if i trusted doctors, id be a year dead now
so where do you draw the line?
You do what you think works for you.
if i trusted doctors, id be a year dead now
so where do you draw the line?
Agreed.I notice some of the forum simpletons that are in to holistic and naturopathy have been strangely quiet. It one thing to have your own religious views but when they are potentially harmful, it's unethical to force it down your child's throat.
Homeopathy and naturopathy believers are like the people that lop the clitorises off little girls because their religions say it's best. Throw this brain dead twit in jail for an extended period of time and make it clear to the cretins, your silly religious views will not trump child safety
Boy, I am glad I am not your kidHow many children die at the hands of doctors every year? The medical professionals are not gods (like some people seem to think). Doctors have their place but they are not the be all and end all for everything. They can misdiagnose just as easily as this woman did. Arresting her is nothing more than the allopathic and pharmaceutical companies trying to discredit alternative medicine. They don't have all the answers and more and more doctors are moving toward multiple medical disciplines. What they are doing to this poor mother is no less cruel and insensitive as what they are accusing her if. This is just plain stupid.
I have no sorrow for the woman, none whatsoever. How many more of these are out there?Negligence charges laid against Calgary mom who used holistic treatment before son died
Police say son died from what would have been a treatable illness
The Calgary Police Service lead 44-year-old Tamara Lovett, charged in connection with the death of her son, in Calgary, Alta November 22, 2013. On Saturday, March 2, 2013, emergency crews were called to a basement suite in the 900 block of 17 Avenue S.W., for a report of a seven-year-old boy having a seizure. The child was transported to hospital where he was pronounced deceased. Due to the boy’s condition when he arrived at hospital, the Service’s Homicide Unit was called to investigate. Jim Wells/Calgary Sun/QMI Agency
Police say a woman gave her bedridden seven-year-old son holistic treatment before he succumbed to what would have been a treatable illness.
Friday, 44-year-old Tamara Lovett was arrested, later charged with criminal negligence causing death and failing to provide the necessities of life in connection with the death of Ryan Lovett.
It is a legal requirement for a parent or guardian to provide food, shelter, care and medical attention necessary to sustain life and protect children from harm.
But in this case, Staff Sgt. Mike Cavilla said the mother opted for alternative medicine, like herbal remedies, despite numerous friends and family urging her to take the boy to a doctor.
“There was a belief system in homeopathic treatments,” he said.
“There were a couple of friends in that ten days who did urge her to seek medical help ... the mother refused to take the child.
“Under the Criminal Code ... if you do not provide medical attention to a sick child you could be held accountable.”
Lovett called EMS to her basement suite in the 900 block of 17 Ave. S.W. on March 2, 2013, saying her child, Ryan, was having a seizure.
Emergency crews arrived to find the boy in cardiac arrest.
Police allege the Grade 2 student was at home, bedridden for 10 days prior to that with what was later identified as a strep infection.
Strep infections are often treatable with medication such as penicillin.
Although it was not only the single mother who saw him deteriorating, no one contacted authorities.
“I think there is a moral responsibility, if you see a child in medical (or any other distress) to make a phone call to police or child and family services to notify people there may be a problem,” Cavilla said.
Paul Hughes, friends with Lovett for more than 20 years and whose son was friends with Ryan, said the allegations are shocking.
“That kid was so full of life and Tamara was an amazing mom,” he said Friday.
“This woman is not a monster. She was a loving mother.
“She was already in prison in her own mind.”
He said the allegations are upsetting.
“It’s a tough one,” he said.
“Hindsight is 20/20. Oh, man, I just wish we could turn back the clock.”
Cavilla said police found no evidence the child in his seven years had ever had medical attention.
“Speaking to medical professionals, they said if treated this could have been prevented,” Cavilla said, adding he hopes the case serves as warning for others who might deny their children medical care.
“The simple message is, if your child is sick take them to a doctor.”
Ryan, who had been home-schooled by his mother for years, was enrolled in school about two months before his death.
Negligence charges laid against Calgary mom who used holistic treatment before son died | Calgary | News | Calgary Sun
So very sad and tragic. I feel both deep sorrow for this woman but also incredible anger at her too.
Hear! Hear! I hope she gets lifeWhat is just plain stupid is dying from strep throat. This is commonly treated with no lasting ill effects whatsoever. I've had strep throat, my kids have had it.
I'm all for avoiding pills and medical treatment, for utilizing natural remedies, when it makes sense. But having a 7 year old die from something like this is beyond nonsense.
I reported child abuse one. They did nothingI think you have a point here Cliffy doctors do make mistakes and people die as a result but the kid died due to her ignorance and lack of ability to diagnose correctly. I don't know what should be done to her since she was attempting to do the best for her child and due to her lack of ability the child died. No punishment given in a court of law will ever equate to the guilt she will have to endure on a daily basis.
Even doctors are not allowed to treat family and this is why.
yup, any suspicion at all must be reported, better to be wrong than have to live with this...some people are going to struggle with "what if I"....
Armchair doctors are amusing. Almost as amusing as the Hari Krishnas
Why did this take so long to get to court.......?
A Calgary mother convicted in her son's "senseless" death after failing to take the bedridden seven-year-old to a doctor for his treatable strep infection was sentenced to three years in prison Friday.
Tamara Lovett, 48, was found guilty in January of criminal negligence causing the death of her son, Ryan, who died in 2013.
"Our children are vulnerable," said Court of Queen's Bench Justice Kristine Eidsvik. "[Lovett's] actions resulted in the senseless death of an innocent child who needed her protection."
Defence lawyer Alain Hepner had proposed a jail term of one year plus probation, while the Crown argued Lovett should spend four to five years in prison.
"This sentence of three years really pales in comparison to the life sentence she's received already for being responsible for the death of her child," Hepner said.
Eidsvik noted the sentence was also designed to deter other parents from failing their children in the same way. A message prosecutor Jonathan Hak said was made clear.
"If your child is not getting better, you are legally and morally bound to take your child to an actual doctor for actual medical care."
Lovett's sentence was handed down shortly after the judge denied her defence lawyer's Jordan application, which argued Lovett's rights were violated because it took too long for her case to make it through the court system.
"It would not be just to set aside a conviction and issue a stay," said Eidsvik in delivering her decision Friday morning.
Hepner had asked the judge to direct a stay of proceedings under new Supreme Court guidelines that put hard timelines on what is considered unreasonable delay.
'Our children are vulnerable': Judge sentences Calgary mother to 3 years in prison for son's strep death - Calgary - CBC News
And if yo take your kid to a "real doctor" and the kid still dies who goes to jail?