Michael Moore's 'Giving Ways'

[YoungJoonKim]

First off,youngjoon kim ,you picked moore as the hollywood personality you would most like to bed. That is bad,bad, bad no matter gay or not.

Well, he is the one who I admire...but to the extend of bed is er...

Moore has convinced many people to never vote Republican with his lies and America and the world will bear the brunt of his lies.

That may be so, but he does not exclude his attacks on Democrats either.
Remember Hilary Clinton?
He had secret crush on her, politically.
It all changed, as shown in SiCKO.

I wouldn't vote for Republican though..nor is Democrat better than Republican in any sense..
how about Independent

Mikey is sapping an uneducated America to line his pockets. It is sad,but it is the truth.

I think Michael Moore is already rich
He reminds me of Peter Jackson, for directing Lord of the Ring trilogy and that boring King Kong..

How about corporations slapping un-educated Americans to buy and buy and buy?
How about they deceiving Americans to use un-regulated products from China?
How about how about...and it goes on and on.
What is impact of THAT?
Bush killed more than Michael
Corporations deceived more than Michael
Republicans proving they are bad government..always..
Geez...

 

[YoungJoonKim]

I want to come to "terms"
I demand why Moore is a liar on health issue and how this movie SiCKO is wrong about U.S. health care scoring 37th place in WHO health ranking, bearing doing better than Cuba (a country sanctioned by U.S.A.)
I despise attacks on his finance and his appearance, that's wrong.
It doesn't even get close to getting me thinking, "Oh, Michael Moore is bastard."

His personal belief is that his movie to be shared within internet, he is not against that. In fact, he is for it. He simply want people to watch movie, SiCKO.
He has not sued a person who took his movie and shared with others.
So...even if he DOES get profit, does that make him big fat jerk when he, obviously, want us to share his movie for free?

 

[gopher]

Bush is one up on Moore --- he is a ''compassionate conservative'' who loves the wealthy so much that he gives them more corporate welfare than they already have. The war on Iraq isn't enough for him, now he wants another war on Iran!

Who knows? Maybe Bush will invade Canada next!

 

[YoungJoonKim]

Bush doesn't need to do that. The corporations have already invaded Canada.
Its unnecessary.

 

[gopher]

... just wait until the US Army does ... that's when the profit$ will be rolling in for ''compassionate conservative'' Bush and his pals

 

[wallyj]

Sory,YJK. but michael did not block the movie.but the company that distributed the movie did. Michael Moore is a CAPITALIST,the worst kind.He makes you believe he is your friend and then you wake upin the morning and your wallet is missing. He is a *****.

 

[wallyj]

Cheers to all.I could not have said it better,Except that the first asterick was a "W" the third was an "O" and the last was an"E'. Take care.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

Sory,YJK. but michael did not block the movie.but the company that distributed the movie did. Michael Moore is a CAPITALIST,the worst kind.He makes you believe he is your friend and then you wake upin the morning and your wallet is missing. He is a *****.

I wanna know how and why he is worst kind of capitalist
in friendly way

 

[YoungJoonKim]

.. just wait until the US Army does ... that's when the profit$ will be rolling in for ''compassionate conservative'' Bush and his pals

Nah..they can do that anytime they want.
We, Canadians, have no...national army standing on our border, ready to defend our native land of Moose and Goose!

 

[gopher]

``Basic health care is available in the U.S.``


The leading cause of personal bankruptcy in the United States is unpaid medical bills. Half of the uninsured owe money to hospitals, and a third are being pursued by collection agencies.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/08/29/050829fa_fact


And yet, we continue to pay Israel's medical bills for its citizens.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

I will admit that Michael Moore is not the best person in the world.
He lives in luxury, he helps a few and editing his movie like nuts, and...owns stock.
Anything else?

 

[JoeSchmoe]

Moore's thrust of his mockumentaries is equal services, jobs and rights for all - yet he cannot part with any of his own funds....

You have obviously never watched a Moore documentary and don't know about his charitable works.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/r_m/2007/05/18/2007-05-18_much_moore_for_a_foe_in_need.html

Kenefick admitted the $12,000 "was like manna from heaven at that time. ... My business was almost dead, my wife was very, very ill, and I was racking up a few little health problems of my own. That money made it possible for us to begin to turn our lives around."

 

[wallyj]

I will admit that Michael Moore is not the best person in the world.
He lives in luxury, he helps a few and editing his movie like nuts, and...owns stock.
Anything else?

Mikey gave $12,000 anonymously to someone for health care,and then this secret gift was leaked to the press and reported ,when his movie on health care comes out. Forgive me for being cynical,but that sounds an awful lot like a staged event for publicity. The guy is worth over a $100 million,$12,000 is nada,nothing,zilch to him. Why doesn't he spend 50 mil like Gates did? Mikey is supposed to be the friend of the working man,BS. He makes his movies,then disappears until the next one. I call him a ***** because he seduces you with his empty words and lies, and empties your wallet at the same time.

 

[YoungJoonKim]

"because he seduces you with his empty words and lies, and empties your wallet at the same time."

$8 per ticket don't sound too bad.

Why doesn't he spend 50 mil like Gates did?

Well, Bill Gate is corporate CEO, he better make himself look good...
He worth about billions, more much more than Moore.
But its hypocrisy for Moore to worth millions also, we should also heed to that.

