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Curious Cdn

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When the unemployment rate is 3.7%, the only ones not participating are the people that don't want to participate.
3.7 is still propaganda. It's nowhere near that low if you count the whole population like we do and every other developed country does.

It makes the Americans look AWESOME which doesn't quite square with the Northern third of their country shutting down, rusting, crumbling away. It's only a ninety minute drive from here.
 

pgs

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3.7 is still propaganda. It's nowhere near that low if you count the whole population like we do and every other developed country does.

It makes the Americans look AWESOME which doesn't quite square with the Northern third of their country shutting down, rusting, crumbling away. It's only a ninety minute drive from here.
Are you describing Ontario per chance ?
 

spaminator

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Poll shows little change among voters but bad news for Trudeau
Brian Lilley
Published:
August 21, 2019
Updated:
August 21, 2019 5:00 AM EDT
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau attends a Liberal Party fundraiser in Richmond Hill, Ont., Monday, Aug. 12, 2019. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young
There hasn’t been a major shift in voter support in the wake of an ethics commissioner report SNC-Lavalin, but the latest numbers still don’t look good for Justin Trudeau’s Liberals.
Numbers released exclusively to the Toronto Sun from the DART & Maru/Blue Voice Canada poll show that while Trudeau’s Liberals are holding steady, the number of people thinking they deserve to be re-elected remains surprisingly low.
Nationally, the Conservatives sit at 39%, up two points from the last poll in July but that bump is primarily due to an increase in support in places like Alberta where the party is expected to sweep. The Liberals hold steady at 32% support, buoyed by very strong numbers in Atlantic Canada and the NDP is at 15% nationally.
The poll also showed the number of people saying they were undecided dropped to 10% down from 22% in the last poll.
Perhaps the figure the Liberals dread the most is on the question of whether the government deserves to be re-elected.
Asked whether they agreed with the statement that, “the Liberals under Justin Trudeau have done a good job and deserve to be re-elected,” just 26% said yes.
“It goes to the momentum to get people out,” pollster John Wright said. “There’s no momentum.”
“You throw governments out, you don’t vote new ones in and right now the momentum to throw this government out is massive.”
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That is why Wright says the Liberals will continue to run a negative campaign to demonize Conservatives and try to get Liberal voters to bite their tongues and get up off the couch to cast a ballot.
As for the SNC-Lavalin scandal, Wright doesn’t expect any major movement as a result of the issue resurfacing.
Scheer and the Conservatives hold the lead nationally among both men and women and voters under the age of 35. The Liberals hold a slight lead among voters under the age of 35.
The poll — accurate within 2.9% — was conducted with an online panel of 1,512 adult Canadians on Aug. 16-17.
http://torontosun.com/news/national/poll-shows-little-change-among-voters-but-bad-news-for-trudeau
 

