Liberal Minority

[Numure]

Who are the NDP, where are they strong, what are their issues, and how many seats have they won? My newspaper article doesn't even register their existence.

Side note: can we get an option for a larger font size here?

The NDP and the Bloc, are the left wing/Socialist parties of Canada. They got close to 30% of the votes, put together. The only real differences between both, is the Bloc prones decentralisation, and the NDP is centraliste. Also, the Bloc is seperatist.

Their support... pretty much accross the country. On the provincial level, they we're in power in the west and in Ontario. They got seats this federal election, in the Atlantic, Ontario and a few in the west.

 

[gnuman]

Kinda sad how the Bloc Quebecois running in Quebec got more seats than the NDP when BQ ran in Quebec.

Liberal and NDP alliance will most likely happen, it has in the past and it most likely will occur now. If that alliance is thrown out then it is down to a vote where Martin will be thrown out like a piece of trash.

Think of it the CPC and BQ will most likely say NO. That is more than what the Liberals and NDP would have if they said YES to a Martin govt. If it was really down to the wire Adrian Clarkson can say who can govern the country since she has the power.

Liberal and NDP alliance has happened in the past, but the veto power of the Bloc and CPC will make bills hard to come by and the only way to get it easier if Layton and Martin team up.

Martin should realize that he thinks he's popular but he's not. Chretien was liked and that's why he had the majority 3 times in a row! Heck the CPC is so bad that Joe Clark was helping a Liberal in a riding.

 

[Andem]

Liberal and NDP alliance has happened in the past, but the veto power of the Bloc and CPC will make bills hard to come by and the only way to get it easier if Layton and Martin team up.

They don't have enough seats to do anything even if they wanted to. Combined, the NDP and Liberals have 154 seats.. 1 shy of having that power.

The Bloc and the Conservatives have 153 seats combined (and 154 if that one former-conservative-now-independent joins up with them).

The Bloc Québecois will probably not be in any position to team up with the cons, they have completely different views.

 

[Numure]

Liberal and NDP alliance has happened in the past, but the veto power of the Bloc and CPC will make bills hard to come by and the only way to get it easier if Layton and Martin team up.

They don't have enough seats to do anything even if they wanted to. Combined, the NDP and Liberals have 154 seats.. 1 shy of having that power.

The Bloc and the Conservatives have 153 seats combined (and 154 if that one former-conservative-now-independent joins up with them).

The Bloc Québecois will probably not be in any position to team up with the cons, they have completely different views.

The only thing the BQ and the Cons have in common, is decentralisation.

 

[American Voice]

So, the NDP are federalists left of the Liberals? Do I have it? Are they embroiled in the scandal that has debased the Liberal Party? Are they clean? Could they be called the conscience of the Liberal Party?

NDP is an acronym for what, precisely?

Maybe Andem knows about this: the Free Democrats, in Germany. At one point, back in the 80's sometime, they were partners in a coalition with the SDP; when neither the SDP nor the CDP polled a clear majority. The FDP leader became the West German foreign minister.

 

[Numure]

lol.. The NDP had nothing to do with the Liberals in the pass 10 years. The liberals had majority goverments for 3 straight terms under Chretien. And yes, the NDP is more to the left on the political compass then the Liberals. They are clean, and no, they cant be called the conscience of the Liberals, because they have nothing to do with them. No affiliation what so ever. Only agreements on certain issues... The Liberals are right wingers on economic issues, and left on social issues. Big difference with the NDP, and something that will pretty much keep them seperate for a very long time.

A United left party in Canada (somewhat like what the Cons did), would be the Bloc and the NDP fusioning together.

 

[American Voice]

And how likely is that, realistically?

I have heard several members here bemoan the fact of the deficit in the Liberal vote owing to the lack of more effective organization by Liberal Party loyalists in Vancouver. Is that true? Are they the swing vote?

 

[Numure]

Possible, I don't know. I don't live in Vancouver.... I think the Greens and NDP got more votes then the Libs in BC though.

 

[peapod]

British Columbians might not care that much about what the rest of canada votes, so I have heard, but they sure do care what happens in their own province. Gordon Campbell will never be re-elected in this province and I would bet my life on that. The man has body guards now.

My friends and I discussed today the fact that conservatives got so many votes here, because its not coming from the people born and raised here. The fact is the province is filling up with people retiring from the prairies and that is where their vote is coming from. I hope that does not mean that ralph kline might retire here.

 

[Numure]

http://www.radio-canada.ca/Medianet/RDI2/RDI200406282300_2.asx

Gille's speach

 

[Reverend Blair]

I'm guessing the Liberals will go issue by issue with support from the NDP and the Bloq in exchange for some support of those parties issues.

I think Liberals will last eighteen months to two years.

 

[Numure]

I'm guessing the Liberals will go issue by issue with support from the NDP and the Bloq in exchange for some support of those parties issues.

I think Liberals will last eighteen months to two years.

That is what the bloc is going to do, and what they said they would do during the campaign.