Public School's Decision To Ban Gideon Bibles Met With Anger

Machjo

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No, all I am saying is that the Koran/Quoran should have the the same kind of reception in Canada/USA or for that matter any civilized Western countries as the Bible gets in any of the countries I mentioned in my post.

Why? My point was that not all Muslims are Middle-Eastern as you seem to be suggesting. Are you blaming First Nations Muslims for the actions of governments abroad?

And what about First-Nations Baha'is? Heck, baha'is are persecuted in their own country of origin, so they're not the ones banning Bibles there.

And though I've never met First Nations Buddhist or Hindus, it's always possible they exist. And is India banning the Bible?

Then Christianity should have stayed where it began in the first place instead of being inflicted upon people all over the planet.

But the imposition of "Christianity" in the residential schools was for their own good! If they won't see the truth on their own, we need to use some, let's say, more forceful tactics, no? (Note sarcasm).
 

Niflmir

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Why? My point was that not all Muslims are Middle-Eastern as you seem to be suggesting. Are you blaming First Nations Muslims for the actions of governments abroad?
And what about First-Nations Baha'is? Heck, baha'is are persecuted in their own country of origin, so they're not the ones banning Bibles there.
And though I've never met First Nations Buddhist or Hindus, it's always possible they exist. And is India banning the Bible?
But the imposition of "Christianity" in the residential schools was for their own good! If they won't see the truth on their own, we need to use some, let's say, more forceful tactics, no? (Note sarcasm).

Actually, India is really cool when it comes to religion.

Basically the Hindus believe that all religions are just different emanations of Brahman, so they basically believe that all religions are just as correct as any other.
 

Gavin Morgan

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Why? What makes Christianity more important than anyn other religion? Especially to people of other religions? Why would a Hindu, for instance, place more inportance on Christianity than their own religion?

How would you know?

lol How about you take your Christianity back to the middle east where it started, too?


OK, let's go through this point by point:

Christianity is more important than any other religion is because all of the founders of the two great countries (United States and Canada) and even the the not so great countries like the ones in Hispanic Central America) were CHRISTIANS. You would be hard pressed to show a single Muslim or Hindu to have contributed to what we see as our countries today.

Basically all religions (with the exception of Hinduism and Buddhism) started in the Middle East.

Some matured enough to step in to the 21st century.

Some fly airplanes that they could never build into buildings they could never build.

OK, you take it from there!
 

Serryah

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OK, let's go through this point by point:

Christianity is more important than any other religion is because all of the founders of the two great countries (United States and Canada) and even the the not so great countries like the ones in Hispanic Central America) were CHRISTIANS. You would be hard pressed to show a single Muslim or Hindu to have contributed to what we see as our countries today.

Basically all religions (with the exception of Hinduism and Buddhism) started in the Middle East.

Some matured enough to step in to the 21st century.

Some fly airplanes that they could never build into buildings they could never build.

OK, you take it from there!


... you can't be serious; please, say you're not serious.
 

L Gilbert

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Actually, India is really cool when it comes to religion.

Basically the Hindus believe that all religions are just different emanations of Brahman, so they basically believe that all religions are just as correct as any other.
Yep. Buddhism is quite accepting, also.

OK, let's go through this point by point:

Christianity is more important than any other religion is because all of the founders of the two great countries (United States and Canada) and even the the not so great countries like the ones in Hispanic Central America) were CHRISTIANS. You would be hard pressed to show a single Muslim or Hindu to have contributed to what we see as our countries today.
lol That just makes it more important to most people in North America. Big deal. That does not make Christianity any more important than any other. Nor any more accurate.

Basically all religions (with the exception of Hinduism and Buddhism) started in the Middle East.
Wrong. They most likely started in southeast Africa along with the rest of modern humanity.

Some matured enough to step in to the 21st century.
And most haven't matured enough to consider the idea that there is no rational basis for the belief in gods.

Some fly airplanes that they could never build into buildings they could never build.
Can you?

OK, you take it from there!
:)

I invoke Poe's law.
lol.

But then you would not be here, would you?
Nope. I'd likely be in Ireland. Makes no difference to me where i live as long as I can live pretty much the way I want.
 

Gavin Morgan

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Yep. Buddhism is quite accepting, also.

lol That just makes it more important to most people in North America. Big deal. That does not make Christianity any more important than any other. Nor any more accurate.

Wrong. They most likely started in southeast Africa along with the rest of modern humanity.

And most haven't matured enough to consider the idea that there is no rational basis for the belief in gods.

Can you?

:)

lol.

Nope. I'd likely be in Ireland. Makes no difference to me where i live as long as I can live pretty much the way I want.
Since we are living in North America, what happened in North America a few hundred years ago, matters. Unless you live in a dreamland.
 

Gavin Morgan

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yes, history matters. But your logic, or rather lack of it, suggesting that religions should be territorial and stick to where they start includes Christianity.

You and your hopeless soul mates still owe world of just ONE SINGLE founder who was a Muslim, a Hindu or anyone, other than a Christian who was instrumental to adopting the Declaration of Independence and/or the Constitution.
 

gerryh

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You and your hopeless soul mates still owe world of just ONE SINGLE founder who was a Muslim, a Hindu or anyone, other than a Christian who was instrumental to adopting the Declaration of Independence and/or the Constitution.