spaminator

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Liberals unhurt, Tories not helped by scathing SNC-Lavalin report: Poll
Canadian Press
Published:
August 21, 2019
Updated:
August 21, 2019 5:08 PM EDT
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau delivers remarks at the nomination meeting for Liberal candidate Elisabeth Briere in Montreal on Tuesday, August 20, 2019. A new poll suggests a scathing ethics report on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair hasn't so far hurt the Liberals' chances of re-election this fall -- and it hasn't helped the Conservatives.Paul Chiasson / THE CANADIAN PRESS
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests a scathing ethics report on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s handling of the SNC-Lavalin affair hasn’t so far hurt the Liberals’ chances of re-election this fall — and it hasn’t helped the Conservatives.
Indeed, the Leger poll suggests the two parties were locked in a dead heat, with the support of 33 per cent of voters, as they jockey for position at the starting gate for the Oct. 21 vote.
Liberal support was unchanged from last month, despite last week’s damning report from federal ethics commissioner Mario Dion, who concluded that Trudeau violated the Conflict of Interest Act by pressuring his former attorney general to halt a criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin.
Conservative support was down three percentage points from last month, despite the party’s best efforts to re-ignite public outrage over the SNC affair, which propelled the Tories into a commanding 13-point lead over the Grits at the height of the controversy last April.
The poll put support for the Green party at 13 per cent, up one point and ahead of the NDP at 11 per cent. Maxime Bernier’s fledgling People’s Party of Canada stood at four per cent.
The online survey of 1,535 eligible voters was conducted Aug. 16-19 for The Canadian Press and weighted to reflect the makeup of Canada’s population. It cannot be assigned a margin of error because internet-based polls are not considered random samples.
Leger executive vice-president Christian Bourque said the latest results suggest voters have largely put the SNC-Lavalin affair behind them and moved on to issues that affect them more directly — at least for now.
The two main parties are back in a “neck-and-neck race,” which is where things stood in February before the SNC controversy rocked the Liberal government, costing Trudeau two cabinet ministers, his most trusted aide and the country’s top public servant.
“I think that those who changed their mind on the PM and turned their backs on him did that in the spring already,” Bourque said in an interview.
But he said other Canadians appear to be fatigued with the issue and may be thinking “regardless of what I think of the behaviour of the PM, at the end of the day how does this change my life and that of my children, which is nil.”
Still, Bourque warned that “doesn’t mean that it won’t come back to haunt the prime minister” during the campaign, particularly should the RCMP decide to investigate, as Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer has repeatedly pressed the Mounties to do.
The Conservatives and New Democrats tried to revive the controversy at a meeting Wednesday of the House of Commons ethics committee, where they moved to invite Dion, Trudeau and others to testify about the ethics report.
However, the Liberals used their majority on the committee to block the bid to magnify the report just a couple of weeks before Trudeau officially fires the starting gun for the election.
The poll put the Liberals back into a solid lead in the Atlantic provinces, Quebec, Ontario and British Columbia. The Conservatives enjoyed a commanding lead in Alberta and Manitoba/Saskatchewan, with 55 per cent support in both regions.
The Liberals had the advantage in the two most populous provinces, where more than half of the country’s 338 seats will be up for grabs.
In Ontario, home to more than one-third of the seats, the Conservatives appear to be suffering a “spillover effect” from the unpopularity of Doug Ford’s provincial Progressive Conservative government, Bourque said. The Liberals enjoyed the support of 38 per cent of Ontarians, compared to the Conservatives’ 30 per cent, the Green’s 14 per cent, the NDP’s 13 per cent and the People’s party’s three per cent.
In Quebec, home to SNC-Lavalin, the Liberals stood at 34 per cent, compared to the Tories’ 27, the Bloc Quebecois’ 18, the Greens’ nine, the NDP’s eight and the People’s party’s four per cent.
Dion concluded that Trudeau broke ethics law by improperly pressuring former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould to intervene to stop the criminal prosecution of SNC-Lavalin on corruption charges related to contracts in Libya.
Trudeau has acknowledged that he wanted Wilson-Raybould to reconsider her refusal to overturn a decision by the director of public prosecutions, who decided last fall not to invite the Montreal-based engineering and construction giant to negotiate a remediation agreement. Such an agreement would have allowed the company to avoid the risk of a criminal conviction, which would result in it being barred from federal contracts for 10 years.
While he has taken full responsibility for the mistakes that were made, Trudeau has refused to apologize. He has insisted that he was only standing up for the interests of SNC-Lavalin’s 9,000 employees, pensioners and suppliers, who stood to be negatively affected by the potentially crippling cost of a conviction.
Scheer maintains Dion’s report suggests the prime minister’s conduct went beyond a violation of ethics law and warrants a criminal investigation into possible obstruction of justice.
Wilson-Raybould resigned from cabinet over the affair in late February, followed shortly by cabinet ally Jane Philpott. Both women were subsequently booted out of the Liberal caucus and are running for re-election as Independent candidates.
http://torontosun.com/news/national...ot-helped-by-scathing-snc-lavalin-report-poll
 
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Ron in Regina

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From: http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kel...the-talk-but-hes-failed-miserably-in-the-walk

All politicians make promises they can’t, won’t or never intended to keep. In that the Trudeau Liberals are no different to any government before them. But they do hold a special place for loudly declaiming fundamental principles they can’t, won’t or have no intention of observing. This week alone we have had two glaring examples.

During a 2015 leaders’ debate, Justin Trudeau directed one of his patented moralisms at then-prime minister Stephen Harper.

A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. And you devalue the citizenship of every Canadian in this place and in this country when you break down and make it conditional for anyone,” he said in moral outrage at Tory treatment of accused terrorists.

Then along came Jack Letts, “Jihadi Jack,” relieved of his British citizenship in a last-minute move by the departing U.K. prime minister Theresa May, leaving Canada as his only potential refuge. So of course, Trudeau moved quickly to ensure Letts got all the rights, protections and assistance due a Canadian citizen abroad, right?



Not even close. Despite several attempts to extract a coherent position from the prime minister, Trudeau hemmed, hawed, dodged and weaved, resolutely refusing to give a straight answer. While Andrew Scheer made clear he would “not lift a finger” to let Letts into Canada, Trudeau couldn’t explain why this Canadian isn’t as Canadian as other Canadians, or offer anything close to a cogent explanation of how the government plans to handle the situation.

While still struggling with that problem, Trudeau ran up against another. When he was just an opposition leader, Trudeau professed shock at the Harper regime’s tight-fisted hold on public information, and swore his government would ensure a new, open and accommodating approach. Members of Parliament would be freed from their shackles to express views and examine issues. Government activities would default to transparency. “A Liberal government will restore Parliament as a place where accountable people, with real mandates, do serious work on behalf of Canadians,” he proclaimed.

