NWO Utopianism

petros

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So. . .

From goulies and ghosties and long-leggedy beasties
And things that go bump in the night
Good Lord, deliver us!
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

This chick...

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Remind me if how many years she is serving pizza for sex trafficking to ghoulies and ghosties?

There were no clients or co-defendants so that only leaves the ghoulies and ghosties in high places.
 

Motar

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And what utopian vision would this be, and how does one identify a New World Order "enthusiast?"

And precisely what is the "New World Order?"
Your tagline is related to our discussion, TB. What do you think the war in Ukraine is really about? Are there NWO interests there?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Your tagline is related to our discussion, TB. What do you think the war in Ukraine is really about? Are there NWO interests there?
It's really all about Putin wanting to re-build the Soviet Union, and playing on Great Russian bigotry to do so.

Ukraine is valuable to Russia because of petroleum, agriculture, and warm-water seaports.

I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's because you're a conspiracy theorist.
 

Serryah

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It's really all about Putin wanting to re-build the Soviet Union, and playing on Great Russian bigotry to do so.

Ukraine is valuable to Russia because of petroleum, agriculture, and warm-water seaports.

I'm sure you'll disagree, but that's because you're a conspiracy theorist.

And Russian Glory Days. Which ties into rebuild the Soviet Union, as you said.

But also Putin's name. He wants to be remembered in history. Be some big shot.
 

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It's really all about Putin wanting to re-build the Soviet Union, and playing on Great Russian bigotry to do so.

Ukraine is valuable to Russia because of petroleum, agriculture, and warm-water seaports.
Could President Putin's rebuilding of the Soviet Union in Ukraine be a response to the NWO utopianism we're discussing?
 

Motar

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And Russian Glory Days. Which ties into rebuild the Soviet Union, as you said.

But also Putin's name. He wants to be remembered in history. Be some big shot.
Would you consider President Putin's empire building in Ukraine concession to the globalism or rebellion against it?
 

petros

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Could President Putin's rebuilding of the Soviet Union in Ukraine be a response to the NWO utopianism we're discussing?
Yes. He's not rebuilding the Soviet Union, it's personal.

What Putin doesn't realize is Xi is going to take Siberia and Yakutia. He only needs to take two cities. Omsk and Vladivostok.
 
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Motar

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Yes. He's not rebuilding the Soviet Union, it's personal.

What Putin doesn't realize is Xi is going to take Siberia and Yakutia. He only needs to take two cities. Omsk and Vladivostok.
I lived in Volgograd 1995-1996 and have Russian friends inside and out of the country. What is your opinion on bioweaponry development in Ukraine?
 

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Would you consider President Putin's empire building in Ukraine concession to the globalism or rebellion against it?

If there is a NWO, Putin is pissed he's not part of it, sure, and throwing a hissy fit, starting a war with Ukraine is the best way to get him in with the big boys.

Yeah... that'd work... :cautious:
 

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J. R. R. Tolkien relates human story-telling to creation and the image of God in us. He suggests that our created stories proceed from the narrative template within - a template based upon God's grand story of creation and redemption in which we participate.

Are proponents of NWO utopianism attempting to rescript and recast the Divine Drama in their own interests and likeness?
 
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Serryah

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J. R. R. Tolkien relates human story-telling to creation and the image of God in us. He suggests that our created stories proceed from the narrative template within - a template based upon God's grand story of creation and redemption in which we participate.

Are proponents of NWO utopianism attempting to rescript and recast the Divine Drama in their own interests and likeness?

Your God.

Or JRR's God.

Not everyone worships that same God.
 
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Motar

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Your God.

Or JRR's God.

Not everyone worships that same God.
You're right, Serryah. Not everyone ascribes ultimate worth to the same person, place or thing. Why do humans tend to hold a supreme being, destination or object in highest esteem?
 

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Are proponents of NWO utopianism attempting to rescript and recast the Divine Drama in their own interests and likeness?
Has there ever been a period in human history without a utopian dreamer? What propels the dream?