of African American decent.You can rail against being called racist all you want but you words continue to expose you for what you are.

Sharpton and Jackson are racist. I don't think Obama is, but I've heard statements from both these men that would earn them that title. I think it was Jackson that said something like "Obama was too white to be President."

Not knowing the what you are referring to with YJ all I can say is you don't need to be white to be racist and criticizing someone does not make you a racist even if they are Black or Hispanic or even White.

 

[YukonJack]

Nice try at deflection, but the fact remains that your remarks regarding Obama, Sharpton, Jackson, and all are decidedly racist because, As Durry said, "I think the only time you can call one racist is when he is making a statement or saying something with the express desire to demean someone of a different race". And you fit that bill with your constant demeaning of people of African American decent.You can rail against being called racist all you want but you words continue to expose you for what you are.

Cliffy, I have nothing but the greatest admiration for any number of people of African American descent, be they in the fields of arts, politics, science, journalism or the military. Examples? How about Justice Clarance Thomas? Colin Powell? Condy Rice? Herman Cain? Morgan Freeman? Oprah Winfrey? Michael Steele? Star Parker? Juan Williams? Denzel Washington? Thomas Sowell? Armstrong Williams? Lincoln Alexander? Allan West?

Need more?

Also I believe that deeds speak stronger than words. I devoted two weeks of my six weeks vacation time doing volunteer work with Habitat for Humanity, between 1993 and the time my health prevented me from continuing. Just for curiosity, what have you ever done for black people beside your pompous pretensions? Most of the houses I helped to build were for blacks. The others were for Latinoes. I spent an entire week doing it Overtown. Do you even know where that is? You have a nerve to call me racist!

I berate, denigrate, demean and disrespect Sharpton, Jackson, Ferrakhan and all their worthless clones, because they are nothing but punks and free-loaders and pimps. Nothing they have done ever resulted in the betterment of their fellow African-Americans. The only benefit these cancerous warts on humanity ever achieved was for their own pocketbooks.

You and your ilk give up any semblence of decency for political correctness. Congratulations, you earn, time after time, the uncontested title of HYPOCRITE, far more than I do racist.

 

[Cliffy]

Sharpton and Jackson are racist. I don't think Obama is, but I've heard statements from both these men that would earn them that title. I think it was Jackson that said something like "Obama was too white to be President."

Not knowing the what you are referring to with YJ all I can say is you don't need to be white to be racist and criticizing someone does not make you a racist even if they are Black or Hispanic or even White.

I never said those guys weren't racists. As Chris Rock once said, "The most racist people in America are old black men." But by Durry's definition of racist, Jack is a shoe in.

 

[EagleSmack]

Well in 2008 my relative who is a big liberal and Democrat called me up to rub in Obama winning the Presidency by leading off with...

"Ahhh Haaaa... the ni**er won."

I wasn't surprised as the "N" word flowed out of his mouth like the Mississippi all his life...along with how racist conservatives are.

 

[coldstream]

As to the title of this thread. The description of 'Left' used to mean those with sympathies for socialist economic principles. Economic theories have little to do with race.

So essentially we're talking of Racism spreading to the post structural political communities that encompass feminism (with all that that involves), affirmitive action.. and an assumption that our current culture is fundamentally and systemically sexist and racist. To me that political viewpoint has always been far more sexist, racist.. paternalistic and dogmatically antithetical all institutions that formed our culture.. especially religion.. than anything on other side.

There is no one more racist.. than someone who goes around calling everyone else racist.. and demands 'special status'.. 'affirmative action'.. 'quotas'.. for designated 'victims' groups. Look just under surface and you find someone with no respect for individuals of 'inferior' races (or gender) to make it on their own.

The last thing this group wants is a 'colour blind' society with achievement based on merit.

 

[ironsides]

If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist, you'll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not an idiot.

 

[EagleSmack]

Not knowing the what you are referring to with YJ all I can say is you don't need to be white to be racist and criticizing someone does not make you a racist even if they are Black or Hispanic or even White.

Actually, if you listen to racist African-Americans they will tell you blacks can't be racist. It sort of justifies them hating people who have different skin colors.

 

[Cliffy]

Actually, if you listen to racist African-Americans they will tell you blacks can't be racist. It sort of justifies them hating people who have different skin colors.

It's kinda funny because there may be people with different skin colours but there is only one human race. I think the only true racist would have to be of a different species.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Actually, if you listen to racist African-Americans they will tell you blacks can't be racist. It sort of justifies them hating people who have different skin colors.

I wish everyone would just start screwing and be done with it. :lol:

 

[gopher]

''As for "Tea Baggers", they have been nothing respectful to President Obama, they don't have to use the race card.''

But nobody does it more often than they do. And the right does it more than the left.

 

[Machjo]

Thinking back on my thread title, I realise it wasn't so much racism but nationalism that I have seen on the left. I've seen it for years of course, but it's a shame there is no true internationalist party in Canada. The left is just as nationalist as the right. Their nationalisms don't manifest themselves in the same ways of course, but still very present on both sides.

 

[cranky]

I think the reality in Canada is different than the USA, ie I think the left is more racist in Canada. They certainly are more bigoted and prejudicial.

 

[mentalfloss]

I think the reality in Canada is different than the USA, ie I think the left is more racist in Canada. They certainly are more bigoted and prejudicial.

Not if these forums are a microcosm of the real thing.

 

[YukonJack]

''As for "Tea Baggers", they have been nothing respectful to President Obama, they don't have to use the race card.''

But nobody does it more often than they do. And the right does it more than the left.

Calling a person redneck and teabagger is every bit as offensive as calling a person a ni66er. Or a cracker.

Spare me the phony crap about 'historical significance'.

When it comes to racism, nobody does it better than the so-called spokesmen for the black community (a term racist in itself because it assumes that all black people think the same way) like Louis Farakkhan, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton These are of course, along with their white, politically correct enablers like gopher.

If gopher had just one teeny weeny honest bone in his body he would know this.

 

[coldstream]

Thinking back on my thread title, I realise it wasn't so much racism but nationalism that I have seen on the left. I've seen it for years of course, but it's a shame there is no true internationalist party in Canada. The left is just as nationalist as the right. Their nationalisms don't manifest themselves in the same ways of course, but still very present on both sides.

You've got to be kiddin Machjo. You cannot find a government more disdainful of nationalism, in terms of economic sovereignty and cultural integrity than that of Stephen Harper.. unless it was that of Jean Chretien or Brian Mulroney. These three sorcerers of the POST national ethos.. beholden to supranational institutions like the IMF, World Bank, WTO.. grovelling before the Global Investment Organism are ALL we have had for the last quarter century. Weaklings all, pygmies, quislings before the juggernaut of international trade and finance.