Unless, it turns out, that serious work might possibly embarrass the governmentespecially in the weeks leading to an election in which the Liberals are struggling to hang onto their ground. So this week obedient Liberals blocked efforts by the House of Commons ethics committee to question Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion. The commissioner released a stinging report last week decrying Trudeau’s treatment of former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould and his assiduous efforts to prevent SNC-Lavalin from facing corruption charges. In his report, Dion complained of being denied access to important additional information, and Trudeau’s refusal to waive cabinet confidentiality so witnesses could share all they knew.

Liberals on the ethics committee ensured fellow MPs would have no better luck searching for answers. It was the same ploy they used to prevent the justice committee from hearing additional testimony in March, when the Prime Minister’s Office desperately wanted to halt the flood of damning revelations related to the SNC affair.

It’s been that way throughout the Trudeau Liberals’ four years in office, during which Trudeau has apologized far and wide for actions taken by other people and other governments, while resolutely refusing to accept blame for errors of his own. Trudeau’s response to Dion’s findings, grudgingly taking responsibility “even though I disagree with some of his conclusions” could go down in the annals of ambiguity with the late, great William Lyon Mackenzie King’s famed non-policy for World War Two recruitments: “Not necessarily conscription, but conscription if necessary.




That’s the problem with putting yourself forward as a practitioner of superior moral and ethical standards. “Politics and partisanship have never mattered more,” Trudeau complained of the Harper regime. “After promising reform, the Conservatives have delivered the most centralized, partisan, self-serving government in Canadian history.”

Until now, that is. Trudeau clearly studied Harper’s methods, and adopted many as his own. Departing Liberal MPs complain of being shut out of decision-making, sidelined by the tight squadron of unelected apparatchiks around Trudeau, expected to spend question period parroting pre-written statements while policy is devised and legislation dictated from within the PMO. Trudeau is a distant figure: if more in touch with his cabinet and caucus he wouldn’t have been caught so unprepared for Wilson-Raybould’s response to being demoted over an affair that started when the Liberals obligingly pushed through legislation designed specifically for SNC-Lavalin, using an omnibus bill to hide its presence despite having denounced their use by previous governments.

I wouldn’t use them, period,” he said of omnibus bills before becoming prime minister, insisting legislation must be “thematically and substantively linked in all their different pieces” to be kosher. That principle, too, disappeared once he was in office. How SNC’s need to be saved from a court date was “thematically and substantively linked” to a federal budget bill remains a poser.

Trudeau’s difficulty derives from his love of grandstanding, his appetite for performing, his need to strike the dramatic pose. It caught the public imagination at the time, but has worn thin as the deeds fail to match the words. A critical concern for Liberals as October’s election draws near is Trudeau’s declining popularity among women, who can’t have failed to notice the gap between his self-declared feminist credentials and his shabby treatment of Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, two leading women in his cabinet who quit in response to his actions.



It will be difficult, if not impossible, for Trudeau to get back that aura of righteousness and rectitude, having provided so much evidence to the contrary. Relentless virtue-signalling tends to lose its impact when the signals so often prove no more than words.
 

pgs

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From: http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kel...the-talk-but-hes-failed-miserably-in-the-walk

All politicians make promises they can’t, won’t or never intended to keep. In that the Trudeau Liberals are no different to any government before them. But they do hold a special place for loudly declaiming fundamental principles they can’t, won’t or have no intention of observing. This week alone we have had two glaring examples.

During a 2015 leaders’ debate, Justin Trudeau directed one of his patented moralisms at then-prime minister Stephen Harper.

A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. And you devalue the citizenship of every Canadian in this place and in this country when you break down and make it conditional for anyone,” he said in moral outrage at Tory treatment of accused terrorists.

Then along came Jack Letts, “Jihadi Jack,” relieved of his British citizenship in a last-minute move by the departing U.K. prime minister Theresa May, leaving Canada as his only potential refuge. So of course, Trudeau moved quickly to ensure Letts got all the rights, protections and assistance due a Canadian citizen abroad, right?



Not even close. Despite several attempts to extract a coherent position from the prime minister, Trudeau hemmed, hawed, dodged and weaved, resolutely refusing to give a straight answer. While Andrew Scheer made clear he would “not lift a finger” to let Letts into Canada, Trudeau couldn’t explain why this Canadian isn’t as Canadian as other Canadians, or offer anything close to a cogent explanation of how the government plans to handle the situation.

While still struggling with that problem, Trudeau ran up against another. When he was just an opposition leader, Trudeau professed shock at the Harper regime’s tight-fisted hold on public information, and swore his government would ensure a new, open and accommodating approach. Members of Parliament would be freed from their shackles to express views and examine issues. Government activities would default to transparency. “A Liberal government will restore Parliament as a place where accountable people, with real mandates, do serious work on behalf of Canadians,” he proclaimed.