There's one hell of a good reason to be a Muslim or a Hindu..... they had nothing to do with the founding of that war mongering country.
 

L Gilbert

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You and your hopeless soul mates still owe world of just ONE SINGLE founder who was a Muslim, a Hindu or anyone, other than a Christian who was instrumental to adopting the Declaration of Independence and/or the Constitution.
roflmao

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all." Thomas Paine said that.

In the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Article 11, ratified by John Adams' government, that "The government of the U.S.A. is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion"

James Madison stated, "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."Ethan Allen said that he was generally,"denominated a deist, the reality of which, I never disputed, being conscious that I am no Christian".

Ben Franklin said, "As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion...has received various corrupting Changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his Divinity; tho' it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the Truth with less trouble."

Almost all the founding fathers stated that religion play no part in the government of the U.S.A.

There's one hell of a good reason to be a Muslim or a Hindu..... they had nothing to do with the founding of that war mongering country.
Exactly.
 

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I see little point in simply handing out the holy books of various religions to young children. Introducing a comparative study of religions as part of the curriculum might be useful provided you could find teachers impartial enough to teach it fairly. However, this would have to be an option provided at the upper grade levels.
 

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Oh, you mean like the Catholic Schools do?
They were part of a cult that had many similar names. The cross was something to be feared, the reality is the Monks traveled around on boats with soldiers that worked for the Kings and Queens of a handful of Nations that fought wars against each other just as much as they spent killing the locals in the new lands they found. The RCC was never running their own fleets of ships, they certainly didn't balk at the harsh treatment of the 'natives' they encountered., Had that expansion taken place before about 492 AD the process would have been much kinder, perhaps not from the soldiers but the Priests still looked at gentle handling of civilians.

The RCC (in my view) qualifies as the first Church in Revelation. By having a Pope they have left their first love. There are 6 more Churches that have sins that are just as great. The RCC is also big on women not being equal Ministers, the Beloved Disciple is a woman, it is not just the RCC that that knows that but does nothing to rectify it. The RCC is also the only Church big enough to take over the banking so that Gentiles and Jews come under the same banking laws that covered just the Jews in the OT, they alone bear the responsibility for that not being in place since they first started being their own money-changers.

We both still on the same page so far? They are not alone in the Indian School scandal that is still going on but they probably got a large portion of the taxpayer money that was forked over to those schools by a Government that was just as corrupt as the Churches of the time were, and may well be to this very day if all hidden things could get revealed. They have a hard time owning up to their past mistakes, they aren't going to open up about the current ones any easier. We still on the same page for where my RCC hate is at?

I see little point in simply handing out the holy books of various religions to young children. Introducing a comparative study of religions as part of the curriculum might be useful provided you could find teachers impartial enough to teach it fairly. However, this would have to be an option provided at the upper grade levels.
God didn't call John the Baptist or Jesus before they were 30 years old. Getting to know the stories in a general way would be all that is needed before it became a profession. Other that reading and writing being needed by the time you are about 16 the whole education thing could be trimmed down about 80% and national production would not suffer and people would have more time to shop around before choosing a profession that takes 25 of his 45 working years.

Kids lean by watching and eavesdropping on the adults. Adults over 30 generally have the most mature conversations and they are still young enough to be fast learners partly because they want to be where they are.
 

Dexter Sinister

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I remember the Gideons coming into the public school I went to and handing out partial Bibles to everyone in grade 5. It was a small volume, just the New Testament plus the Psalms and Proverbs, not a whole Bible. I still have it, I can see it on the bookshelf from where I'm sitting in my study, right beside the instruction manual for a certain Versalog slide rule, which I also still have, in a nice leather case with a belt loop on it. That's the "don't look at much" shelf. I have no issues with people handing out religious scriptures in schools, in fact I wish I'd been given a Quran and a Book of Mormon at the same time, I'd probably have figured out a lot sooner what preposterous bull**** it all is.
 

Machjo

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OK, let's go through this point by point:

Christianity is more important than any other religion is because all of the founders of the two great countries (United States and Canada) and even the the not so great countries like the ones in Hispanic Central America) were CHRISTIANS. You would be hard pressed to show a single Muslim or Hindu to have contributed to what we see as our countries today.

Basically all religions (with the exception of Hinduism and Buddhism) started in the Middle East.

Some matured enough to step in to the 21st century.

Some fly airplanes that they could never build into buildings they could never build.

OK, you take it from there!

So you're saying that the imperialissts of the last centuries were model "Christians"?

Think about it.
 

taxslave

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There is absolutely no reason why the holy books of religions, other than Christianity should be given the the same ranking as the Holy Bible.
Those who follow those other books/religions are nothing but Johnny-come-latelies who want to harvest the bounty of religious freedom they never planted.
As soon as the Bible gets recognition and merit in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Yemen, Sudan, Algeria, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, Iraq, Bangla Desh, Libya, Nigeria, etc. as the followers of the Koran demand that Western society give their holy book we can talk about equality and fairness.
Until then, go back to any and all the aforementioned countries and shut your mouth.
So your religion is better than everyone elses is it? What about all the religions that were around long before your god was invented?

No, all I am saying is that the Koran/Quoran should have the the same kind of reception in Canada/USA or for that matter any civilized Western countries as the Bible gets in any of the countries I mentioned in my post.
Are you aware that there are more than two religions in the world? Get an education before you make yourself look stupid.