"Mikey is supposed to be the friend of the working man,BS"
Yes, he has. He has been trying so HARD to look like one. His movie & him don't reflect one another as a result. Its a sad truth.

However, in the end, he raises questions and I think its healthy for us but not for Moore.

 

[Curiosity]

S_Lone

I'm trying to understand the mentality that is all. Of course, I was born in Canada and take health care for granted. I just find it's amazing to know everybody is looking after everybody by contributing to the national health care. I guess that makes me a socialist...

I think that is a valid question and I agree the government has certain mandates - which it has pledged to accomplish both in Canada and the U.S. and of course many other nations who follow the guidelines of democracy - for the people of the nation. I hardly think health and education matters are socialist thought - they are humanist thought. I was also born in Canada, and have plenty of personal comparisons to make. I make my own choices - perhaps that is what Canadians fail to comprehend. It is a state I prefer - to have individual choice - and medical care is one of those choices.

A well evolving nation ensures all will have education and excellent medical care from cradle to grave.

The U.S. government does take care of its people and story-tellers such as Michael Moore yelling "Fire in the Auditorium" create a hardship for all of us - even those who realize the government is failing in its duty - it's overwhelmed with giving out assistance.... it pulled itself out of the depression only to be engaged in wars in every decade since - and our medical people travel all over the world giving preventive and catastrophic medical care to people in need and all Canadians see is what the foolish Michael Moore types want you to see and know.

The U.S. has many flaws - but they are flaws of giving and were the nation to concentrate primarily on its own people - the world would be screaming at them for being selfish.

It's a delicate balance and one which the nation has not been successful in accomplishing. There is only so much which can be done - Whether Canadians choose to see this or understand this, or use this as a power point - that would be up to Canadians.

The Michael Moore topic wasn't just about Sicko - but apparently that is what Canadians prefer to make an issue of...completely ignoring the fact Moore rarely contributes to the charitable giving system most wealthy people take for granted ....

If only the U.S. was so successful as Canada, taking care of all its own first and having the U.S. make all the mistakes for them to compare with so they don't go down the same road. Sigh...

 

[Curiosity]

Cosmo

Good questions - will return - it's too early to dissect all of your post to me but I would like to respond when I get my day sorted..... There isn't a one-sentence answer ....

I didn't realize when I used the old link that the writer was 'right or left' - I wasn't looking for political issues in this.... I was looking for humanist issues concerning Moore....

The original piece I quoted from was sent to me from a professor who is active in the democratic party in California - and to what extent I have no idea of his liberal tendencies....he was merely comparing the Gates Foundation with Moore's idea of charitable giving. I thought it interesting and didn't think 'political' at all....because to me giving doesn't birth within politics ... pure charity is from the heart not the vote.
Moore's schtick has disappointed many of his original followers ...

 

[Curiosity]

WallyJ

I just wrote Cosmo that there isn't a one-sentence answer but you supplied a very adequate one for me to respond with....

I call him a ***** because he seduces you with his empty words and lies, and empties your wallet at the same time.

 

[Unforgiven]

Mikey gave $12,000 anonymously to someone for health care,and then this secret gift was leaked to the press and reported ,when his movie on health care comes out. Forgive me for being cynical,but that sounds an awful lot like a staged event for publicity. The guy is worth over a $100 million,$12,000 is nada,nothing,zilch to him. Why doesn't he spend 50 mil like Gates did? Mikey is supposed to be the friend of the working man,BS. He makes his movies,then disappears until the next one. I call him a ***** because he seduces you with his empty words and lies, and empties your wallet at the same time.

If so, then as you suggest, Gates should give away 20 billion as it is roughly half of his estimated worth. Not having done that, does that mean that Gates with all the work he and his wife have done, are bad people?

This is as usual, nothing more than a smear against someone who dares pull the carpet back to expose the hidden filth. The problem that is exposed goes neglected and denied while the person who does the exposing, often of those who do prey upon the populous in search of more profits, gets attacked by the nimrods that are preyed upon.

Bleat on oh sheep of Rush and Rove bleat on.

 

[Curiosity]

This topic is not about medical care in the U.S. it is about the lies Michael Moore tells about his own country and because Canada is limited in its access to reality of living in the U.S. - through taxation and all the necessities of living including medical care and schooling and consumerism.... you have absolutely no basis upon which to declare Moore writes fact.

 

[wallyj]

If so, then as you suggest, Gates should give away 20 billion as it is roughly half of his estimated worth. Not having done that, does that mean that Gates with all the work he and his wife have done, are bad people?

This is as usual, nothing more than a smear against someone who dares pull the carpet back to expose the hidden filth. The problem that is exposed goes neglected and denied while the person who does the exposing, often of those who do prey upon the populous in search of more profits, gets attacked by the nimrods that are preyed upon.

Bleat on oh sheep of Rush and Rove bleat on.

I wish Gates would give away 20 Billion. I have some dental bills coming up,not covered by anyone but ME,in Canada. Hey,Mikey,send me 12 thou and I won't criticize you for a week. I am not suggesting Gates is a bad person,not at all. He has done well with his charity.BUT,he is a capitalist,and makes no bones about it. Mikey,on the other hand,pretends to be the everyday joe while rolling his slovenly body in a bed of lucre that he lied to obtain.He pushed the buttons of the lambs and they gave him thier gold. So tell me,enlightened one,who would you rather drink beer with?