Unless, it turns out, that serious work might possibly embarrass the governmentespecially in the weeks leading to an election in which the Liberals are struggling to hang onto their ground. So this week obedient Liberals blocked efforts by the House of Commons ethics committee to question Ethics Commissioner Mario Dion. The commissioner released a stinging report last week decrying Trudeau’s treatment of former attorney general Jody Wilson-Raybould and his assiduous efforts to prevent SNC-Lavalin from facing corruption charges. In his report, Dion complained of being denied access to important additional information, and Trudeau’s refusal to waive cabinet confidentiality so witnesses could share all they knew.

Liberals on the ethics committee ensured fellow MPs would have no better luck searching for answers. It was the same ploy they used to prevent the justice committee from hearing additional testimony in March, when the Prime Minister’s Office desperately wanted to halt the flood of damning revelations related to the SNC affair.

It’s been that way throughout the Trudeau Liberals’ four years in office, during which Trudeau has apologized far and wide for actions taken by other people and other governments, while resolutely refusing to accept blame for errors of his own. Trudeau’s response to Dion’s findings, grudgingly taking responsibility “even though I disagree with some of his conclusions” could go down in the annals of ambiguity with the late, great William Lyon Mackenzie King’s famed non-policy for World War Two recruitments: “Not necessarily conscription, but conscription if necessary.




That’s the problem with putting yourself forward as a practitioner of superior moral and ethical standards. “Politics and partisanship have never mattered more,” Trudeau complained of the Harper regime. “After promising reform, the Conservatives have delivered the most centralized, partisan, self-serving government in Canadian history.”

Until now, that is. Trudeau clearly studied Harper’s methods, and adopted many as his own. Departing Liberal MPs complain of being shut out of decision-making, sidelined by the tight squadron of unelected apparatchiks around Trudeau, expected to spend question period parroting pre-written statements while policy is devised and legislation dictated from within the PMO. Trudeau is a distant figure: if more in touch with his cabinet and caucus he wouldn’t have been caught so unprepared for Wilson-Raybould’s response to being demoted over an affair that started when the Liberals obligingly pushed through legislation designed specifically for SNC-Lavalin, using an omnibus bill to hide its presence despite having denounced their use by previous governments.

I wouldn’t use them, period,” he said of omnibus bills before becoming prime minister, insisting legislation must be “thematically and substantively linked in all their different pieces” to be kosher. That principle, too, disappeared once he was in office. How SNC’s need to be saved from a court date was “thematically and substantively linked” to a federal budget bill remains a poser.

Trudeau’s difficulty derives from his love of grandstanding, his appetite for performing, his need to strike the dramatic pose. It caught the public imagination at the time, but has worn thin as the deeds fail to match the words. A critical concern for Liberals as October’s election draws near is Trudeau’s declining popularity among women, who can’t have failed to notice the gap between his self-declared feminist credentials and his shabby treatment of Wilson-Raybould and Jane Philpott, two leading women in his cabinet who quit in response to his actions.



It will be difficult, if not impossible, for Trudeau to get back that aura of righteousness and rectitude, having provided so much evidence to the contrary. Relentless virtue-signalling tends to lose its impact when the signals so often prove no more than words.
All fluff , no stuff .
 

Hoid

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wait a minute.

Alberta doesn't have an energy east pipeline because of troc
 

Hoid

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it has been conveniently forgotten by all concerned.

let's see Mr Kenney and Mr Trudeau push a pipeline through Quebec
 

spilledthebeer

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Not yet. We don't have rust belt conditions, here.

Maybe some day.

Looking forward to that, eh pigs?




Oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Poor stupid Comrade Curious has missed the economic news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Comrade is UNAWARE that MOST OF Ontari-owe............................................


OUTSIDE of Toronto and Ottawa......................................


have FAILED to recover after the 2008 meltdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Much of Ontari-owe is just marking time economically!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And aint it ODD...........................................


that the two Ontari-owe cities that ARE DOING WELL........................................


ALSO HAVE THE LARGEST SUPPLIES............................................


of over paid civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Huge deficits and endless debt are GRAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you are a HOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But such insane debt is a KILLER for everybody else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The lunatics at Toronto Silly Hall keep whining that maybe Toronto................................


should become a separate province!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That would be a BIG LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



If Toronto became independent from Ontari-owe....................................


then HOW could Toronto keep claiming......................................


TEN TIMES MORE provincial transfer payments from Queens Park?????????????????????????


If Toronto separated from Ontari-owe................................................


then WHO would be left for Queens Park LIE-berals..............................


TO BRIBE with Ontari-owe GRAVY????????????????????????????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!