You didn't mention that. You simply made a blanket statement that following church dogma would eliminate AIDS and it won't. And it doesn't matter whether one ONLY spreads it to their partner.
Orwellian use of language: mom pleads guilty in cult starvation death
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You need to examine how instincts work.
Sex is for procreation and there is no limit to how much sex that requires. This is why our sex drive renews itself so frequently.
Marriage is a man made confinement technology and has no relevance in regard to instinct.
The Church is not advocating the "stopping" of sexuality, but rather restraint and sex with ONLY your spouse.
Now how is that anymore absurd than the idea of handing out condoms to everyone and their dog and then somehow ensuring that they use those condoms for every sexual encounter that they have. Can you please lay out your plan to ensure that this happens.
True.
I can infer then you have never heard of recreational sex? We humans do it for fun as do monkeys and dolphins. That sex is fun and recreational doesn't mean it isn't purposeful.
Studies have been made that indicate that some people are built to be monogamous and some aren't. The church is not picky when indoctrinating people with its dogma. It expects the latter mentioned people to be monogamous. And THAT goes against their nature (instincts). IOW it expects humans to be something other than what they are. And it's all because of church people's interpretation of a ambiguous, vague book based on something that probably doesn't even exist.
But why should the church change it's doctorine because some people "choose" to do things differently. How is it the Churches fault that some "choose" to go against Church Doctorine?
Did she know she was being cruel or was she saving his soul? Was she worried he would be damned if she spared the rod?
She might not have thought so. The inquisition thought it was better to torture someone to death that they could be saved eternally than to let them live a long life and be condemned to hell. Perhaps her thinking was along that line.
I don't think she knew that.
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I'm not sure.
People rationalize their choices after the fact and think that means they made a choice.
Recent studies have shown people make decisions before they are consciously aware of them. Certainly that isn't choice but they report that they did choose.
I'm inclined to think people don't have choice or at least not much.
The church can do as it wishes. If it expects people to obey it, it should grasp reality and accept that people will be people and quit demanding unrealistic things.
I didn't say the church was at fault for some people disobeying it. I said that the church's fault is that it expects humans not to be human.
I have no idea. There isn't enough information in the article.
Perhaps.
Then she should get off on diminished capacity.
A common misconception. And the one that is very hard to overcome when talking to the followers of organized religions. Their books, the ones like the Bible and the Quran, say one things, what is being done by their religious leaders in real life - is quite another, and the two do not connect. Thus the conclustion - there are bad catholics/christians/muslims out there, but the religion itself doesn't teach followers to be bad. People, when will you realize that there is a world of difference between what a religion teaches and how it actually manifests itself? By the way, wasn't it Jesus who said "By their fruit you will recognize them"?
Brainwashed is exactly the word, Cliffy. the ritual of baptism was created by someone who knew what he was doing. It influences the people's thinking, programming them and making them overlook the most obvious things. And it works real well. And it's very hard to break free of it.
That's one way to look at it. However, if one is to use that definition then any law created by any government is raping and pillaging as enforcing social norms is what laws are all about. [/quote]
You have taken a simplistic view of things just to reinforce your own agenda.
hehehe Funny, Vereya. Precisely right, but funny anyway. 
Anyway, I think sometimes that people who want to become parents should be screened by psychologists.
Anyway, I think sometimes that people who want to become parents should be screened by psychologists.
The second common mistake of the followers of the organized religions. "the religion's alright, it's the people whi misinterpret it". Don't you see how ridiculous it sounds? Organized religions claim to bring the ultimate truth to the people. Here's news for you - ultimate truth doesn't need an interpretation. You don't have interpret black to know that it is black, you don't need to interpret white to know that it is white. Where there are different interpretation of one and the same truth, it means that there was no truth to begin with. Just a bunch of confusing directions to keep people in fear and shame.