Overrated Songwriters
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I admit that I have a strong bias against hip-hop and rap. In fact I find the noise made by that genre to be the equivalent of fingernails on a blackboard. As a result I find all composers or rap and hip-hop to be vastly overrated. While I am at it I may as well add most composers of country. I find for the most part that much of what is written is so similar that I can't tell one so-called artist from another. I could also say the same about most modern pop and rock composers, except for the fact that I don't actually find them annoying enough to instantly change the station. I just wish they would stop playing some of this crap in malls and other public places.
Well, same old story my other brother Bar, real quality is rare and precious. And it endures. Beatles, Kansas, Golden Earring, CCR, Dire Straits, Outlaws... In every decade there's a handful of really good bands and a million people producing crap that nobody will care about in the long term.
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John Lennon and Roger Waters!!!! Now you are trampling on the sacred! You are just pissed that Lennon was more famous than Jesus. But Waters' "The Wall" was brilliant, the most insightful psychological rock opera ever.
I think this statement sums up this discussion quite well. It has very little to do with genre, except as it applies to specific listeners (I'm with Bar Sinister in that I find most rap, hip-hop,pop & country not to my taste but as far as music types that I do like, most artists are flashes in the pan.
p.s. saying Neil Young, John Lennon and Roger Waters are over-rated is like saying the Michelangelo and van Gogh were OK painters. They may not be/have been great singers but they can write. Its not about lyrics as an essay but rather about sending the idea and emotion of their music to the listener.
You missed out Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Chopin, and Brahms. BTW who was Hugo Wolfe?
Thanks Cliffy for identifying Roger Walters for me.
I'm not pissed but I certainly don't approve of what John Lennon said. The fuller context was "Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn't argue with that; I'm right and I will be proved right. We're more popular than Jesus now". Plus that overrated song "Imagine" where he asks us to imagine a world without heaven. What a horrible concept!
And "The Wall" was cool when I was 14 but it got old fast. I set my album out into the laundry room here at my apartment building. I think some elderly great grandmother took it for here enjoyment.
Pink Floyd did not write music for the hit parade, though many of them made it. We don't need no education rocked the world and forced educators to treat kids like humans. Dark Side of the Moon has been one of the top selling albums of all time and has made the top one hundred list every year for three decades.
Come on you never understood what it was about then and you don't now. It's sad really when the elderly represent the rebellious nature of rock and roll while those 1/3 their age have become so conformist.
Roger Walters! heh heh heh
There are a few real cork sniffers in this thread.
