It’s time Canada considers leaving the UN, Tory MP says

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OTTAWA — A Conservative backbencher is demanding Canada reconsider its membership in the United Nations after the world body criticized the government for its treatment of alleged war criminals and changes to the refugee system.

Ontario MP Larry Miller said he is also upset the UN deployed a special food rapporteur to Canada last month instead of to a developing country.

“The United Nations is an organization that was designed to work collectively to solve the major problems facing the world,” Mr. Miller said in a statement. “If this is the type of action that the UN will be taking then I think that it is high time that we review our participation in the United Nations.”

Mr. Miller said he wrote to Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird about the issue.

The UN Committee on Torture, which reviews the records of all countries on a rotating basis, released a report on Canada last week.
It contained concerns about the Conservative government’s policy of arresting and deporting alleged war criminals instead of seeing them brought to justice. It was also critical of the government’s refusal to assist Omar Khadr and asked it to reconsider controversial changes to the refugee system.

While the review was routine, the Conservative government argued the UN should be focused on the countless, more egregious human rights violations occurring in other parts of the globe.

UN special rapporteur on food Olivier De Schutter, meanwhile, concluded at the end of an 11-day tour of Canada last month the country was in violation of its international obligations, given how many families are unable meet their daily food needs.

He also said people shouldn’t be so self-righteous about how great Canada is considering the pervasiveness of hunger and poverty, especially among aboriginals, amid so much wealth.

Senior Cabinet ministers shot back, telling him to devote his time to famine-stricken countries.

Speaking to reporters on Parliament Hill later Wednesday, Mr. Miller also took issue with a UN tourism agency’s special recognition of Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe — though he insisted he isn’t necessarily asking for Canada to leave the world body.

“The message should be that Canada should review its participation. That’s all I’ve said,” said the veteran MP, who stumbled into controversy in February after comparing the long-gun registry to Hitler and the Nazis.

Canada is a founding member of the world body and has contributed millions of dollars to supporting the organization and its work as well as thousands of military personnel to UN-mandated missions around the world.

But the Conservatives also view the organization with wariness, seeing it as giving dictators a soapbox and lending legitimacy to authoritarian regimes.

Mr. Baird voiced displeasure in recent weeks over the Security Council’s failure to condemn the violence in Syria.

In the House of Commons on Wednesday, Government House leader Peter Van Loan was more measured, saying UN-sanctioned missions in Afghanistan and Libya had allowed Canada to advance democracy, freedom and the rule of law.

Liberal foreign affairs critic Dominic LeBlanc described Mr. Miller’s comments as ignorant.

“We live in an interconnected world where we can only protect Canada’s interests by playing a positive role internationally,” Mr. LeBlanc said. “We cannot isolate ourselves as the Conservatives seem to believe. Canadians are best served by a policy of constructive engagement.”

Only two states have ever left the UN: Syria between 1958 and 1961, when it shared a seat with Egypt, and Indonesia between January 1965 and September 1966, at which point it was involved in a feud with Malaysia.


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If UN resolutions don't matter to Canada, then yes, Im all for Canada withdrawing its membership to the UN. After all, any Canadian who cares would always be free to join a local UN association (privately funded of course).

Then I would also say though that Canada ought to withdraw its membership to NATO, NORAD, etc. too.
 

BaalsTears

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The UN can't adapt to changed circumstances in the world. As a result it will become progressively less relevant. In this sense it doesn't matter whether Canada remains a member of the UN.
 

cheezy

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i'm surprised it's even a topic of discussion. what good is the u.n.? it's a collection of human rights violators pointing the finger at everyone else.

where were they when yugoslavia was doing their "ethnic cleansing"?
how about their inaction in rwanda? unless you want to mention the sexual exploitation they engaged in, only adressing it long after the fact.
where was the u.n. during the invasion of afghanistan after 9/11?
how about saddam hussein violating 17 human rights violations? where was the u.n?
what about iran and syria funding hamas? where is the u.n?
where was the u.n. during the entire career of moammar gadhafi?

how about this? here is a partial list of the un council on human rights, as listed on their website. i've listed only the most ridiculous members:
Angola
China
Congo
Cuba
Libya
Qatar
Uganda

how long has it been since they did ANYTHING significantly useful?
 

Cabbagesandking

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The United Nations has been invaluable and highly successful for sixty years now. Here is one link to some general works of the organisation.

60 Ways the United Nations Makes a Difference

Where and when it fails is entirely the fault of certain powerful members.

Ruanda was not a failure of the UN. It was a deliberate undermining of the operation by a couple of major powers. Read 'Shake Hands with the Devil' for the inside story of that.

Then, there is israel. Last time I looked, the USA had vetoed more than fifty resolutions about that problem.

There are countries like the US, China and Russia that prevent the UN from doing all that it could. Canada has now joined that group and, because of that, suffered the recent humiliation of beng refused the seat on the Security Council that should have been a slam dunk.

Any member of the Canadian Parliament who makes the statements this twerp has done should be drummed out of our legislature. It is incompetence and ignorance though it suits Harper's purpose.
 

BruSan

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I didn't know that bombing trucks tanks and troops was included in those no-fly things.

Yeah; but all those munitions approaching their expiry date were just sitting around..........going to waste.........!

Time is now to take a stand and either, as a senior founding member still with some modicum of respect, demand a review of the U.N.'s charter and mandate with a view to getting rid of the contradictions within or get out of the failed fiasco it's become.

Staying in involves playing the politics game which is a sure way to become just another shameless contributor to the problem of the U.N. being one more org. diluting morality and integrity to embrace chicanery while countries in need flounder down the path of starvation and war.