Japan - US- West headed for a military confrontation - dispute in the South China Sea
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We bought China. Get into that frame of mind and it all makes sense.
Can I have your honest opinion? What do you figure the true reasoning is for claiming the island?
Which Island- and I will try but it may take some time- On vacation.
But tell me why the Chinese are bullying their way into ownership of the South China Sea. Ignoring attempts at negotiations. Look at their claims on the Spratly's and see how close they come to other countries.
And yes you are correct about owning. Owe a million and the banks own you Owe trillions and you own them. The Chinese have increased their long term - multi year - holding of US Treasuries at low rates in the past few years.
Short term debt held by China has been lowered.
Until recently they haven't had the physical ability to stand behind their claims or perhaps Japan is upto to their ying yangs in debt with China and have defaulted and now China wants payment in kind rather than cash.
True they are flexing - True they are intimidating other countries on the Spratly dispute - changing from a joint discussion with all involved to a one on one.
The Chines Military strategy is one of denial- where the costs become to high for the US. Main reason for all the missiles between China and Taiwan. After the 7th Fleet sailed thru in 95-96 the Chinese lost immense face.
And face is important.
Loosing the Nationalistic mobs can bite the hand that led them.
BBC News - Q&A: China-Japan islands row
Emerging maritime rivalry in The South China Sea: Territorial disputes, sea-lane security, and the pursuit of power
China Takes Aim at U.S. Naval Might - WSJ.com
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WE? So you are one of the banker gang and shipped your towns textile manufacturies to mainland China twenty-five years ago and only now do you realize the mistake. Why should we trust you to rebuild Canadas manufacturing capacity? And what would you draw a line in the sand with, J35s, nuclear subs, an actual stick? Time for a nap grampy, we'll both be dust before that even begins to happen, first our lands suffer poverty disease war and decade after decade of ignorance. That's the global economy. Look it up.
Cash is a thing of the past as we speak. You got to have raw materials even if someone else thinks they own them. The Pacific would belong to China if Japan had an accident. Pakistan yesterday gave China that deep water port, they want super clean seaways homeward bound.
China’s Return to Port Near Persian Gulf Sets Off Regional Alarm Bells
The more things change eh.
They tell their people that we hate them because of their family values and manufacturing capacity.
Yes I am aware of it. Huge deposits have yet to be found.
Not directed to you- Some may think that I am in favor of hostilities with |China. They would be wrong.
You have a China rising and they will flex their muscles - many say that China is not an expansionist culture. I would disagree.
They have long memories and plan well ahead, decades or longer if required. A case in point is Eastern Russia where they lost vast tracts of land. Filled with resources that they need.
China Looms Over Russian Far East - The Diplomat
It's found the same way as miinerals are found by using cores from the sediment and the same kg/t input/output ratios. They hit the jackpot.
It also breaks the link in chain the of islands which can be linked with NG lines.
Japan closed it's nukes down and now are desperate of NG turbine electricty
Hypothetic Readings of the Phrase
The less-frightening hypothesis is that the «wartime» reference could be an ordinary slip of the tongue (2): the background of the Tokyo meeting – the escalating conflict between China and Japan over the Senkaku (Diaoyu) Islands – could indeed prompt Lagarde to inadvertently draw wartime parallels. Protesting against the Japanese attempt to «nationilize» three of the five islands, Beijing minimized its representation at the meeting held in Tokyo, so that envoys of many of the Chinese state-run banks were absent from the forum. China – the government and the nation - are currently seizing every opportunity to put Japan under economic pressure: Chinese firms serially opt out of partnerships with Japanese peers, sales of Japanese products on the Chinese market are shrinking, and the popularity of staples like Japanese cars in China is dwindling. At the moment, a huge question mark hangs over the project to set up a Chinese-Japanese-South Korean free trade zone, an arrangement towards which the tree countries have been inching elaborately for years. The Chinese banking sector's boycott of the IMF-World Bank meeting evidently shocked the international financial establishment as a completely unprecedented measure. http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...ip-tongue-carefully-planned-announcement.htmlChina has a domestic market and manufacturing capacity, let the goods times roll.